Tha's idiotic. I drive with one hand on the wheel and the other hand holding my whiskey bottle and I got no problems at all! :mad:



:D

i like complete control of my car...n my woman to..haha

But even sex with no foreplay is fun. Just as driving the Z with an auto is still fun. I wonder if a car salesman can use this comparison when making a sell?

I drive with no hands and steer with my boner....

you can make yours bend around the wheel? Damnnnnn. Is that called TIP (tronic) control?

Yessir!

Mine just has a nasty habit of spitting out the window.

It's ok to love your car but not to love your car! :eek:

This is really good, intelligent advice. Really sum's the whole thing up.

BUT!

Let me add a quick comment, there will be holes in it, but read it for what it's meant to say.

Before you make any move, drive a stick for a while, preferably a 370Z, like at least a full day of different driving experiences. You may find that the experience is not what you thought it would be.

If you make the trade, it's gonna cost you, so why not spend a few bucks up front and try to rent a stick Z for a day and see how you really feel about the whole thing. It doesn't have to be a 2010, an 09 or even a 350Z would be good enough. Then you could drive it under varied conditions and at least get a fairly good idea of how you really feel about the tranni.

I have the 7 speed AT and I love it. It's my first auto, always stick before, and I don't miss the stick at all. You can shift her over to manual and shift using the tach with a simple, quick snap forward on the stick, so you do have control over how you want your Z to perform at a given time.

And, this car is SO QUICK AND SO FAST that unless you're really used to handling a car like the Z, you would be well advised to be able to put both hands on the wheel, should things get a little hairy, as quickly as possible.

I am NOT advocating speeding, reckless/unsafe driving! But, even the safest driver can find themselves in positions on the road that call for quick thinking, and the ability to do what's needed to avoid trouble.

For example, you're shooting up an on-ramp, and you get to 3rd gear, and you find that you suddenly need to concentrate on merging over between a bunch of cars. With the AT, you just flick the stick back to auto, put both hands on the wheel and take it from there, not having to worry about engine brake or having the engine revving like crazy until you're settled into the lane. That could take what should have been a safe and normal driving maneuver, and turn it into possibly a dangerous one.

Again, if you're really good behind the wheel, (experienced) great, but if you're not, then you could get into trouble with a car like the Z in a flash.

The paddles are good for those twisty turny "mountain roads" drives when keeping both hands on the wheel is a very good idea, and the manual mode is great for just having fun on the mostly straight drives.

So, right now you have the best of both worlds with the Z you already have.

But, I do understand how some just love the stick, and that's great too, just be sure you know absolutely which one you really want to have before you make a move.

I hope you're not letting someone else's opinion sway you, make sure you do what YOU want. don't feel bad about your Z because someone said that an Auto tranni is whimpy. You're paying for the car, not them.

Let us know what you decide.
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^Really good advice

Aye that's some good points there.

i am curious: to match the zero to 60 mph time of a 370z with a 7AT, does the driver of a 370z with a 6MT have to drive car the to red line of each gear or can he accomplish that by switching gears prematurely (like at 5000 rpm or 6000 rpm)???

says the one with the mt...
agreed i love how drivers in crap cars say u got a auto.. im like yea it has mt to.. and i could crush ya... <.< on the track...

So far I've laughed back at everyone who has tried to flame my AT. 1) I remind them that they drive a shitbox, and if that comment is inapropriate, I just invite em tithe track. So far, no takers. :)

Personally, I'm a bit in the same thought...

I bought an AT to keep myself "out of trouble" and from going "mod happy". However...lol...that's not really stopped me, I've just hit the limit and still want more, and I still get myself into trouble - but truth be told, I'd have more control without it being an AT - because I can always stomp on the clutch for instant power removal, instead of relying on the engine to spin down hard enough, or the torque converter to release when it wants to.

I also compromised on the color (I wanted plat)...so, for me, is it worth trading in a perfectly good 7AT black touring/sport with all the options except nac, a FI cat-back, and a G3 intake, for a new PG 6MT touring/sport bone-stock...AND...have to pay 4-6K in depreciation, even though I have a total of 3750 miles on the Z? No.

That said, I have considered trading it on a Mustang with a 5.0 (which I'd promptly dump more money into) or even a top-level Camaro SS (which in person doesn't look bad...just some camera angles it's like waking up the next morning after boozing and realizing what you brought home...), and also putting in a roots SC... ;)

Anyhow...

excatly

I'll agree with everyone that said just keep the car, your wallet will take the hit. But I dont care what any of you AT guys say, there is nothing, I repeat, NOTHING more fun than kicking a clutch and banging through the gears, I could never in a million years, get any enjoyment out of clicking a paddle on the steering wheel, an auto just feels so disconnected and boring. I'll admit, during high traffic conditions, an auto would be ideal, and it would be easier just to stomp the pedal for straight line acceleration, but my MT is just too damn fun.

6M for me, forever, as long as its a sports car


I wouldn't trade it in, maybe sell privately and try to snag a good deal on a left over 09

good point there Jeff,

I traded in a 6 month old accord coupe and lost my 6k downpayment and 6 months worth of payments to be in the Z. I wasn't happy in the accord and would be on the370z.com every night looking at people's pics and browsing threads. I said eff it, you only live once! haha. Now when I leave work, I try to avoid leaving the same time as my partners and co workers because they are all about "practicality." I work for an accounting firm, and most people make sensible decisions which they would not think the Z is. This car is a waste in MOST peoples eyes, but do what you want. You only live once, so like Jeff said, if you're gonna do it then do it now. I have no regrets here.

^^^ BTW, an Auto isnt the only 12 second 370 now. :tup:

thanks so much for ur help....i am going to meet one of my new friend who driveing a manual tomorrow...then i wil make my desicion!

Exotics use automated manuals, usually with a dual clutch setup. I think some early Ferrari's and BMW's SMG uses single clutch units.

NOTHING like the torque converter setup in the 370Z auto. Design and function wise they are COMPLETELY different. The Z's auto is the same concept as any other automatic in your typical accord or camry, with the exception of an extra gear or two and some extra tricks like rev match on downshift. Still uses a torque converter, still delay no matter how much you AT guys want to deny it when queuing an upshift or downshift. You're not in control, the Z's 7spd Auto sometimes has to hunt for gears and randomly downshifts multiple times ect. when you put the pedal down just to get to the right gear. When an AT owner approaches a corner he/she has to frantically pull the paddle and wait for the car to respond to the multiple downshifts ect. A manual owner puts it in whatever gear he want directly..instantly. Sure the 7AT is slightly faster in a straight line because you can launch better(loading the torque converter), I think the Z's auto slips all 1st and locks up in 2nd, there is no human error involved... since the car shifts for you.


My 335i has a ZF 6spd steptronic paddle shift AT, also with rev match, and one of the fastest shift, only second to the IS-F. I purchased my 335i in AT because in the 135/335i form it's also slightly faster than the manual counterpart. First couple months I told myself, hey this could work, I don't really miss manual since this is an EXCELLENT automatic. After a year of owning it I was ready to tear my hair out. I would absolutely say one of the most enjoyable and satisfying part of sports car or sports sedan ownership is driving it with a manual, it just feels so incredibly dull with an automatic. ESPECIALLY in a true sports car like the 370Z.

well i talk to a dealer today and i may have to pay around 7000 USD out of my pocket to get the exact same car! I put 15000 for this car and i still own around 28,000 USD....my first bill aint even here yet!

Unless you have a lot of money to waste keep your car. If you must have the 6MT sell your Z private party for a lot more than the dealer will give you.
I love my 6MT btw. :stirthepot:

I'm pretty sure im in control when driving my AT thank you very much. The car never hunts for gears or downshifts randomly whenever in maunal mode. (Unless you rpms drop to low). In regular mode it honestly isnt an issue for me, I never notice it. The car responds very quickly when downshifting. Multiple downshifts are still fast enough to cope with the braking when going into the corner to keep the car high in the rpms.

False

Anyway OP i agree with the general consensus here, dont sell!

I did a smilar thing. selling my CVT altima coupe after just under 2 years for my Z. i had paid it off but still, it was basically a nice car, that cost me gas+insurance. but it was no fun to drive

My friend has an audi S8. i asked if he had an auto or manual, he said 'both'. i paused with a weird look on my face and he said 'its got tiptronics.' tip tronics are not a manual transmission. you are clicking a button and telling the ecu to change the gear. that is all. i'm not saying its not fun, i'm just saying it isn't a manual transmission.

everyone here talking about how the car doesn't gear hunt etc if its in MANUAL MODE. why would someone get an auto tranny just to drive it in manual mode all the time if they were able to drive stick?


When people with shitty cars criticize your car for being automatic, i think its perfectly legitimate. They are saying 'Damn! i wish i could get a really nice sports car like that, that must be so fun to drive, probably more fun than my piece of ****.... wait yo got an automatic, nvm thats probably not that fun.' all their saying is if theyh ad 30k+ to spend on a sports car, they'd have got it in a manual. obviously they dont have the money to spend, or they'd have the same car, in a manual.

I don't think anyone is trying to make that comparison (manual with automated shifting system)

Personally, I'd like to swap it for a 6MT - but part of me wonders if I could swap transmissions and get the parts needed, for less than depreciation, especially if you consider what the 7AT would "sell" for to the right buyer.

Honestly, I couldn't care less what someone else thinks of what transmission I have. But, I will rub it in their face if they make a comment about it...after I smoke 'em.

I will still have my 370Z 6MT and I will laugh at the entire planet! Bwahaha

:eek: Oh noes!

A lot of amusing comments in this thread. How many times would you have shifted going through that "quick series of tight bends"? lmao

More than I'd like to in that situation

I can understand people liking to shift to feel the car and thats fine for those that want that side of the house. The other side is the ones that want the quicker shifts for performance and not have to work the clutch so much in traffic. F1 guys arent in it for the feel of the car but the better performance. Just depends which side of the house you are in.

Another thing might be age too, Ive had plenty of manuals and I really dont miss them with the new ATs. IMO of course.

Now 7AT FTW. lol.

good point, i wish people would just be honest. If you got an AT just b/c you didn't want to use the clutch(whether cuz you've had enough manuals in your life or you just never learned), thats fine

apparently regardless of transmission choice in this car, everyone seems to love shifting gears, just some don't want to use their left foot, nothing wrong with it just admit it. just be honest. i got a manual because it makes my peni$ seem bigger... can't we all just get along?

I'd buy an auto if I were going to leave it stock because it's faster. I'd buy a manual if I want to upgrade power because it's 10X's easier with a manual. It's that simple.

there is a tranny on ebay for 1300 i think.... grab that, a pedal assembly, and prob an ecu and do a swap... thats an option too , no ?

It can prob be done for well under 7,000

someone told swap is bad for ur car?? is it true?

All i will say is this i have owned both and to each his own. the good news
is both the 7at and 6mt are attached to a 370z!!! so i'm not complaining
either way.

me on the other hand, I have a 6MT, and I'm looking to trade it for a 7AT...

for even considering such a preposterous idea, do pushups joe.

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