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Nissan370z 11-08-2008 03:07 PM

Who's buying an Auto w/Paddle Shifters?
 
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AK370Z 11-08-2008 07:33 PM

Pfft they are talking about World's First Manual rev matching gearbox, haha :p. I recently had a chance to drive the whole BMW line up(minus M3 or M5). Most of the cars were Auto w/paddle shifter. I gotta tell you, at the end of the day, when I sat in my car, I wish it had paddle shifters.

If you ask GTR drivers if they would ever go back to regular manual, they'll say no. But again they have DCT which is very quick and works just like or better than regular 6 SPD.

Those paddle shifters do look really nice. They are big too.

http://www.the370z.com/members/ak370...e-shifters.jpg

Lock & Load 11-08-2008 08:04 PM

Drove the EVO X with TC SST the dual clucth auto box , quite suprised how fast changes occur .

I have always had manual cars but may consider the Auto depending on the type of gearbox it has :driving:

Those paddle shifters on the 370 Z are huge :eek:


Cheers
Michael

AK370Z 11-08-2008 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock & Load (Post 960)
Drove the EVO X with TC SST the dual clucth auto box , quite suprised how fast changes occur .

I have always had manual cars but may consider the Auto depending on the type of gearbox it has :driving:

Those paddle shifters on the 370 Z are huge :eek:


Cheers
Michael

I don't know how they are going to work. I'm assuming the right for up shifting and the left for down shifting. On BMW, as you put your hand on the steering wheel, three fingers upshift while the thumb downshifts. They basically have 2 for up shifting and 2 (where the thumb rests) for down shifting.

I liked it a lot. I def see me driving a DCT in the future.

cstr_Cali 11-08-2008 10:17 PM

I'm definitely getting an auto for the kind of driving I do; daily commute, weekend excursions to places hours away from home (that's Cali for yah), and speed runs to hang out spots all over.

cow 11-11-2008 08:49 AM

I'm interested in the quality of the gearbox. The 350Z auto 'manumatic' mode is terrible. At wide open throttle, one clicks the upshift only to wait almost a full second.

The new Nissan Altima has the same mode, but the upshifts & downshifts are fairly instantaneous. The car will up & downshift on its own, however.

If the 370Z has a TRUE manual paddle shifter selected as opposed to the assisted manual, I may consider that.

Anyone have any more information?

dutty370Z 11-11-2008 08:06 PM

I'd definately get the auto with paddle shifters. The manual is obviously more hardcore and more fun to drive, by I only drive like a maniac 1/4 of the time. The other times are in traffic to and from work, auto works better for me.

AK370Z 11-11-2008 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cow (Post 1119)
I'm interested in the quality of the gearbox. The 350Z auto 'manumatic' mode is terrible. At wide open throttle, one clicks the upshift only to wait almost a full second.

The new Nissan Altima has the same mode, but the upshifts & downshifts are fairly instantaneous. The car will up & downshift on its own, however.

If the 370Z has a TRUE manual paddle shifter selected as opposed to the assisted manual, I may consider that.

Anyone have any more information?

If you read the Motor Trend article that was released today, Nissan confirmed World's First Rev matching 6 speed gear box for the 370Z. Everyone is trying to come up with an idea of how the heck Nissan is going to program this. Basically what they are saying is that when you down shift, it'll rev match for you. That's all Nissan released. I'm still somewhat clueless and AM trying to find out more info on this.

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Originally Posted by dutty370Z (Post 1201)
I'd definately get the auto with paddle shifters. The manual is obviously more hardcore and more fun to drive, by I only drive like a maniac 1/4 of the time. The other times are in traffic to and from work, auto works better for me.

Auto is def easier to drive. The paddle shifters will come in handy. My recent experience with BMW paddle shifter was really good. I didn't want to go to my 6spd car after driving paddle shifters all day.

Lock & Load 11-11-2008 09:34 PM

Rev matching Sounds great in theory but programing the ECU with any after market mods will be a lot harder , plus being new teck i am certain it will have a few bugs that will need ironing out :stirthepot:

Cheers
Michael

AK370Z 11-11-2008 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock & Load (Post 1208)
Rev matching Sounds great in theory but programing the ECU with any after market mods will be a lot harder , plus being new teck i am certain it will have a few bugs that will need ironing out :stirthepot:

Cheers
Michael

I know. It's a big concern for many interested 370Z owners. This is brand new technology. I'm pretty sure you remember the whole transmission and tire featuring issues from the 03 Zs. If this is final and I don't like the way it works, I think I see 7AT paddle shifters in my future. ;)

Lock & Load 11-11-2008 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 1209)
I know. It's a big concern for many interested 370Z owners. This is brand new technology. I'm pretty sure you remember the whole transmission and tire featuring issues from the 03 Zs. If this is final and I don't like the way it works, I think I see 7AT paddle shifters in my future. ;)

The more electronic controls a car has such as an Automatic rev-matching in a manual gearbox :confused: gets me concerned , you know the old saying :rofl2:

" Its best to learn to shave on someone elses face " :tiphat:

certainly dont want to be amongst the early adoptees test pilots of this new tecknology .

The reason i did not purchase the 350 back in 2003 was based on the info i came across regarding the transmission and the front end problems that you mentioned .

Cheers
Michael

AK370Z 11-11-2008 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock & Load (Post 1210)
The more electronic controls a car has such as an Automatic rev-matching in a manual gearbox :confused: gets me concerned , you know the old saying :rofl2:

" Its best to learn to shave on someone elses face " :tiphat:

certainly dont want to be amongst the early adoptees test pilots of this new tecknology .

The reason i did not purchase the 350 back in 2003 was based on the info i came across regarding the transmission and the front end problems that you mentioned .

Cheers
Michael

Look at my signature. You can see why I'm getting nervous about first year. I am more confident with the 7AT which has been used in the G37 for a year now. Most bugs should be out by now. I just don't understand why they have try this thing on the Z first. Well, I guess we have to wait and see how it'll be. I am a little nervous

cstr_Cali 11-11-2008 11:13 PM

What? 7AT is on the '09 G coupe and sedan as well.

AK370Z 11-11-2008 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cstr_Cali (Post 1213)
What? 7AT is on the '09 G coupe and sedan as well.

Yup. I believe it's the same transmission in G37, too.

Nissan370z 11-14-2008 08:02 PM

I don't think the 370z is going to have that many problems like the 03 350's did..Reason being, the 350 was a whole new design and way different than the 300zx..The 370z on the other hand is a more upgraded version of the 350z (imo). So I doubt it'll have as many issues and if it will I think that they're going to be minor...again I could be wrong :bowrofl:

o0javi0o 11-15-2008 09:06 PM

most likely I'll get them.

ga370guy 11-16-2008 07:17 PM

I am going to get the new Z with the new Auto as well.

Marco69 11-17-2008 11:01 AM

Rev matching transmissions are nothing new. Companies like Ferrari, BMW, AUDI have been using them for a long time. Also, the Toyota MRS had a clutchless manual and also rev-matched for you!

Relax guys, I doubt Nissan's will be as sharp as the high end versions, but it will be entertaining.

I will take a 6 manual transmission (with a clutch)... you know the old fashioned way!

jimxo 11-17-2008 07:03 PM

Not sure yet, need to hear what other owners say.

SMJane_Again 11-18-2008 10:35 AM

Heck, I'm just ecstatic you can even still GET a manual on a sports car. There are some cars, including the GTR, where it's not even an option. I'm only 28 and I'm sure I sound like an old f*rt when I ask when did a "standard" stop being standard???

S.

AK370Z 11-18-2008 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SMJane_Again (Post 2133)
Heck, I'm just ecstatic you can even still GET a manual on a sports car. There are some cars, including the GTR, where it's not even an option. I'm only 28 and I'm sure I sound like an old f*rt when I ask when did a "standard" stop being standard???

S.

haha, "stantard" stop being standard :icon17: Even though many car enthusiast like to row their gear box, but I think Dual Clutch (or twin clutch) transmission will be in our future sport cars. They are extremely quick to shift and it make driving the car in the city very easy. You basically get the best of both world.

ultrablue 11-18-2008 09:51 PM

Sadly, no dealers here ever bring the manials versions of any cars, so unless I want to pay cash (which I dont have) and have one imported from the US, I'll have to "settle" for an auto. So yeah, Auto! Woo!

AK370Z 11-18-2008 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ultrablue (Post 2209)
Sadly, no dealers here ever bring the manials versions of any cars, so unless I want to pay cash (which I dont have) and have one imported from the US, I'll have to "settle" for an auto. So yeah, Auto! Woo!

wow.. I thought they sell more manuals over there... I guess I am wrong.

ultrablue 11-19-2008 05:37 AM

Nope. most dealers only bring over the autoversion. When the G37 coupe came out I BEGGED them to bring me over a manual and offered to pay more for it. they were like Nissan wont sell them to us, its not possible.

Whatever. Im glad they coudnt. The 370Z looks a thousand times meaner than the G37. I'll be one happy camper.

AK370Z 11-19-2008 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ultrablue (Post 2271)
Nope. most dealers only bring over the autoversion. When the G37 coupe came out I BEGGED them to bring me over a manual and offered to pay more for it. they were like Nissan wont sell them to us, its not possible.

Whatever. Im glad they coudnt. The 370Z looks a thousand times meaner than the G37. I'll be one happy camper.

oh ok. We got plenty manuals here in states. Actually, it's unlikely to find an Automatic Z here in my area. 6 speed is very fun to drive. I wouldn't like it any other way UNLESS it's a DSG or Twin Clutch like GTR :driving: (<---even the smiley drives a 6speed :icon17:)

Nissan370z 11-19-2008 09:23 PM

The only reason I'm sticking with auto is because of the ridiculous amount of traffic I have to drive through. So in my case, the auto makes more sense, plus I wouldn't mind it at all. I just hope that it comes with a special mode where all you use is the paddle shifters. I couldn't tell by the pics alone, but having paddle shifters that allow you to shift a lil sooner without having a special mode for them would be retarted. Then again, why did they add the standard +/- part of the tranny if the paddle shifters are already there? I'm confused, anyone want to chime in?
Oh yea, in the press conference the guy was saying that the auto has been improved to be as close to manual as possible. Sounds too good to be true!

koojo 11-19-2008 10:40 PM

I might get an auto as well. Never had the paddle shifters, might as well go all out! LOL

WUKILLABEEZ78 11-23-2008 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Nissan370z (Post 2385)
The only reason I'm sticking with auto is because of the ridiculous amount of traffic I have to drive through. So in my case, the auto makes more sense, plus I wouldn't mind it at all. I just hope that it comes with a special mode where all you use is the paddle shifters. I couldn't tell by the pics alone, but having paddle shifters that allow you to shift a lil sooner without having a special mode for them would be retarted. Then again, why did they add the standard +/- part of the tranny if the paddle shifters are already there? I'm confused, anyone want to chime in?
Oh yea, in the press conference the guy was saying that the auto has been improved to be as close to manual as possible. Sounds too good to be true!

You'll be able to shift the 370Z with the paddle shifters only or you'll be able to use the auto-stick exclusively if you want. There is no special mode for the paddle shifters all you have to do is pull on them at any time while driving and they'll upshift/downshift. With the auto-stick if you move the gear selector to the right and then shift using the auto-stick you have to continue to shift this way unless you move the gear selector back to the left (fools many people, esp. at stoplights because in some cars it doesn't stay in auto-stick mode). My G35 has the same setup with the same paddle shifters and they work good, I don't notice a delay when using either the paddle shifters or the auto-stick. On the G35 there is also a mode called DS (Drive sport) and if you move the gear selector into this mode and leave it there it makes the car shift more aggressively. I'm interested to see if this feature makes it into the 370Z. It's possible the 2007/08 350Z has this feature but I'm not sure...

ctzn 11-24-2008 12:13 AM

This thread is blasphemy I am pretty sure :p

If I had to drive through heavy traffic everyday I would buy a TSX or an Accord, not a sports car. Now I will say I have never driven a GTR or the like, but I am an old school kind of guy having only owned manual cars since I was 16 (about 10 years now), and being an enthusiast I feel that a driver should be able to properly drive and connect with a sports car.

Again though, I can not judge as I have never driven a proper dual clutch auto or even an advanced auto like the IS-F and I assume 370Z auto, so I will reserve final judgment (other than to give you guys a hard time).

Nissan370z 11-24-2008 12:45 AM

^^ Sure, I'll skip buying a 370z and get a 332 hp Prius as per your advice (lol). But to let you know, I've had a 6spd manual 350, so it's not like I've never drive it before. But now I feel like it's time for a change. The rest is up to you, think whatever you want., feel free. =)

Anyway, I think I read up somewhere that there's a special mode for paddle shifters, unless they were referring to something else. I guess we'll wait and see.

ctzn 11-24-2008 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Nissan370z (Post 3166)
^^ Sure, I'll skip buying a 370z and get a 332 hp Prius as per your advice (lol). But to let you know, I've had a 6spd manual 350, so it's not like I've never drive it before. But now I feel like it's time for a change. The rest is up to you, think whatever you want., feel free. =)

Anyway, I think I read up somewhere that there's a special mode for paddle shifters, unless they were referring to something else. I guess we'll wait and see.

I don't advocate the purchase of Prius' :D Though I am sure a 332 hp Prius would be pretty fun to drive lol

It doesn't bother me that people buy automatics and I won't judge you for it, I just had to riff you guys for it.

Sitting in traffic does not allow for the use of much horsepower, thus my feelings on getting a (more) comfortable car for such uses. If I had to sit in traffic and also wanted a fun weekend car (but could only afford one vehicle) I would "suffer" the heavy traffic driving in a manual and reap the reward on the weekends at the track or back roads.

But like I said, I haven't really driven a performance biased "automatic" so I can't judge.

I meant no offense.

dutty370Z 11-25-2008 08:29 AM

Lol, I knew someone would say something eventually. I like being able to choose between cruising comfortably around town, or tearing it up like a maniac! A 7AT sports car, with a manual mode will do that for me.

Nissan370z 11-25-2008 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ctzn (Post 3169)
I don't advocate the purchase of Prius' :D Though I am sure a 332 hp Prius would be pretty fun to drive lol

It doesn't bother me that people buy automatics and I won't judge you for it, I just had to riff you guys for it.

Sitting in traffic does not allow for the use of much horsepower, thus my feelings on getting a (more) comfortable car for such uses. If I had to sit in traffic and also wanted a fun weekend car (but could only afford one vehicle) I would "suffer" the heavy traffic driving in a manual and reap the reward on the weekends at the track or back roads.

But like I said, I haven't really driven a performance biased "automatic" so I can't judge.

I meant no offense.

It's all good...It had to happen sometime lol... :icon17:

Nissan370z 11-25-2008 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dutty370Z (Post 3315)
Lol, I knew someone would say something eventually. I like being able to choose between cruising comfortably around town, or tearing it up like a maniac! A 7AT sports car, with a manual mode will do that for me.

+1. I agree.

shizzawha 11-26-2008 04:51 PM

First off, this is my first post. Glad to see there are others as pumped as I am for the 370. I'm having trouble deciding on the transmission myself. I'm on my 3rd Z and it's an 07 coupe 6speed. I love manuals, but the occasional traffic jam is irritating. My first was a 04 coupe 6speed, then I went to an 06 automatic roadster. I wasn't satisfied at all with the automatic in the 06, but I'm 6'2" and the legroom is much less in the roadsters (couldn't depress the clutch in the manuals). Basing the decision on older z models isn't logical as the 370 will have a 7 speed paddle shift compared to a 5 speed no paddle 06. So what it comes down to is probably hearing reviews on the new rev matching manual. If it works like they say then town/traffic driving might be more tolerable. Has anyone heard any reviews on the rev match manual, also any word on the shift time on the auto?

ctzn 11-26-2008 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by shizzawha (Post 3480)
First off, this is my first post. Glad to see there are others as pumped as I am for the 370. I'm having trouble deciding on the transmission myself. I'm on my 3rd Z and it's an 07 coupe 6speed. I love manuals, but the occasional traffic jam is irritating. My first was a 04 coupe 6speed, then I went to an 06 automatic roadster. I wasn't satisfied at all with the automatic in the 06, but I'm 6'2" and the legroom is much less in the roadsters (couldn't depress the clutch in the manuals). Basing the decision on older z models isn't logical as the 370 will have a 7 speed paddle shift compared to a 5 speed no paddle 06. So what it comes down to is probably hearing reviews on the new rev matching manual. If it works like they say then town/traffic driving might be more tolerable. Has anyone heard any reviews on the rev match manual, also any word on the shift time on the auto?

Hello and welcome

You bring up some good questions about the new 7AT, and I don't think the answers are there just quite yet. From early reviews it sounds like the new manual works very well, but I have yet to read anything about the 7AT.

I am interested to see how well it performs as compared to other aggressive automatic sports cars, but when it comes down to it the thing is still a tradition automatic and not a dual clutch auto manual. I would like to drive the new 7AT and try out the flappy paddles - but I would most certainly plan on buying the manual.

I guess it largely depends on your commute and tastes. Ask yourself why you want to stick with the Z and what it is that you like about it, undoubtedly the manual shifting is part of that experience.

BanningZ 11-27-2008 03:33 AM

Ok I have owned six vehicles in my life. 4 automatics and two manuals, one a five spd, and one 6spd. I have never owned a legit paddle shifter, or sequential shifter.

My question is, can you heat your tires with a 7AT?, Is it just that fast off the line, or is there a way? Not having a clutch pedal confuses me when you have shifting options.

Sorry if this seems like a stupid question.

370allout 11-27-2008 01:49 PM

nah stick to manual

WUKILLABEEZ78 11-27-2008 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ctzn (Post 3503)
Hello and welcome

You bring up some good questions about the new 7AT, and I don't think the answers are there just quite yet. From early reviews it sounds like the new manual works very well, but I have yet to read anything about the 7AT.

I am interested to see how well it performs as compared to other aggressive automatic sports cars, but when it comes down to it the thing is still a tradition automatic and not a dual clutch auto manual. I would like to drive the new 7AT and try out the flappy paddles - but I would most certainly plan on buying the manual.

I guess it largely depends on your commute and tastes. Ask yourself why you want to stick with the Z and what it is that you like about it, undoubtedly the manual shifting is part of that experience.


The same 7 speed automatic is in both the g37 sedan and coupe along with the paddle shifters, etc... You can go to infiniti G sites to read about what people say about it or go to one of the mags (motortrend, etc...) and see what they say about it. I have the 5 speed auto with the paddle shifters in my G and love it. I've read nothing but positive things about the 7 speed, faster, slightly better fuel economy, fast shifting, etc... The manual won't be much faster than the 7 speed auto if at all...

Nissan370z 11-28-2008 12:30 AM

^^ I totally agree with you.


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