shutting off traction control
 

ok so i know how to shut of the vdc,just push the button.but how do you actually shut off traction control.is it even possible?auto xing is gonna suck with one or both features on.sorry if this has been posted before :tiphat:

What model you have? If you have VDC you don't have traction control unless you are referring to LSD on the Sport model.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong...

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I thought traction control was a part of vdc. If you shut off vdc, traction control is off.

I would guess you would have to hold it down for 5-7 sec

:facepalm: IBTL

I heard it turns off all the airbags too, since you want to live on the risky side and have a higher chance of a crash.

VDC is all you have. Push the button and your done.

and...

In before the "I crashed my Z" thread

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Doesn't make any difference. "Instant touch" off or 5-10-15 seconds hold = same result.

I kinda have to agree. OP please drive carefully once you turn VDC off. We have lost plenty of 370Zs due to VDC being off.

Especially Nismos!! :bowrofl:

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According to page 74 of the June 2010 copy of Import Tuner Magazine. The only way to fully turn of traction control is to remove the Bosch modulator under the emergency brake. Hope this helps, I have not tried it yet.

The OP said he was going to autocross the car.
Seems like a good, reasonably safe place to drive the car without VDC interfering.

I agree, too many people on this board have control issues. It would be nice if people could answer technical questions without the additional ethical BS. :rolleyes:

Agreed. Pretty clear the OP was referring to turning VDC off for AutoX, in which case we should be praising him for taking the car to the proper venue.

It's not like he came in saying, "yo dawgz, me 'n my boyz wanna go driftin' but I can't get my driftz on coz thars lyke 10% TC on evn when I turn VDC off whats up?"

Word.

thanks for the sensible advice guys.appreciate the supports.there are always gonna be sarcastic replies so i just focus on the helpful ones.yes this is for auto-xing only im old enough to know not to do stupid **** on the streets.i love my car too much. soo much so that i refused to auto-x last week cause it was not broken-in yet but im good for this week.i know most of the guys are just overly concerned but ive autocrossed all my previous cars to no ill effects.difference is i knew how to turn off tc in those cars.cheers

Good luck and have fun!! Try running the car once or twice with the VDC on, probably give you some insight as to where to slow down. Smooth=Fast. Enjoy!

As one of the "old guys" on this forum, I'm constantly amazed at how dependent we've become on technology - not just with cars, but in general. And in this case, I can guarantee you that if you know how to drive and handle a car, you can safely drive the 370Z on the street with VDC off - let's face it, 332HP and 270lb-ft of torque isn't exactly super high performance (my 1972 Corvette with a 383 stroker in it kicks my Z's butt, is safe to drive on the street, and the only computer in it is in the radio...).

If you don't know how to handle a car, or if you're in inclement weather conditions, leave VDC on. But if you do know how to handle a car, driving the Z with the VDC off is a lot more fun. IMHO, YMMV, etc...

Hope you do well at the AutoX event! If you have experience I don't think you'll have to worry much about VDC being off.

Well, if the OP had RTFM'd...he'd know the answer.

I'm sure pilots thought the same thing when hydralic control surfaces entered the industry...and again when computers took control of the plane, and fly-by-wire became the norm...

We're heading the same way...one thing at a time.

The Z has a number of charactoristics to it that older cars don't - even if they have more under the hood...there are other factors at play with the balance of the Z as well as the lack of a solid rear axle, different suspension tendancies...etc.

Yep, agree. What gets me is that a lot of people seem to think they're taking a huge risk with VDC off. IMHO, the Z is a very easy car to handle - it's very predictable and very stable, even at high speeds, with VDC on or off. So if you know how to handle a performance car, I say turn VDC off and have even more fun.

That's a big if. You have to understand than a HUGE number of people that buy this car or are gifted this car don't understand any basic vehicle dynamics at all.

have u seen the manuals in these new cars?dude if u have the time to read that then more power to you.ive been driving for 15yrs and auto crossing for 5yrs in that time ive owned and raced a mazdaspeed,wrx,m roadster and a lotus elise before getting this car.i can handle it.i simply asked an innocent question.p.s thanks to those who gave me a simple answer.if we all read the manual or listen to the dealership we bought these cars from,the forum would be a very boring place :twocents:

That or they understand BASIC vehicle dynamics...ie, not high performance vehicle dynamics.

This car (like other high performance cars and motorcycles) have a sharp learning curve - when you find your limit, it's a toss up as to if someone or something gets hurt.

As seen on other threads...


Myself, I drive with it turned on 95% of the time, and it doesn't interfere. Could I drive with it off and be fine? - sure...but why bother - if it's unobtrusive as-is for my driving style, it's just a layer of protection like ABS, say for instance, I'm in a near-accident scenario, and I goose it to "jump" out of the way...goose it too hard, and the Z won't go QUITE where you point it...lol

I wouldn't suggest someone to RTFM, if I hadn't read it myself. Read it the first night after bringing it home. Most of it is simple crap like how to use your seatbelt properly...which you can easily skim over that junk, unless you need a refresher.

Same with my Frontier.

How does RTFM help here?

The FM says:
The VDC OFF switch is used to turn off the VDC system. The VDC off indicator illuminates to indicate the VDC system is off. When the VDC switch is used to turn off the system, the VDC system still operates to prevent one drive wheel from slipping by transferring power to a non slipping drive wheel.

He said he knows how to turn off VDC, but traction control stays on.
To kill the traction control you have to open up your mid-console and rip out a Bosch modulator. That's not in the FM...

:rolleyes: Bosch modulator? Is that the thing the Mars Martian needs to blow up the earth in those bugs bunny cartoons?

That's interesting. When I turn VDC off, I sure don't have any traction control. Just ask the last pair of rear wheels that came off my car! ;-)

So off is all off ?

Not this 50-50 stuff?

That's the Q38 explosive space modulator.

This is correct. Traction control is still on even with VDC off.

However with street tires and LSD it doesn't really seem to be an issue at the auto-x. There typically isn't enough traction to lift the inside wheel to the point that it will spin freely so instead both wheels spin when you juice it in a corner. With sticky race tires it is a different story, and I've had the traction control intervene when trying to accelerate out of a corner. It's a little annoying but the intervention isn't that painful.

So yes, traction control is still on partially, but it only intervenes if there is a large differential in speed between the 2 rear wheels. You can still do burnouts and donuts to your hearts content if that is your thing.

Yes, go back to your cartoons and leave the cars to the real men.:confused:

Ignore the morons, it's a lost cause. :driving:

Nobody Mentioned!!
 

Okay... If you leave Traction Control button ON. Which is default when you turn on your car. Your back tires will automatically brake, preventing you from spinning your car if one tire spins faster than the other.

If you turn it OFF. You will get less of this auto braking.

If you perform a Launch on your car, drop the clutch pedal. with the traction control button ON, your back tires will begin braking and your purpose of your launch is messed up. lol

If you take short fast corners with this botton ON, your back tires automatically brake.

So in other words!!

TURN OFF if you want to drive aggressively.

Leave ON if you choose to drive like a normal driver.


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The traction control is never completely off.

True. I always drive with my VDC turned off. I honestly dont remember the last time I forgot to turn it off. It is habitual now. I also dont know how many times with it off it still will kick on, not bad, but enough to notice, then I look down and it is blinking.