Id love a 370Z with the vette engine and its power and tq. Would need a good LSd tho maybe AWD.

The vette engine would be nice (although I'd rather drop the new mustang engine in there) but seriously, the miata doors is what makes this car a CAR!

Not if it can't get out of first gear, lol. Read up on the TR6060 transmission. Lots of them don't like to shift so much.

My point wasnt that the SOTP or measured acceleration was better, but that the car worked better. It did what it was designed to do better.

a 0 60 in 4 secs seems to get off the line pretty good.

I think you are missing the point I was trying to make. The 'vette is prone to grinding gears due to the increased size of gears in the TR6060 vs. the T56, thus necessitating smaller (less effective) syncro's, while the Z, from what I understand, does not have this issue.

The 'vette body was thrown togather from crap materials with a stellar engine and suspension and a so-so transmission with the sole purpose of being fast--and it is. Handles well, too!

I relate it to having a 3500 square-foot house that has no furniture vs. a 2500 square-foot house that is nicely furnished. Yeah...you got a big house and you spent the same money as the guy with the 2500sq foot, but it's kinda stupid living with it after you get over your advantage on paper, isn't it?

I went from a 350 horsepower car ('01 WS6) that broke literally weekly to my 145bhp INfiniti G20. They handle about the same and the G20 hasn't broken in several months (since I had it).

I like the G. It doesn't rattle, either. Speakers don't crackle. Etc.

I dont think the grinding of the gears is as bad as you say. Ive been in the forums too and they are not as bad as you are making them out to be. Its just here and there like how things are here and there on all cars. Did a corvette turn you down or something?

"Turn me down"?? What do you mean? You got me there, I am confused.

I am in the market and just comparing the cars and saying what I have seen. The TR6060 is used in lots of cars, and most of them (Challengers, GT500's, 'vette's) are having issues since the re-design of the T56 (and morph into the TR6060).

Tremec has changed syncro material for 2011 'vettes (dunno about the other cars, as the GT500 '11's still have horrible trans issues). I am curious to what difference it makes. Not enough '11 'vettes in the field to see, yet.

I would love the performance of a Z06, but the interior would bother me I think. It looks ok on the showroom, but the rattles in time would get to me, as would the seats if they degrade as fast as people say, etc. It really does seem 2nd or 3rd tier materials used to allow for that engine/suspension and still come in at the $$ it does. Nothing is free. I just drew my limit at $60K, and it seems at $60K or less, I must choose: speed or quality.

most issues Ive seen in the vette threads a few and with 08 and below models. Havent really seen any for the 10 or 11 so maybe they got better. Im seriously considering the vette so I will have to research this more too.

In '08 they went to the TR6060. IT shifts smoother when it doesn't grind 1-2. A lot of owners have had issues with it, but many say "only grinds until it warms up".

This poll/thread shows some of the common issues with 'vettes and how prevalent they seem to be, just on that forum at least.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...ette-been.html

Still, not cool with me.

I love the power of the 'vette, but the interior grates. I know my WS6 was super fast to me (had a 240whp GT and then went to the 300whp WS6), but the speed quickly wore off and I realized what a bucket of bolts it was. I don't want to plunk down 65K on a Z06 only to have the speed get boring (and it does, or people wouldn't mod them for more...) and hate the car for being 2nd rate in every other area. I am thinking of how I will feel AFTER the first year or 2 of ownership.

I am curious to see about the 2011 transmissions in the 'vettes.

Further, the sqeaks I did hear came from the tops in the 'vettes I rode in (C5 removable top/ C6 'vert). I am curious if the Z06 is quieter. I know it isn't much stiffer (25Hz vs. 24Hz for a coupe w/roof in place), but the roof being solid, it CAN'T sqeak.

If the Z06 is quieter and the 2011 Tremec solves the issue. Well, the note on a 1LZ Z06 vs. a 370Z loaded out is 1 shift a month overtime for me. I'd do it! Those are my gripes, transmission and rattles. Curious to see how they are addressed for '11.

My '76 has squeaky tops. When driving without them, the car is solid. Not bad for a +30 year old car. Well engineered? I think so for its day. Most squeaks and rattles can be isolated and fixed. I wouldn't make a decision on buying a car by what forums say unless there actually was a documented REAL problem. Heck, who would buy a 370Z by some of the "issues" posted in here?

I agree with all you said except the demographic issue.z owners could say
the same thing about the corvette guys about the demographics

two things the cars do have in common...... for the money in each price range
they have no equals.

The only thing wrong with checking out other forums sometimes is its hard
to weed out the bull.s....

heck if i read all the bad things about the 370 on here i might never have bought one to start with......just saying......

demographic -----I think you used the wrong word!