370z Vs. '10 GT
 

so.. now that the new mustang's numbers are in.. a 0-60 of 4.9.. an msrp starting even LOWER than the z.. good handling.. good brakes.. and obvious curb appeal.. which one would you choose? comments?

2010 Ford Mustang GT - First Test - Motor Trend

This is the best looking mustang in my lifetime for sure. As far as the comparison goes, I guess there will be people that cross shop these cars but i personally wouldn't.

Z forsure.. only mustang youd catch me in is a roush or Gt-500

I am with the above posts. Do not consider these two cars in the same class.

Mustang is definitely an option still for me, but I'll more than likely have a Z.

My only gripe about the car is the SRA. With the new 5.0 though, that could make up the difference.

at the end of the day...ur still a stang =(...so Z all the way. sexier...sleeker..not american made lol.

^ Support the BIG 3!

Anyhow, the Mustang looks pretty good. You can't beat V8 torque and sound either. However, it doesn't fit my personal style and taste (i.e., I look awkward with a Mustang). It is also a boat (look at the convertible).

So... 370Z it will be even if it's not the fastest or best handling. I'm happy as long as it is a good upgrade over my 350Z.

hmm looks good, but how much does it weight?

Motor Trend had 3572 with the track pack (includes bigger wheels).

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lol...sorry liquid...i just noticed that u drive an 06. my buddy has an 06 gt with some mods (catback, chip, intake, lowered, and lighter rims, and others). he beat my 350 by quite a bit, but now were dead even. but...i think its time u let go of that piece...and hop in a 370 =D

haha ssq im pretty sure the new mustang is more than handsome and sleek in all it's respects.. plus it doesn't have that out of place "butt-hole" on the rear bumper.. not to mention it has those cool rear lights where 1 panel lights up after the last. i know what you're saying tho the z is more reliable and more exotic in it's demeanor.. more attractive to the opposite sex maybe?

I don't realy care for the new Mustang design. 0-60 in 4.9 out of a V8. Funny, Nissan does it or comes close with a V6. And the looks better. ;)

Don't forget about the 03-04 SVT! 390HP... $500 more and it's 490HP! :) Good times.

You're on a 370Z forum, pretty sure a majority of the members here would choose a 370Z...

I'm quite impressed with the handling updates:

0-60 mph 4.9 sec
Quarter mile 13.5 sec @ 104.2 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph 108 ft
Lateral acceleration 0.95 g (avg)
You just don't see braking and Lateral acceleration numbers this good out of the pony in GT form. Good job, Ford.

What's funny is even the 07+ 350Z can beat the GT Mustang.

Only Stang I will ever get again is a SVT product; in this case, the GT500. It does look very nice however.

That said, no contest.... Z.

0-60 mph 4.9 sec
Quarter mile 13.5 sec @ 104.2 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph 108 ft
Lateral acceleration 0.95 g (avg)

Those are great times Motor Trend got for the new mustang. The only 350Z that Motor Trend has tested that got similar times was the Nismo 350Z which ran 0-60 also in 4.9 seconds and the 1/4 mile at 13.5 at 103.9. I'm sure that some non-Nismo 07 and 08 Z's can probably equal some of these numbers but it would take a GREAT driver and some mods (bolt-ons would be sufficient). Motor Trend got 4.7 0-60 run for the 370Z and the 1/4 mile at 13.3 at 105.7. So comparing stock to stock the 370Z is faster (and handles better with it's tested 0.99 lateral acceleration) but this doesn't mean much since you can spend a couple of hundred dollars on the Mustang and make it way faster than the Z.

I agree, the new Mustang looks good, and the numbers are impressive considering the price. I'm curious what the slalom and braking numbers are.

Braking is 108 ft. A lot better than I expected to be honest.

I won't get into it again, but the NISMO is heavier, also has downforce parts on the bodykit which slow it's 1/4 times down. The 350Z's have seen 13.1s at 107 mph stock.

Stock for Stock the 350Z and the 370z are pretty much dead even in a race. It will all depend on the driver. 370Z handles better than a normal 350Z not a NISMO 350Z. But once the NISMO 370Z comes out, then it will out handle all of them. :)

350z and 370z can not have the same acceleration.
The only way that is possible if the 350z has 40k miles on it and the 370z is brand new. Most motors get much quicker as the mileage increases and that is the reason u see those numbers for the 350z HR motor. 370z will be a much quicker car overall. There are cars that shave over 0.6 seconds off their 1/4 mile time by the time they get 40k miles on them.

^Agreed. The 350 is not as fast as a 370....

Umm like I said people are running faster times over the 370z as of this moment. The 370z weighs MORE than the 350z also due to all the safety extras they had to add.

A few of those low times were done on less than 500 miles on the HR motor.

Again, how can it be "much quicker" when all the 370z could do was match the NISMO 350Z 1/4 time and 1.5 mph faster (when the NISMO is slower in the 1/4 because of the down force the body kit produces)? That is not quicker that is the same. Put a HR 350Z vs a 370Z against each other and its going to be a dead heat.

I know where this is headed so I am ending it here.

every track, every weather condition and many other things affects the car's performance dramatically. Put two of those cars with similar miles next to each other and you will see what im talking about. People will do it soon and you will see.

Comparing 1/4 miles from one car to the other in two different times is like comparing dyno readings from one dyno to another at a different time.

Take a good sh!t for a week and that weight difference becomes 0.

It takes someone that doesn't have a "full deck of cards" too buy a car from a company that has to borrow money from it's goverment! Ford could be history in the near future!

Last I checked, z34 was lighter. The safety extra added to the already 200-300lbs lighter vehicle, yet its still lighter than the base z33.

No it's not. 3350 per actual weight of the car from C&D is what the 370 weighed. My NISMO weighs 3324 and its the heaviest other than the roadster of the 350z.

The base 350z weighs in the 3200lb range which is much less than what the 370z weighs. Been discussed in detail on my350z.

http://my350z.com/forum/2009-370z/40...-expected.html

^ The thread has been getting some royal treatment from both sides of the fence. But if its true then that is seriously depressing, for now I'll have to drive this myself for a while and get a feel for it. This is going to be my solo track car, so I'll have to start looking at shaving those lbs off. Thanks for the link!

Couldn't have said it better

Someone just weighed their 370 on this forum; plus or minus a few items, but I think the weight came out to 3320 or something like that. The weight of this car does not bother me... yet. I will wait for a test drive and then give final verdict. I want the Z to handle and be as tossable as my MS equipped RX8. If the Z wows me over my current car, then it will handle and be more tossable than the 350 either way.

I think it was either MT or C&D that rated the Nismo 350Z in the same handeling category as the normal RX8 (not even the MS suspension equipped version). If the 370 comes close to my car stock, wow... what a car. I have a feeling it may, even with its weight. I rented a Maxima for a family getaway to Sedona and was VERY surprised by its handeling, despite its 3580 weight. I kept telling myself, "Imagine a car much shorter than this, lighter, and with more power...WOW... Wait a tick.. I am thinking of the 370Z!!! WOW!!"

Can't wait for the test drive.

Could be wrong but I thought ford was the only company of the 3 to decline the government bail out money.

That is why I bought the NISMO. Way more tossable than a normal 350z. Feels like I am on rails. :)

The NISMO 350Z even beat the S2000 CR. :)

Personally, I think the Mustang is just okay. Ford is still using a small block, which is a negative, and is pushing decent power that is expected out of 8 cylinders. The funny thing that was mentioned in one of the posts in the link is that despite all of the experience Ford has with V8's, Hyundai's FIRST V8 creates more power than the new Mustang's 4.6. LOL! Wow. I'd love to see that Tau V8 in a Genesis Coupe!

Genesis > Mustang then.. hahaha

Anyway, I think I'll stick with my sexier, value sustaining, 370Z. :tup:

Oh... And to the folks that brag about the Mustang having 2 extra seats... COME ON! They are NOT back seats for grown men OR women! Maybe kids, yes, but ummm.... Why? People buy roadsters (even people who are married and have kids), because they like 2 seaters. If you are THAT concerned about having 4 seats for your family, then buy yourself a truely practical car like the FOCUS or whatever!

This "my sports car is more practical than yours" crap is just plain nonsense. Sorry... Soapbox > me sometimes.

Declined, than accepted.

you're ruining the thread, lets keep it mustang vs. z.. it's been a rivalry in the past and now their both hotter than ever! i don't know how this became a topic about how ford is poor or how the new z is heavier than the old ?

Ford and GM will never go under. Chrysler may.

nah theyre not going anywhere. if anything...the first ones to go are Saab and Saturn.

isn't Saab and Saturn GM?