Nissan 370Z Forum - Down Shift W/O the Clutch!

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Well I guess the OP is too embarrassed to respond or is googling what the difference between double clutching and clutchless shifting is so he won't be able to respond.

Time to lock this one down.

IBTL

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Originally Posted by ResIpsa (Post 533675)

Clearly you do not understand the art of the double clutch. It is a technique that allows the smoothest shift possible in a manual transmission. An added bonus is that a master at this technique can drive a manual car with a blown clutch.

Please do some research on double clutching and then respond...

:facepalm:

Double Clutch

1. Push clutch pedal down
2. Shift to neutral
3. Lift clutch pedal up
4. "Blip"
5. Push clutch pedal down
6. Shift into lower gear
7. Lift clutch pedal up

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 533709)

No need to rail on a fellow Virginia boy.

I think most of us already knew that we could shift without the clutch, but for any of the newbs out there this is a good thing to know should they ever destroy a clutch in the middle of nowhere, so this is useful information.

Yeah clutchless shifting is useful should you lose a clutch in the middle of no where but thats not double clutching.

I say this Turkey Thread is Done!!!

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Originally Posted by Togo (Post 533713)

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:tup: Lee Hotti strikes again!

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Originally Posted by 2theextreme (Post 533732)

:tup: Lee Hotti strikes again!

Hahaha Tony, yeah I couldn't resist.

Its been real, its been fun, but this thread hasn't been really fun. IBTL

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Originally Posted by ResIpsa (Post 533675)

Clearly you do not understand the fundamentals of "double clutch"

it's meant for transmissions without synchros, and has straight cut gears...

Let's break down the OP's post because I think a lot of people are misunderstanding him:

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Originally Posted by ResIpsa (Post 533643)

Recently I have been trying to learn the forgotten art of double clutching. For all those who do not know what double clutching is, research elsewhere...

OP was practicing the "double-clutch" method of shifting. Because this post is NOT explaining that practice, he advises a google search to all who don't know what this technique is.

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Originally Posted by ResIpsa (Post 533643)

Applying these principles I discovered that a 6MT with syncro-rev engaged can downshift (and up-shift most times) without the clutch.

After double-clutching, the OP decided to try to shift without the clutch.

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Originally Posted by ResIpsa (Post 533643)

Try this.

1. from 5th gear push the clutch in.(or just pul the gear lever w/o the clutch)
2. next move the gear lever into neutral.
3. let the clutch out.
4. now without depressing the clutch push the gear lever to 4th gear.
5. Viola! The syncro-rev blips the throttle and the lever falls into 4th without needing to clutch in!

OP provides instructions on how to shift without the clutch. OP DOES NOT say the above instructions are instructions on how to double-clutch.

So, if you read his post again, it's pretty clear that he knows the difference between a double-clutch shift and a clutchless shift.

I commonly double clutch 1st and sometimes 2nd gear, especially while the transmission fluid is cold. The syncro's in these 2 gears aren't the best.

OP does make sense. Although its an interesting find, i find no application for the technique. How is it on the tranny?

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Originally Posted by Chriz (Post 533792)

OP does make sense. Although its an interesting find, i find no application for the technique. How is it on the tranny?

The application for this technique is shifting with a blown clutch.

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 533799)

The application for this technique is shifting with a blown clutch.

If your going to drop $40 k on a sports car, make sure your not too poor afterwards to beable to afford towing your car and getting the clutch replaced, and/or dont buy your 17 year old child a $40 k sports car who's going to drive like a jag off and blow a clutch.

just my .2 cents