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sonic370 05-20-2010 05:53 PM

Comparison the z to a vette
 
Just a general comment about the Z. Had my 09 base with the sports package
detailed today love the 19's! Anyway they were also doing a 08 vette along side
my car and everyone was commenting about the Z and how they liked the new body style and all the improvements. Long story short for style and bang for your buck 15 to 20 grand less the Z wins hands down. Sorry didn't to brag!:driving::driving:

CBRich 05-21-2010 06:17 AM

Both of these cars are hard to beat for the money, they're just in different price classes.

rj45 05-21-2010 06:41 AM

Having owned a Corvette, and now the Z, the Z is tighter and has better fit-and-finish. It also has nicer steering...better weighted with more feel. Seats are better, too. Suspension feels more sophisticated.

The Corvette's V8, however, is the better motor, IMO...smooth, powerful, sonorous and even offers decent mileage (nearly 30 mpg highway). Also, I preferred the Corvette's clutch...the Z's is just too light and lacks feel.

They're both nice cars. I think the C7, whenever it debuts, will be a heck of a car. The Corvette only needs a few tweaks to be truly great.

Zsteve 05-21-2010 06:41 AM

You can get a vette for 42K right now as they are offering some big incentives so that probably puts it in the best bang for the buck right now. If that deal was up when I was looking at my Z it may have changed things. Both are great cars and I always wanted a Z and a vette, just cant afford to get both at the same time.

SiXK 05-21-2010 09:32 AM

That corvette bodystyle is old and tired. Probably seems older than it is because you see so many of them. I swear, somewhere in Orlando they were giving away yellow corvettes because there are 12,987,654,987+ of them in this city.

kenchan 05-21-2010 10:48 AM

i like the vette's stying. i like the 370Z's styling. they are different cars so cant really compare the two, but both share a common improvement in appearance vs its previous gen cars... imo

nuTinmuch 05-21-2010 11:52 AM

Both have good lines and both can hold their lines. ;)

wishihadnav 05-21-2010 12:14 PM

test drove a Z06 last year n that thing was quick!!..haha

HT Rambler 05-21-2010 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 545742)
You can get a vette for 42K right now as they are offering some big incentives so that probably puts it in the best bang for the buck right now. If that deal was up when I was looking at my Z it may have changed things. Both are great cars and I always wanted a Z and a vette, just cant afford to get both at the same time.

What dealer has these prices ? I two looked at my dream car before i purchased the z ! Had a bunch of advertized prices even higher than 42 k around 50 to 52k , but when you inquired about them there where none to be found. Still looking to b vette especially if the price is in 42k range ????

Z33knight 05-21-2010 01:56 PM

Putting the Vette performance aside, would someone please redesign that old style wedge? It's basically been the same shape and styled car since the 80's. Tradition is one thing, but something totally new could work. It's not "ugly" in my opinion, but I just look at it and think old and "look at me, I own a Vette" calling card. Plus as said earlier, this car is every f'nwhere. Never been a fan of a car you park and see 3 or more in eyes view.

I think the 370Z was my first sports car I was all around impressed with.(Sides a MKIV Supra 2JZ with a fat T51R :) Three distinct reasons that all must sum up to an all around complete package. Performance vs exterior styling vs interior styling. Long have I loved the exterior of a car just to find POOR interior design. This was always a deal breaker for me. The Gallardo, the Viper GTS, the Vette. Poor interior design. Yes, some more function than for style, but for that price....

I'm a prior 350 owner and that was the only thing that killed that car for me. The interior was better than most, but once you saw those spy shots of the 370Z interior back in 08..... the glitter in my eyes died. I had to have one.

and now I do :D

Zsteve 05-21-2010 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HT Rambler (Post 546005)
What dealer has these prices ? I two looked at my dream car before i purchased the z ! Had a bunch of advertized prices even higher than 42 k around 50 to 52k , but when you inquired about them there where none to be found. Still looking to b vette especially if the price is in 42k range ????

I bank with USAA and they offer a car buying service and it was that price thru them. But the incentive was 3000 off buy the car manufacturer.

area3z 05-21-2010 02:23 PM

i just hate the corvettes cheap interior and overuse of plastic

mick 05-21-2010 02:57 PM

i don't want to be next to a corvette at the stop lights :(

Modshack 05-21-2010 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 545889)
i like the vette's stying. i like the 370Z's styling. they are different cars so cant really compare the two, but both share a common improvement in appearance vs its previous gen cars... imo

Quote:

Originally Posted by HT Rambler (Post 546005)
What dealer has these prices ? I two looked at my dream car before i purchased the z ! Had a bunch of advertized prices even higher than 42 k around 50 to 52k , but when you inquired about them there where none to be found. Still looking to b vette especially if the price is in 42k range ????

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You can find Vettes all day long at invoice or below and $42K is certainly doable if you go light on option packages.. Check the corvette forum for participating dealers. bought my '08 for invoice at MacMulkins in New Hampshire (great dealer). they are very different cars. I don't miss the Vette!

http://images50.fotki.com/v1513/phot...MG_1466-vi.jpg

nuTinmuch 05-21-2010 04:09 PM

Kerbeck Corvette | Corvettes for Sale | #1 Largest Corvette Dealer!

Pretty much if you want to buy a Vette, you go to Kerbeck.

HT Rambler 05-22-2010 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by nuTinmuch (Post 546258)
Kerbeck Corvette | Corvettes for Sale | #1 Largest Corvette Dealer!

Pretty much if you want to buy a Vette, you go to Kerbeck.

I'v seen those deals everywhere , do me a favor since I'm in texas. go there intending to buy it and see what the real price is. I'll garantee you you cant get a new vette for 42k anywhere no matter what options. Been there done that. The only thing that was a deal breaker for me was it has to be auto everything else was neg. nobody has them.

nuTinmuch 05-23-2010 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by HT Rambler (Post 547007)
I'v seen those deals everywhere , do me a favor since I'm in texas. go there intending to buy it and see what the real price is. I'll garantee you you cant get a new vette for 42k anywhere no matter what options. Been there done that. The only thing that was a deal breaker for me was it has to be auto everything else was neg. nobody has them.

Yes, yes you can.

Go around to smokinvette or anywhere Kerbeck is mentioned -- you will see people getting insane deals. They make money via volume. They're huge.

autopc25 05-23-2010 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 546208)
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You can find Vettes all day long at invoice or below and $42K is certainly doable if you go light on option packages.. Check the corvette forum for participating dealers. bought my '08 for invoice at MacMulkins in New Hampshire (great dealer). they are very different cars. I don't miss the Vette!

http://images50.fotki.com/v1513/phot...MG_1466-vi.jpg

The C6 is a exceptional car for the price and it gets better each year. My 08 has much better steering feel and is much more confidence inspiring then my 07 was, overall the 08 is a much better car. The C6 is a excellent street and occasional track day car. I never had any issues with engine over heating or out running the brakes on track days. Lousy seats are my only real gripe with the C6. Road feel could be better also but it is hard to complain for the price of admission.

The Z seems to be high on the fun to value ratio also. I agree the C6 and 370Z are very different cars. Many cars are as fun to drive but in very different ways. Having owned both what do you like and dislike about each? How would you compare the steering feel and balance? Which would you say is more confidence inspiring? I only had a brief test drive recently in a base Z and it was good enough for me to consider one! I assume the C6 brakes are better then the non-sport pads of the Z from Car and Drivers experience? How is the over heating issue for the Z?

It would be great to hear back from someone who actually owns both.

Thanks!

autopc25 05-23-2010 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by HT Rambler (Post 547007)
I'v seen those deals everywhere , do me a favor since I'm in texas. go there intending to buy it and see what the real price is. I'll garantee you you cant get a new vette for 42k anywhere no matter what options. Been there done that. The only thing that was a deal breaker for me was it has to be auto everything else was neg. nobody has them.

Sure you can and you don't even have to leave your living room. Call EVS in WI and ask for Erik the owner. It's been a while but I bet he will sell you a C6 for very close to $42K. He will even deliver it to your door for a few bucks more if you want. He makes it super easy, as easy as ordering a pizza! I ordered 2 C6s this way. Great cars and great dealer!

buddahson 05-23-2010 12:29 PM

My only problem with Vette's are all the old guys that drive them. People would think you were driving your dads car assuming you are under 35. I'd take a ZR1 in heartbeat though. That car is mean.

Zsteve 05-23-2010 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by buddahson (Post 547666)
My only problem with Vette's are all the old guys that drive them. People would think you were driving your dads car assuming you are under 35. I'd take a ZR1 in heartbeat though. That car is mean.

You will see older men drving them cuz they couldnt afford them when they were young or cuz of family. They sacrificed their nice car for practicallity and family till the kids were gone and then they got their car. Not everyone gets nice cars when they are younger and in todays generation you see more young kids driving cars that a generation ago couldnt afford at that same age for what ever reason. I think some 9not all) in here will see that when you have a family things change very quickly and you might have to wait till the kids on on their own before you can get the toys again.

HT Rambler 05-23-2010 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by nuTinmuch (Post 547450)
Yes, yes you can.

Go around to smokinvette or anywhere Kerbeck is mentioned -- you will see people getting insane deals. They make money via volume. They're huge.

I never heard of kerbeck ,or they in texas ??? Give me the number !!!!!!
It won't happen :shakes head:

HT Rambler 05-23-2010 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by autopc25 (Post 547589)
Sure you can and you don't even have to leave your living room. Call EVS in WI and ask for Erik the owner. It's been a while but I bet he will sell you a C6 for very close to $42K. He will even deliver it to your door for a few bucks more if you want. He makes it super easy, as easy as ordering a pizza! I ordered 2 C6s this way. Great cars and great dealer!


Don't know who evs in wi is but if you give me his number i'll calll him :tup:
Around here is 60k or hit the door , well you can go to the used lot.

nuTinmuch 05-23-2010 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by HT Rambler (Post 547971)
I never heard of kerbeck ,or they in texas ??? Give me the number !!!!!!
It won't happen :shakes head:

You can clink the link and find all this information out for yourself.

cossie1600 05-23-2010 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HT Rambler (Post 547007)
I'v seen those deals everywhere , do me a favor since I'm in texas. go there intending to buy it and see what the real price is. I'll garantee you you cant get a new vette for 42k anywhere no matter what options. Been there done that. The only thing that was a deal breaker for me was it has to be auto everything else was neg. nobody has them.


Yes you can, I got mine for 39K with options on it! Those internet guys are awesome, they sometimes have Z06 for 60s

j.arnaldo 05-24-2010 10:18 AM

Muscle car vs. Sports car. V8 vs. V6. "Much Worse Than Average" reliability vs. "Better Than Average" reliability. Abysmal MPG vs. reasonable MPG...I'll stick to my reliable Jap' monZta!

96bigbody 05-24-2010 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by j.arnaldo (Post 548466)
Muscle car vs. Sports car. V8 vs. V6. "Much Worse Than Average" reliability vs. "Better Than Average" reliability. Abysmal MPG vs. reasonable MPG...I'll stick to my reliable Jap' monZta!

:ughdance:

Lug 05-24-2010 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by j.arnaldo (Post 548466)
Muscle car vs. Sports car. V8 vs. V6. "Much Worse Than Average" reliability vs. "Better Than Average" reliability. Abysmal MPG vs. reasonable MPG...I'll stick to my reliable Jap' monZta!

2009 Chevrolet Corvette Reliability - MSN Autos

the vette gets an 8
2010 Chevrolet Corvette Reliability - Best Cars & Trucks - U.S. News Rankings and Reviews


The Z gets a 6
2009 Nissan 370Z Reviews, Pictures and Prices - U.S. News Rankings and Reviews

Another comparison:

2010 Nissan 370Z Reliability Rating
2009 Chevrolet Corvette Reliability Rating

You might come away surprised.

j.arnaldo 05-24-2010 12:24 PM

I have the latest April Auto Issue of CR at home. I already know 'bout that. The great thing 'bout CR is that their feedback comes directly from vehicle owners, and not a biased opinion by a magazine staffer. Nuff said!

Mike 05-24-2010 12:58 PM

My C6 got better mileage than the Z. 27 on the highway and 20 around town. Thats about 1 better than the Z on both counts.

40th370z 05-24-2010 01:47 PM

Vettes,Cameros,Mustangs,and even the Challengers are becoming a dime a dozen car,people see them every day,most people will walk right past them to see a Z parked at the end of a line with those cars in them because they don't see them everyday.

Although if the Stingray concept becomes the new C7 Vette,that will change Photo Gallery: 2010 Corvette Stingray Concept - WebRidesTV

shadoquad 05-24-2010 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 548682)
My C6 got better mileage than the Z. 27 on the highway and 20 around town. Thats about 1 better than the Z on both counts.

:iagree: Vettes get outrageously good mileage for the performance.

shadoquad 05-24-2010 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 40th370z (Post 548720)
Vettes,Cameros,Mustangs,and even the Challengers are becoming a dime a dozen car,people see them every day,most people will walk right past them to see a Z parked at the end of a line with those cars in them because they don't see them everyday.

Although if the Stingray concept becomes the new C7 Vette,that will change Photo Gallery: 2010 Corvette Stingray Concept - WebRidesTV

Actually, even the C7 will get old in a relatively short period of time. All Corvette designs age pretty quickly because they're common in the US, so we see them fairly often. Doesn't mean they aren't still sleek, gorgeous sports cars. They just aren't "exotic" looking vs. their competitors.

Edit: I see your point, though. By the time that happens, 370Z's will also be more common.

Lug 05-24-2010 02:04 PM

I like my drive to be performance-oriented, I care far less about how it looks or how "exclusive" it is. Want exclusive? Buy and Edsel!

:D

Zsteve 05-24-2010 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 548732)
Actually, even the C7 will get old in a relatively short period of time. All Corvette designs age pretty quickly because they're common in the US, so we see them fairly often. Doesn't mean they aren't still sleek, gorgeous sports cars. They just aren't "exotic" looking vs. their competitors.

Edit: I see your point, though. By the time that happens, 370Z's will also be more common.

already are. I see more and more every day.

nuTinmuch 05-24-2010 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j.arnaldo (Post 548466)
Muscle car vs. Sports car. V8 vs. V6. "Much Worse Than Average" reliability vs. "Better Than Average" reliability. Abysmal MPG vs. reasonable MPG...I'll stick to my reliable Jap' monZta!

The Vette is not a muscle car. It is a sports car.

It is also pretty damn reliable. It also gets better MPG. :V

shadoquad 05-24-2010 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 548914)
already are. I see more and more every day.

Sure. And there will be more and more as long as they keep selling the right number each year. Eventually they'll be as common as 350Z's, especially when the used car market has its way and newer Z's get performance/styling tweaks as years go by.

As I said, though, rarity/exclusivity (or the lack thereof) doesn't change the fact that it's a beautiful, aggressive design. But I think the design of the Stang/Camaro/Vette will age faster because they sell more in general.

Lug 05-24-2010 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 548933)
Sure. And there will be more and more as long as they keep selling the right number each year. Eventually they'll be as common as 350Z's, especially when the used car market has its way and newer Z's get performance/styling tweaks as years go by.

As I said, though, rarity/exclusivity (or the lack thereof) doesn't change the fact that it's a beautiful, aggressive design. But I think the design of the Stang/Camaro/Vette will age faster because they sell more in general.

Stylewise, it's just miles ahead. I think both the 350Z and the 370Z are some of the only cars I see that I don't instantly want to change something about their looks other than something like a simple drop/wheels.

shadoquad 05-24-2010 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug (Post 548962)
Stylewise, it's just miles ahead. I think both the 350Z and the 370Z are some of the only cars I see that I don't instantly want to change something about their looks other than something like a simple drop/wheels.

I know it may be nitpicking and subjective, but I also think the Z's interior looks much, much better than the C5 and C6 Vettes.

Mergnthwirker 05-24-2010 05:15 PM

What impressed me most about the 370Z, compared to the Corvette I also test-drove, was its composure on pot-holed and frost-heaved New England roads. These roads are winding, with blind corners, "thank-you-mum" whoop-dee-doo bumps and decreasing radius turns. This is what I drive on every day.

The Z could fly down these roads, whereas the Corvette creaked, groaned, and wiggled. After 10 years of driving each one daily on these roads, I think the Z will still be together, but the Corvette would be decomposed into disparate parts, flying off at random. Both of them felt a little more ponderous than I'd like (especially on corners that are 1-lane wide and blind). But the Z was a clear winner for me, so I bought it!


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