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WICKED_GRIN 04-11-2010 06:25 PM

Why the 400Z was killed
 
Somebody should say Something to Mr. Ghosn!!



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Red370 04-11-2010 06:29 PM

Ghosn you son of a bitch!

WICKED_GRIN 04-11-2010 08:27 PM

Hopefully, he will have an early retirement! That son of a bitch

Red370 04-11-2010 08:43 PM

so do you think that this is eluding to the Z's retirement at the end of the 370's cycle?

Red370 04-11-2010 08:44 PM

I wouldnt doubt for one second that Nissan is currently in development of a new 240/Silvia

frost 04-11-2010 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WICKED_GRIN (Post 492212)
Somebody should say Something to Mr. Ghosn!!



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Mr. Ghosn, I'm going to murder and eat you.



Too harsh?

Mike 04-11-2010 09:35 PM

say what you want about him, but he brought the entire world the GTR and saved the company. I haven't gotten my AW yet and read the article, but whatever he has done now, you have to balance it with what he has accomplished there.

frost 04-11-2010 09:36 PM

There is always one guy who wants to diffuse the angry mob.

theDreamer 04-11-2010 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 492636)
say what you want about him, but he brought the entire world the GTR and saved the company. I haven't gotten my AW yet and read the article, but whatever he has done now, you have to balance it with what he has accomplished there.

Yep, and stated in the article is the Z as we know may not survive but the essence will live on in another vehicle. From pure speculation that could mean anything, maybe a V6/electric system or an affordable performance electric vehicle.
Nissan already has the Leaf coming soon, puts the GM Volt to shame all around including price.

Trips 04-11-2010 09:38 PM

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theDreamer 04-11-2010 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 492642)

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Zsteve 04-11-2010 09:43 PM

they killed the 400Z cuz they are working on the 500Z. Due to come out in 2012.

Trips 04-11-2010 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 492649)
they killed the 400Z cuz they are working on the 500Z. Due to come out in 2012.

you need to pass the joint
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f5...Smoke_MS_5.jpg

PapoZalsa 04-11-2010 09:48 PM

I din't think the Z is going to last too much pass a few year! The Japanese market lost 36% last year, so is not looking good.

Glad I had the privilege to owned a 300ZX, 350Z and now a 370Z which I will keep forever unless something dramatic happens. I'll be looking for a 240Z or 260Z here pretty soon.

Zsteve 04-11-2010 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 492652)

Noooo Im stingy with my weed.

WICKED_GRIN 04-11-2010 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa (Post 492654)
I din't think the Z is going to last too much pass a few year! The Japanese market lost 36% last year, so is not looking good.

Glad I had the privilege to owned a 300ZX, 350Z and now a 370Z which I will keep forever unless something dramatic happens. I'll be looking for a 240Z or 260Z here pretty soon.




will that make my roadster a collectible???

PapoZalsa 04-11-2010 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by WICKED_GRIN (Post 492657)
will that make my roadster a collectible???

Maybe....

Zsteve 04-11-2010 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by WICKED_GRIN (Post 492657)
will that make my roadster a collectible???

Junk yard collectable for spare parts if they stop the Zs production. But seriously what would they replace the Z with? Thats alot of history to throw away.

Mike 04-11-2010 10:24 PM

Is a 96 300 a classic?

dad 04-11-2010 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frost (Post 492524)
Mr. Ghosn, I'm going to murder and eat you.



Too harsh?

No not at all! Any thing less from you and we would all go into shock!
Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 492652)

Memories pressed between the papers of Zig Zag!
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 492656)
Noooo Im stingy with my weed.

Bogart:gtfo2:

Zsteve 04-11-2010 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dad (Post 492688)
No not at all! Any thing less from you and we would all go into shock!

Memories pressed between the papers of Zig Zag!


Bogart:gtfo2:

come to el paso and you can get some real easy and cheap here. Just dont across the border, have to dodge bullits right now.

dalparadise 04-12-2010 12:12 AM

This is precisely why I got so into the Project Mothra build, and why I got my Roadster in the first place. The car business is changing. The Z is a dying breed. We should enjoy these things while we can. Cue "Red Barchetta" by Rush...

From the Project Mothra site:

There will be a day

when the growl of a finely tuned exhaust note isn't heard on American roads anymore. When cars become appliances. When getting from A to B is more important than hearing an engine scream. Or tires straining against physics to hold a line. Or wind being sliced and recoiling in protest.

That day is not today.

Mothra may be our last stand; the last hope for anyone who remembers what it's like to drive for the shear thrill of it. She will be a screaming adversary to the ordinary, relentlessly defending our right to carve up a little asphalt in the name of horsepower, handling and having fun.
Strap in, America

Your roads and tracks are about to become battlegrounds.

UNKNOWN_370 04-12-2010 12:19 AM

One thing that's bad about the japanese sports car market in america. They like to tease us with great, but not there perfect examples of there autos. Let's keep it real. Japan never gives us the best versions of there sports cars. And when they do. They give us a heavier not as great version. they are as fickle with us as we are with them. They might do a 240sx? If its the same plan they were working on in 07-08. It won't do as well as other competitors coming out. A mazda rx7, toyota ft-86(along eith subie version) and mitsubishi is working on another awd 290hp eclipse that might possibly come out for 2012.(still not much word on that car. Its on the hush)
The Z has not been the kind of car to be in the middle of a line up of similar cars. When they pulled in the 90's. The 3000gt, eclipse awd, supra, rx7, and corvette were all in the game. Nissan jumped out and cancelled there cars. I'm not saying they can't compete with those cars cuz they can. But it seems like, when the Z is in a very competitive american market. Nissan pulls out.
Are the japanese are still angry over WW2? Or is it renault(france) is still mad about freedom fries??? Lol.
Either way... let by gones be by gones and stay in the game. 400z baby.

1slow370 04-12-2010 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 492681)
Is a 96 300 a classic?

in 2016 yes

DarrenZ 04-12-2010 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by WICKED_GRIN (Post 492212)
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Great Read, thanks for posting

370Zsteve 04-12-2010 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 492793)
One thing that's bad about the japanese sports car market in america. They like to tease us with great, but not there perfect examples of there autos. Let's keep it real. Japan never gives us the best versions of there sports cars. And when they do. They give us a heavier not as great version. they are as fickle with us as we are with them. They might do a 240sx? If its the same plan they were working on in 07-08. It won't do as well as other competitors coming out. A mazda rx7, toyota ft-86(along eith subie version) and mitsubishi is working on another awd 290hp eclipse that might possibly come out for 2012.(still not much word on that car. Its on the hush)
The Z has not been the kind of car to be in the middle of a line up of similar cars. When they pulled in the 90's. The 3000gt, eclipse awd, supra, rx7, and corvette were all in the game. Nissan jumped out and cancelled there cars. I'm not saying they can't compete with those cars cuz they can. But it seems like, when the Z is in a very competitive american market. Nissan pulls out.
Are the japanese are still angry over WW2? Or is it renault(france) is still mad about freedom fries??? Lol.
Either way... let by gones be by gones and stay in the game. 400z baby.

I don't understand this post. The 240Z was created especially for the American market, and most Nissan design is done in the USA. The USA is by far the largest market for cars. And heavier cars in the USA have always been due to mandated safety equipment. The WW2 comment and the "freedom fries" comment (is there anything more pathetic than the idiots who coined "freedom fries"?) are uncalled-for. And the RX-7, 3000GT and Supra were all pulled for the same reason the 300ZX was pulled. They couldn't sell any of them.

370Zsteve 04-12-2010 06:13 AM

Leave Ghost alone, he green-lighted the 350Z in the first place, and he knows his marketing. We'd all be driving Mustangs and used Caymans if not for Ghost.

Tyrell Tyson 04-12-2010 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 492925)
Leave Ghost alone, he green-lighted the 350Z in the first place, and he knows his marketing. We'd all be driving Mustangs and used Caymans if not for Ghost.

Mustang OR Cayman...S... CAYMAN S PLZ amazing car!!! <3

Btw nice new av

fullmonty 04-12-2010 07:34 AM

If they kill it, I'll be happy to say I owned a 370... And go back to driving Mustangs

Endgame 04-12-2010 07:38 AM

Plan to keep my 370Z, so HOORAY ME if they do kill it; there will be that many less on the road; and you must admit, the what a great car to go out on!

That said, bring on the 240!! Or new RX7... that is what I would eye for my next toy...

kannibul 04-12-2010 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 492678)
Junk yard collectable for spare parts if they stop the Zs production. But seriously what would they replace the Z with? Thats alot of history to throw away.

A lot of the G37 parts carry over...

That said, bumpers, doors and hoods will all be going way up in price if it happens.

WICKED_GRIN 04-12-2010 10:25 AM

Ghosn wants group sex……

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kenchan 04-12-2010 02:14 PM

probably mostly because guys in japan these days prefer playing on wii and date and rape virtual game girls than drive around sports cars like us guys do.

WICKED_GRIN 04-12-2010 07:59 PM

That kinky son of a bitch

nicknick 04-12-2010 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 493443)
probably mostly because guys in japan these days prefer playing on wii and date and rape virtual game girls than drive around sports cars like us guys do.


This is also true of Chinese.

FuszNissan 04-12-2010 08:18 PM

Key word "unprofitable"

370Zsteve 04-12-2010 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by fullmonty (Post 492965)
If they kill it, I'll be happy to say I owned a 370... And go back to driving Mustangs

I see someone took my advice on his Avatar. :tup::tup:

fullmonty 04-12-2010 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 493929)
I see someone took my advice on his Avatar. :tup::tup:

Yep you got a +1 on that one dude

HKYStormFront 04-12-2010 08:53 PM

this brings up an interesting discussion i had over the weekend with some friends. the 350z was constantly changing. although it remained virtually the same between 03 and 04, in 05 they introduced then optional "revup" 300hp engine (up from the standard DE's 287hp iirc) then in 07 they made every car come with the "HR" VQ which produced 306 hp. is the 370 going to be the same? obviously the original release with 332 hp then the follow up of the 350hp version in the nismo is one thing but it's not the standard unit in the base model like it was in the 07's (everything from the base model to the nismo got it). will nissan introduce a direct injection VQ into the 370 or wait till the next body style? a direct injection VQ could easily make upwards of 375hp or more putting it more in direct competition with the camaro and mustang who have just barely edged over the 400hp mark (granted with a LOT more weight than a Z). then again, this would edge the Z34 closer to the performance of the GTR which it needs to keep itself seperated from. it will be interesting to see how the 370 evolves over the course of it's life as a production vehicle. also i don't see the Z going down in displacement since every version of the Z has had a larger displacement compared to it's predecessor but i could see an only slight bump (maybe 3.8 or 3.9L) with a light presssure TT setup with direct injection as a "Z35" engine setup, at least optionally, as gov't CAFE standards get more and more strict while the EPA dictates car get closer and closer to zero emissions... yay government for tinkering with business in our "free market" *rolls eyes*

p.s. Z's have always been a good marketable money-maker for nissan, this whole "not profitable" notion seems a little strange to me. i could see them not making an R36 due to being "not profitable" since it's such a low production (and currently low selling) vehicle but the Z should be safe in it's continuation into the future. Mr. K wouldn't have it any other way...

speedoflife 04-12-2010 08:56 PM

Since Pontiac went out of business, all aftermarket/upgrade parts for my car have double to tripled :(
I just want a Z before it dies!


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