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jtown82 04-05-2010 12:08 PM

M/T testing of the 2011 stang GT
 
didnt see a post of it. here are the first legitmate tests of the new stang GT.

looks like Ford underated the output.

in the end it ran 12.8@110mph. only needed 105 ft to stop from 60-105. and had maximum lateral G accel of .95g so there def going to be quicker. and seem to handle very well even for being around 3700ish lbs.

i still dont like the look of them. i also know FORD lt the SVT division engineer alot on this car so it will be interesting to see if small bolt on mods like exaust and intake really do anything for the car. i do know once thing. these cars are going to be nasty once FI comes into the equation.

but i still wouldnt want one over my Z ^^ everyone and there mother will have one. and there just not nearly as Sexy.

but ill get it to Ford. they finally did it right with the mustang.

XBadgerX 04-05-2010 12:17 PM

4.4 0-60 as well.

Mag350Z 04-05-2010 12:18 PM

MotorTrend has a new comparison on its website.
2011 GT vs 2010 SS vs 2010 SRT8.
The Mustang did a 4.4 0-60 and a 12.7 at 111mph 1/4 mile, and .97g on the skidpad.

Mag350Z 04-05-2010 12:20 PM

I agree the 370Z looks much more exotic, but those are some serious performance numbers.

ejrives 04-05-2010 12:32 PM

i think it's funny they had to put the 5.0 back in it and give it an extra 100HP to get those times.:shakes head:

semtex 04-05-2010 12:33 PM

You didn't see a post on this because you didn't look in the right section. There's an 'Other Vehicles' section to this forum. And here's the thread in the correct section: http://www.the370z.com/other-vehicle...ang-5-0-a.html

wishihadnav 04-05-2010 12:34 PM

"rollin..in my 5 point 0...drop top down so my hair can blow"..haha.

kenchan 04-05-2010 12:39 PM

mustangs have never crossed my mind...

Matt 04-05-2010 01:12 PM

I love my Z. If someone handed me the keys of a Camaro or Mustang, I'd sell either over my Z.

However, if things don't change much by 2011, the Z will easily be left out of the comparisond being made in our price range. You can throw out the "omg its fast, but I'll be faster in the corners!" argument all you want, the Z is not going to be the better car overall.

Again, big fan of my Z...but consumers need some reasons to buy Nissan, and as of 2011 it won't be handling, power, speed, comfort, or spaciousness.

kenchan 04-05-2010 01:40 PM

hummm... the 4 seating family grocery getter wins again? so sad.

where have all the "car guys" gone that work hard to buy 2 seaters? all these convenience packaged sporty cars are so un-carguy like. they're like my dd cars...family and convenience oriented... but it can drive sorta fun too.

Lug 04-05-2010 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt (Post 481930)
I love my Z. If someone handed me the keys of a Camaro or Mustang, I'd sell either over my Z.

However, if things don't change much by 2011, the Z will easily be left out of the comparisond being made in our price range. You can throw out the "omg its fast, but I'll be faster in the corners!" argument all you want, the Z is not going to be the better car overall.

Again, big fan of my Z...but consumers need some reasons to buy Nissan, and as of 2011 it won't be handling, power, speed, comfort, or spaciousness.

won't be for handling? That just don't compute. :confused:

370zlove3 04-05-2010 01:55 PM

If I'm not mistaken, doesn't the 2011's Mustang corner better than the 370Z? Feel free to correct.

theDreamer 04-05-2010 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370zlove3 (Post 481983)
If I'm not mistaken, doesn't the 2011's Mustang corner better than the 370Z? Feel free to correct.

No one knows yet, but per the stats it does not but is very close.
Also, those sub 13 times were all done with 3.73 gears and other options. Now it is an option from factory to get better gears now, but it makes the price jump up more.

Lug 04-05-2010 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 370zlove3 (Post 481983)
If I'm not mistaken, doesn't the 2011's Mustang corner better than the 370Z? Feel free to correct.

The Z pulls higher G's in the skidpad and out slaloms the mustang. It will get destroyed in the straights though.

Daishi 04-05-2010 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370zlove3 (Post 481983)
If I'm not mistaken, doesn't the 2011's Mustang corner better than the 370Z? Feel free to correct.


no.. motor trend pulled a .99G to the skidpad with the z.

370Z_Fan 04-05-2010 03:07 PM

Get a Stillen or GTM supercharger and call it a day if you're worried about being outdragged.

Endgame 04-05-2010 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug (Post 481990)
The Z pulls higher G's in the skidpad and out slaloms the mustang. It will get destroyed in the straights though.

Right, over 2MPH faster to go a bit further.....

Z eliminator 04-05-2010 04:11 PM

Can not wait to meet one at the drag strip.
370 sport 7AT with all the N/A toys and drag radials+ 4.08 gears.
the stang will have to go low 12.5s to get by my Z.

Zsteve 04-05-2010 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Z_Fan (Post 482106)
Get a Stillen or GTM supercharger and call it a day if you're worried about being outdragged.

Again someone trying to compare a FI upgraded car to a stock car so they can win. If you up yours they up theirs and you still lose. Face it the new stang will be faster stock for stock as it is a newer year. A year later someone else will be faster. Its a cycle we have our turn now and will get ours again in a few years.

m4a1mustang 04-05-2010 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 482228)
Can not wait to meet one at the drag strip.
370 sport 7AT with all the N/A toys and drag radials+ 4.08 gears.
the stang will have to go low 12.5s to get by my Z.

12.5 will be easy for a bolt on GT. My guess is DRs would be enough...

WICKED_GRIN 04-05-2010 04:32 PM

^^ Here we go again……2 seat sports car vs. 4 seat muscle car....V8 vs. V6!

semtex 04-05-2010 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 482235)
Again someone trying to compare a FI upgraded car to a stock car so they can win. If you up yours they up theirs and you still lose. Face it the new stang will be faster stock for stock as it is a newer year. A year later someone else will be faster. Its a cycle we have our turn now and will get ours again in a few years.

:iagree:

While it's only natural to feel a little forlorn at the prospect of being one-upped by the Mustang, I think it's beneficial to keep the big picture in mind. What drives Nissan -- or any car company for that matter -- to improve their product is competition. They're not improving their cars with each successive generation just because they're bored or because they're feeling altruistic. They're doing it to compete. Competition drives progress and innovation.

On a side note, this is why I'm reluctant to sink the coin into going F.I. As much fun as I'm having with modding my current Z, I know that sooner or later the next best thing is going to come out, at which point my current car is going to get kicked to the curb because I'll view it as obsolete. That's just me; it's how my mind works. I used to deny it and tell myself that I'd keep my car forever in order to justify the expense of modding it. But I know better. For better or worse, I have an 'out with the old and in with the new' mentality. So now I try to exercise moderation when it comes to how much I spend on modding.

Old Chuck 04-05-2010 05:37 PM

We will not know how they compare
 
until they go head to head. The buzz is that the new Mustang 5.0 will run over 70 mph in the slalom so it is two mph faster then the old 4.6. With those nuumbers and its over 420 HP, it could give the 370Z a good run on the track. Folks that run the old Mustang in AutoX say that they can be tuned to do much better on the track and turn in better times then the 370 for not much cash. However, the only thing that should matter is which car you enjoy driving and which one puts a bigger grin on your face..

elixxxer 04-05-2010 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by WICKED_GRIN (Post 482268)
^^ Here we go again……2 seat sports car vs. 4 seat muscle car....V8 vs. V6!

You can use this argument all you want, that doesn't make it logical. If you don't think people cross-shop the two because of rear seats and a different engine, you are out of your mind (especially considering the Mustang rear seats are virtually useless). V6 vs. V8? Comparable because they are priced similarly. The new Mustang V6 is about as fast as a G37 and will be immensely less expensive. The V8 will kill the 370Z in the straights for similar money. They are both sports cars that look good and go fast, so stop getting defensive when people compare the two.

WICKED_GRIN 04-05-2010 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by elixxxer (Post 482370)
You can use this argument all you want, that doesn't make it logical. If you don't think people cross-shop the two because of rear seats and a different engine, you are out of your mind (especially considering the Mustang rear seats are virtually useless). V6 vs. V8? Comparable because they are priced similarly. The new Mustang V6 is about as fast as a G37 and will be immensely less expensive. The V8 will kill the 370Z in the straights for similar money. They are both sports cars that look good and go fast, so stop getting defensive when people compare the two.




Some food for thought…..sports car vs. muscle car…..just saying

Sports car - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Muscle car - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

WICKED_GRIN 04-05-2010 06:00 PM

^^ Pony Muscle Car = Mustang……….can’t wait to test drive the 5.0

TheWeatherman 04-05-2010 06:15 PM

Overall, the Mustang, performance-wise, would beat us. Good job Ford. I'm proud of ya. It's about time. Semtex, great comment above. As a lot of us have been taught, there will always be something better. (I still love the Z's looks and performance.) Don't even flex guys. Anyone out racing, watch what stock GT vs. stock 370 will do on any track. Again. I'm proud of Ford. I even like the 2011 Ford Edge Sport over my new FX35. Always something newer. That's the way it works. Some just do it better than others.

CBRich 04-05-2010 06:38 PM

A bright yellow raincoat is much better at protecting me from the rain than my coat. But it's just not my style. I am not the least bit upset about any other car besting my Z. There are so many reasons to purchase a car and performance is just one.

Zsteve 04-05-2010 06:41 PM

My last car had a back seat and had more trunk space than the Z and it is the same size give or take about 2 inches (Audi TT). The back seats couldnt be used for an adult but a child seat or small child can fit in the back and I could put the seats down and have 3x the space the Z has. I considered it a sports car just like the Z and if you get the TTS its just as fast, so 2 seat and 4 seat can be sports cars/muscle cars and will be looked at by both sides. Todays cars are really a combination of sports car and muscle cars. Cuz now most muscle cars are getting comfort things added to them to make them more pleasureable to more people. Difinaitions change as times change.

WICKED_GRIN 04-05-2010 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 482493)
My last car had a back seat and had more trunk space than the Z and it is the same size give or take about 2 inches (Audi TT). The back seats couldnt be used for an adult but a child seat or small child can fit in the back and I could put the seats down and have 3x the space the Z has. I considered it a sports car just like the Z and if you get the TTS its just as fast, so 2 seat and 4 seat can be sports cars/muscle cars and will be looked at by both sides. Todays cars are really a combination of sports car and muscle cars. Cuz now most muscle cars are getting comfort things added to them to make them more pleasureable to more people. Difinaitions change as times change.




You can call any car a sports car…….but you cannot argue with the true definition of what makes a car a sports car! Audi TT is nothing but a GTI……are you saying a VW is a sports car?

TheWeatherman 04-05-2010 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 482486)
A bright yellow raincoat is much better at protecting me from the rain than my coat. But it's just not my style. I am not the least bit upset about any other car besting my Z. There are so many reasons to purchase a car and performance is just one.

Yup! It's all about taste. If we all liked the same thing, we'd drive the same thing. How boring!

Zsteve 04-05-2010 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WICKED_GRIN (Post 482523)
You can call any car a sports car…….but you cannot argue with the true definition of what makes a car a sports car! Audi TT is nothing but a GTI……are you saying a VW is a sports car?

like I said definitions change, if you want a sports car and you think the Z is a sports car by the definition you posted you would have a car thats open and no way of covering it, only for racing, no AC ,no stereo, no bluetooth, you get the idea. A sports car definition is different now and I can post a internet one too.

"The Houghton Mifflin definition of the "two seat rule" seems out-of-date. Many sports cars today offer small back seats (sometimes referred to as 2+2 seating) and there is a current movement underway to increase the seating room in models long considered sports cars by most automotive experts."

Again its all subjective now as times and technologies have changed.

A GTI if its power is up there could be classified as a sports car as that seems to be the real test now, power and small size. You can hate on other cars all you want but the TTS will kick some azz and still has way more comfort than the Z and yes it cost more, but were not talking $$$$$s. Go by performance the TTS and now the TTRS is above the Z in probably all areas give or take a two and the current stang and prolly new stang if you go TTRS. And they have a back seat but are sports cars.

So 2 seat 4 seat who cares, what can they do is what its all about.

Endgame 04-05-2010 07:06 PM

How do you figure the TTS is above the Z? The Z best the TTS, but not the TTRS.... The Z is more in between those...

WICKED_GRIN 04-05-2010 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 482538)
like I said definitions change, if you want a sports car and you think the Z is a sports car by the definition you posted you would have a car thats open and no way of covering it, only for racing, no AC ,no stereo, no bluetooth, you get the idea. A sports car definition is different now and I can post a internet one too.

"The Houghton Mifflin definition of the "two seat rule" seems out-of-date. Many sports cars today offer small back seats (sometimes referred to as 2+2 seating) and there is a current movement underway to increase the seating room in models long considered sports cars by most automotive experts."

Again its all subjective now as times and technologies have changed.

A GTI if its power is up there could be classified as a sports car as that seems to be the real test now, power and small size. You can hate on other cars all you want but the TTS will kick some azz and still has way more comfort than the Z and yes it cost more, but were not talking $$$$$s. Go by performance the TTS and now the TTRS is above the Z in probably all areas give or take a two and the current stang and prolly new stang if you go TTRS. And they have a back seat but are sports cars.

So 2 seat 4 seat who cares, what can they do is what its all about.





You are confusing yourself…………..sporty cars vs. sports cars! apples and oranges!!

BalanBro 04-05-2010 07:30 PM

That would also be saying that the GT-R is not a sports car.

B1nks 04-05-2010 07:32 PM

new stang will be a beast on the streets, period. They will put an exhaust and a SC on them and BAM..be smokin and probably be a lot more cost effective in doing so. I'm a bit jealous, I have to be honest, but it's like what has been said, they're a dime a dozen. All that also means is we are going to be raped a lot more often by pimple faced 16 year olds and females and their moms and..haha.

Zsteve 04-05-2010 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WICKED_GRIN (Post 482565)
You are confusing yourself…………..sporty cars vs. sports cars! apples and oranges!!

Not really your just going by a 1960s definition and wont adjust for the times. No biggie, definitions are like opinions and azzholes, everyone has one. Even insurance companies change with the times for their definitions, for more money of course. Im not mad at ya,, just different opinions is all.

WICKED_GRIN 04-05-2010 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BalanBro (Post 482585)
That would also be saying that the GT-R is not a sports car.


right……GT-R is a sports sedan….just like the BMW M3, M6 etc.

Zsteve 04-05-2010 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WICKED_GRIN (Post 482655)
right……GT-R is a sports sedan….just like the BMW M3, M6 etc.

A sports sedan or a sports saloon is a descriptive term applied to a sedan automobile that is designed to look and feel "sporty", offering the motorist more connection with the driving experience, while providing the comfort and amenities expected of a luxury sedan.

From wikipedia that you are relying on

So the GTR only "feels" sporty and is really a luxury sedan. I wonder if ins companies consider it a sedan?

WICKED_GRIN 04-05-2010 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 482639)
Not really your just going by a 1960s definition and wont adjust for the times. No biggie, definitions are like opinions and azzholes, everyone has one. Even insurance companies change with the times for their definitions, for more money of course. Im not mad at ya,, just different opinions is all.





It’s all cool….this is America, we can agree to disagree….that’s what the forum is all about bro!!


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