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DjSquall 04-12-2010 09:12 PM

8 cylinder in a Z? What do you think?
 
Well this may seem a bit odd, and I'm not not much of a car guy so you better-knowing people can correct me if I'm wrong. But...

Would you like to see a future model Z with an 8-cylinder engine?

Personally, I would like to see this car with a sleeker look, maybe a "sportier" spoiler, and a nice robust 8-cyl engine. Maybe like 4.0-4.5 litre with 400-450ish hp? What's your opinion? Oh and maybe add an inch or two onto those rims and widen up the tires ;)

maybe I'm just dreaming and should save up for that STILLEN supercharger... (or maybe I should just stick to my turntables and stock cars haha)

m4a1mustang 04-12-2010 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DjSquall (Post 494041)
Well this may seem a bit odd, and I'm not not much of a car guy so you better-knowing people can correct me if I'm wrong. But...

Would you like to see a future model Z with an 8-cylinder engine?

Personally, I would like to see this car with a sleeker look, maybe a "sportier" spoiler, and a nice robust 8-cyl engine. Maybe like 4.0-4.5 litre with 400-450ish hp? What's your opinion? Oh and maybe add an inch or two onto those rims and widen up the tires ;)

maybe I'm just dreaming and should save up for that STILLEN supercharger... (or maybe I should just stick to my turntables and stock cars haha)

It would never happen but hell yeah. If money was no object there would be a Ford 5.4L with a KB blower in my Z right now. :tup:

nogoodname 04-12-2010 09:17 PM

V8 in the Z from factory = not going to happen. Sorry to crush your dreams...lol

Trips 04-12-2010 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by nogoodname (Post 494057)
V8 in the Z from factory = not going to happen. Sorry to crush your dreams...lol

:iagree:

http://i612.photobucket.com/albums/t...il_thread2.jpg

SmoothZ 04-12-2010 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DjSquall (Post 494041)
maybe I'm just dreaming and should save up for that STILLEN supercharger... (or maybe I should just stick to my turntables and stock cars haha)

:iagree:

Chriz 04-12-2010 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DjSquall (Post 494041)
maybe I'm just dreaming and should save up for that STILLEN supercharger... (or maybe I should just stick to my turntables and stock cars haha)

You could always get an LS swap :tup:

DjSquall 04-12-2010 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 494056)
It would never happen but hell yeah. If money was no object there would be a Ford 5.4L with a KB blower in my Z right now. :tup:

I can just see you doing a full backflip on launch haha. Mmmmmmmm raw power :D

SmoothZ 04-12-2010 09:31 PM

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a13...uff/rollin.jpg

Titan1080 04-12-2010 09:34 PM

There's that G35 drifter with the Titan's VK56, be a fun swap to do to my Z but only if, God forbid, the Titan gets totaled in such a way that preserves the engine/transmission (and me and any passengers I may have):

http://image.importtuner.com/f/14382...+motor_two.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d2...h/IMG_1650.jpg

m4a1mustang 04-12-2010 09:38 PM

That would be so awesome! A 370 with a 5" cowl hood. LOL.

DjSquall 04-12-2010 09:40 PM

Damn Titan, that looks nice. But wouldn't just swapping out the engine for a more powerful one cause extreme stress on the drivetrain/transmission? (whatever the chain of parts it is that transfers the forces from the engine to the wheels) Or would your tires just spin like a roulette?

6MT 04-12-2010 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DjSquall (Post 494041)
Would you like to see a future model Z with an 8-cylinder engine?

Nope!

brakedrift12 04-12-2010 10:54 PM

I don't like those 8 cylinder engine... just not my type :p

jtown82 04-12-2010 11:23 PM

if i had the know how and the money. and it was possible i would had swapped my ls1 engine from my TA into the Z.

m4a1mustang 04-12-2010 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jtown82 (Post 494312)
if i had the know how and the money. and it was possible i would had swapped my ls1 engine from my TA into the Z.

If you were going to go through all that trouble it'd be better to use one of the more recent LS engines.

Trips 04-12-2010 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 494315)
If you were going to go through all that trouble it'd be better to use one of the more recent LS engines.

:iagree: ZR1

nogoodname 04-12-2010 11:28 PM

get a LS9....lol

Trips 04-12-2010 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nogoodname (Post 494320)
get a LS9....lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv2yFzx9DTk

SkyZ 04-12-2010 11:34 PM

nope. if anything id like a straight 6.

FricFrac 04-12-2010 11:36 PM

I hope Nissan comes out with another straight six - an improved version of the RB26. Maybe something like the RB30 block from Australia with the RB26 heads for an amazing 3.0l turbo charged motor.

V8s are dying. Emissions will kill them and turbo chargers will be the last hold out for huge power as emisson restrictions continue. Then electric cars will take over once a suitable cost effective power storage solution is found. Electric cars will blow the doors off the combustion engines and take traction control to an all new level with powered AWD. No need for a differential. Its going to be the next level of automotive technology. Tuning your car will come down to software and how much current you want to draw from your power source and the capability of your ESC (electronic speed controller). Many will fear the change but its going to be crazy....

Trips 04-12-2010 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FricFrac (Post 494335)
I hope Nissan comes out with another straight six - an improved version of the RB26. Maybe something like the RB30 block from Australia with the RB26 heads for an amazing 3.0l turbo charged motor.

V8s are dying. Emissions will kill them and turbo chargers will be the last hold out for huge power as emisson restrictions continue. Then electric cars will take over once a suitable cost effective power storage solution is found. Electric cars will blow the doors off the combustion engines and take traction control to an all new level with powered AWD. No need for a differential. Its going to be the next level of automotive technology. Tuning your car will come down to software and how much current you want to draw from your power source and the capability of your ESC (electronic speed controller). Many will fear the change but its going to be crazy....

Thanks FricFrac :crying: :crying: :crying:

Black kNight 04-13-2010 12:00 AM

see this video
it is 350z with LS2 engine.
YouTube - Nissan 350z With LS2 Motor Swap
YouTube - ls2 350z
YouTube - mark's ls2 swapped 350z untuned

Trips 04-13-2010 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black kNight (Post 494365)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hyj9fczriVs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afdBd8oklB4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdSqRsmbG8s&feature=related

Red370 04-13-2010 12:12 AM

ha the Z in the last video didnt have an LSD:rofl2: Did yall see him peg leggin it? Funny, all that work into the engine, big ass slicks and no damn LSD:icon17:

Vegitto-kun 04-13-2010 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 494324)

why did that sound like some sort of thunderstorm? :roflpuke2:

why go 8?

V16 600Z :bowrofl:

Chan Chee Hoe 04-13-2010 07:12 AM

I think most cars makers are doing engine downsizing,to cut the greenhouse gases.

Maxima09 04-13-2010 11:07 AM

Coming off an LS1 that is what held me off the Z so far...thinking I just won't be as pleased with it at 332hp (which is 30 HP higher than my LS1) but I don't read about the power as much as I do about LS engines. Maybe a test drive is in order.

m4a1mustang 04-13-2010 11:40 AM

You will be dying for more torque. The Z has no bottom end at all, which is a HUGE shock if you are used to a V8.

Old Chuck 04-13-2010 03:16 PM

m4a1Mustang
 
How do you handle the loss of Torque? That is one thing that I think would be hard to get used to if you have driven a high torque V-8. This is what 'stang owners complain about when they drive the Z especially those with FI or those on the list for the 5.0.

m4a1mustang 04-13-2010 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Chuck (Post 495069)
How do you handle the loss of Torque? That is one thing that I think would be hard to get used to if you have driven a high torque V-8. This is what 'stang owners complain about when they drive the Z especially those with FI or those on the list for the 5.0.

It's tough, for sure. You are so used to instant throttle response even putting around at 1500 RPM, so it's a BIG shock when you move to a car that is as lethargic under 3000 RPM as our 370 is.

You are also (usually) not used to the extra 2,000 RPM so you find yourself short-shifting often. Basically you have to train yourself to the keep the revs up above 3000 and convince yourself that it's OK to wind it out in every gear, in fact, it's necessary if you actually want to get anywhere.

antman22 04-13-2010 04:10 PM

With the Renault/Daimler deal, I'm going to send an email to both companies and see if I could purchase a 6.3L AMG V8, hehe. I'm going to offer $5.

Vegitto-kun 04-13-2010 05:40 PM

if the GT-R cant even get a V8 why would the 370 XD

DjSquall 04-13-2010 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 495238)
if the GT-R cant even get a V8 why would the 370 XD

so we can beat the GTR at 1/2 the price ofc :D:happydance:

jtown82 04-13-2010 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 494315)
If you were going to go through all that trouble it'd be better to use one of the more recent LS engines.

if your were going to go to all that trouble then just put in a 454.. see how can can keep going. why i said my ls1 because i actually owned it. trying to keep things realistic. and the ls1 is actually a popular engine to be swapped into imports IE the rx7's

MightyBobo 04-13-2010 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jtown82 (Post 495402)
if your were going to go to all that trouble then just put in a 454.. see how can can keep going. why i said my ls1 because i actually owned it. trying to keep things realistic. and the ls1 is actually a popular engine to be swapped into imports IE the rx7's

Its popular because its cheap, and there are kits to do it. But, the same kits will work for ANY of the LSX motors really...so if you had no motor and you wanted to do the swap...MINIMUM I would put in is an LS2. If I had more monies and could find one? LS3.

gorillanismo 04-14-2010 12:30 AM

in my humble opinion thats a murder

Maxima09 04-14-2010 07:22 AM

Instead of putting an LS3 into the Z, get a base Corvette 1 LT for 44k or so. It comes with the LS3 already installed!!! Then you get 20 inch rear tire/front 19 etc

MightyBobo 04-14-2010 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxima09 (Post 495825)
Instead of putting an LS3 into the Z, get a base Corvette 1 LT for 44k or so. It comes with the LS3 already installed!!! Then you get 20 inch rear tire/front 19 etc

Would definitely be cheaper.

GTRFAN 04-14-2010 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FricFrac (Post 494335)
I hope Nissan comes out with another straight six - an improved version of the RB26. Maybe something like the RB30 block from Australia with the RB26 heads for an amazing 3.0l turbo charged motor.

V8s are dying. Emissions will kill them and turbo chargers will be the last hold out for huge power as emisson restrictions continue. Then electric cars will take over once a suitable cost effective power storage solution is found. Electric cars will blow the doors off the combustion engines and take traction control to an all new level with powered AWD. No need for a differential. Its going to be the next level of automotive technology. Tuning your car will come down to software and how much current you want to draw from your power source and the capability of your ESC (electronic speed controller). Many will fear the change but its going to be crazy....

:iagree:

One of the reasons Nissan use a straight six is because it's buttery smooth and can rev to 10k. All "V" motors will have some sort of vibration as they are not naturally balanced. The older RB series engines currently make a lot more power than the VR38 in the R35 GTR.

Moving on...I would like to see either a new turbo straight six with around 4 liters like the Australian Ford F6 or a decent V10 twin turbo with a short stroke that suits boost.


Quote:

Originally Posted by jtown82 (Post 495402)
if your were going to go to all that trouble then just put in a 454

That's such an American comment! haha Bigger is not always better.

The weight of the engine is a major factor as well, so big heavy V8's are not an option as they upset the balance of a small car like the Z.

Jeremy Clarkson once said running a V8 is like having a dead cow on your hood! haha

NYBladeZ 04-14-2010 08:48 PM

Unfortunately making that much power would take away from the GTR marketshare and therefore will never happen.


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