Down Shift W/O the Clutch!
 

Recently I have been trying to learn the forgotten art of double clutching. For all those who do not know what double clutching is, research elsewhere...

Applying these principles I discovered that a 6MT with syncro-rev engaged can downshift (and up-shift most times) without the clutch.

Try this.

1. from 5th gear push the clutch in.(or just pul the gear lever w/o the clutch)
2. next move the gear lever into neutral.
3. let the clutch out.
4. now without depressing the clutch push the gear lever to 4th gear.
5. Viola! The syncro-rev blips the throttle and the lever falls into 4th without needing to clutch in!

why?

Why don't you get Auto?

:wtf2:

Double clutching granny shifting...

:hohoho:

Clearly you do not understand the art of the double clutch. It is a technique that allows the smoothest shift possible in a manual transmission. An added bonus is that a master at this technique can drive a manual car with a blown clutch.

Please do some research on double clutching and then respond...

Correct for cars that don't has syncro's There is no point to double clutch in the Z.

Also you are talking about shifting without the clutch......got news for you. That's not double clutching.

I'm pretty sure most people on here know exactly what you're talking about. I think they're just ripping on you for thinking it's some new invention that you need to start a thread about. Clutchless shifting is nothing new.. And is not double clutching.


EDIT: Beaten to it.

again ......why?

:ohsnap1:

:wtf2:

I think we need a WTF3 icon in this case.

OP can I haz your VIN#, I am compiling a list for posterity :driving:

No need to rail on a fellow Virginia boy.

I think most of us already knew that we could shift without the clutch, but for any of the newbs out there this is a good thing to know should they ever destroy a clutch in the middle of nowhere, so this is useful information.

Well I guess the OP is too embarrassed to respond or is googling what the difference between double clutching and clutchless shifting is so he won't be able to respond.

Time to lock this one down.

IBTL

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Double Clutch

1. Push clutch pedal down
2. Shift to neutral
3. Lift clutch pedal up
4. "Blip"
5. Push clutch pedal down
6. Shift into lower gear
7. Lift clutch pedal up

Yeah clutchless shifting is useful should you lose a clutch in the middle of no where but thats not double clutching.

I say this Turkey Thread is Done!!!

:tup: Lee Hotti strikes again!

Hahaha Tony, yeah I couldn't resist.

Its been real, its been fun, but this thread hasn't been really fun. IBTL

Clearly you do not understand the fundamentals of "double clutch"

it's meant for transmissions without synchros, and has straight cut gears...

Let's break down the OP's post because I think a lot of people are misunderstanding him:


OP was practicing the "double-clutch" method of shifting. Because this post is NOT explaining that practice, he advises a google search to all who don't know what this technique is.

After double-clutching, the OP decided to try to shift without the clutch.


OP provides instructions on how to shift without the clutch. OP DOES NOT say the above instructions are instructions on how to double-clutch.




So, if you read his post again, it's pretty clear that he knows the difference between a double-clutch shift and a clutchless shift.

I commonly double clutch 1st and sometimes 2nd gear, especially while the transmission fluid is cold. The syncro's in these 2 gears aren't the best.

OP does make sense. Although its an interesting find, i find no application for the technique. How is it on the tranny?

The application for this technique is shifting with a blown clutch.

If your going to drop $40 k on a sports car, make sure your not too poor afterwards to beable to afford towing your car and getting the clutch replaced, and/or dont buy your 17 year old child a $40 k sports car who's going to drive like a jag off and blow a clutch.

just my .2 cents

Meh... what if you're in the middle of nowhere or if you're a mile from your house? It's really not that big of a deal.

This will keep you going without a clutch...... until you come to a stop . wtf?

A friend of mine drove homew with this for a clutch a few years ago:

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1273625580

Start the car in gear...

That's the clutch out of a 2001 Mustang Cobra, BTW.

Yeah but the op said its for people that know. Newbs go research... then he is confusing double clutching with clutchless shift. It makes him look stupid lmao!

Anywayyyy... if he posted some kind of link for the newbs to get the info and not try to sound like hey I'm Mr. Know sh1t... he wouldn't be gettin ragged on. I normally hate to see people gettin ragged but this one is well deserved. Lol.

Just quote Toretto and get it over with. Maybe you'll be the 10,000,000th person to do so.

:shakes head: is this your first MT car?

wat a useless technique. double clutching is good when you need to get into first from 2nd while still moving forward and your syncro locks you out...or after you stop to get into reverse.

i thought you were downshifting without the use of your clutch... now that i would've been interested in reading how you had to get a new tranny. :D

Or if your syncros are gone and you want to keep your gears from grinding while operating the car.

That's where double clutching would come in.

The op was wanted to explain clutchless downshifting using the syncro-rev and not double clutching, so it makes sense that he didnt explain the later. I dont see anywhere that he is confusing double clutching with clutchless shifting so this makes you look stupid lmao!

Anywayyyyyyyyy... he dosent have to put a link if he dosent want to, its his thread, and if you hate people getting ragged on why are you doing it? Lol.