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U-NVmyZ? 04-04-2010 01:06 PM

How often or do you ever?
 
how many of u guys with the sport pack. use the SRM? i've been reading about some small issues with it. i wont need the SRM, cuz i like my downshifts, but is it something thats cool to use or does it just get played out?

thanx

TheWeatherman 04-04-2010 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by U-NVmyZ? (Post 480137)
how many of u guys with the sport pack. use the SRM? i've been reading about some small issues with it. i wont need the SRM, cuz i like my downshifts, but is it something thats cool to use or does it just get played out?

thanx

It's awesome, and it's really strange to be in a car without it. I never drive with it off. In normal traffic, it pays itself off with every single downshift. Completely worth the money. Every cent of it. I will have a tough time buying a manual without it, it's that nice.

Oh, and you can shut it off, which is also nice if you'd ever NOT want it on. I don't see why it would be off.

shadow2k 04-04-2010 01:14 PM

I've only turned it off a few times since I've had the car. A couple of times when I first got it to make sure I remembered how to heel and toe, and a few times to show people what it is actually doing if they ask about it.

U-NVmyZ? 04-04-2010 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWeatherman (Post 480140)
It's awesome, and it's really strange to be in a car without it. I never drive with it off. In normal traffic, it pays itself off with every single downshift. Completely worth the money. Every cent of it. I will have a tough time buying a manual without it, it's that nice.

Oh, and you can shut it off, which is also nice if you'd ever NOT want it on. I don't see why it would be off.

i've known that you can shut it off, and u just reminded me about traffic lol i always thought it was real cool, but i thought to myself, "i dont think i need that" and "with an extra 3k i can get the wheels i want" any issues with it?

TheWeatherman 04-04-2010 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by U-NVmyZ? (Post 480146)
i've known that you can shut it off, and u just reminded me about traffic lol i always thought it was real cool, but i thought to myself, "i dont think i need that" and "with an extra 3k i can get the wheels i want" any issues with it?

Mine was one of the first shipped into the country. I guess it needed a new Neutral Position & clutch position sensor, but that was really a minor, quick fix. (I'm one of the only people in the country with a documented problem with SRM.) The engineer said that was the problem, and I have had no problems since. I'd gladly have it repaired for something that minor for what it pays itself off for. NVmyZ, you'd love it. It's that traffic and normal driving thing where it really, really pays off for you. I probably would've shelled out 2K, just from it's function, without the wheels, brakes, and spoiler. Love it!

Matt 04-04-2010 01:20 PM

For the first few months of ownership, I couldn't turn SRM off. I loved it.

Now, after realizing I have much more stop-n-go traffic instead of "twisty downshift-necessary" turns, I usually keep it off.

In my type of traffic, it's only function seemed to be making people think I was revving my engine at red lights.

AndyZ 04-04-2010 01:21 PM

I usually turn it off. But when i smashing down the mountain or track i turn it on
perfect downshift every single time

U-NVmyZ? 04-04-2010 01:26 PM

weatherman, ur making me want to get it real bad now.. haha i've been waiting to get the 370, mostly waiting to save up a few more bux. i feel as if its time to go play in the market:)

TheWeatherman 04-04-2010 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt (Post 480154)
For the first few months of ownership, I couldn't turn SRM off. I loved it.

Now, after realizing I have much more stop-n-go traffic instead of "twisty downshift-necessary" turns, I usually keep it off.

In my type of traffic, it's only function seemed to be making people think I was revving my engine at red lights.


Ahhh, Matt. Think like an automatic in traffic. This talkback is kind of more for NVmyZ. Let's say you're going 35, you can easily have it in 6th. When slowing down, keep the clutch engaged, let the revs come down to around 1K, hit the clutch, come to a stop, THEN shift down. No unecessary revving then. Secondly, let's say you are slowing, but then wanting to speed back up.. Be smart about the next gear you select. 35 in 6th, slowing to 15. Engine revs to like 1K, again... Clutch, now 2nd gear.... Clutch again. No fuss, no jerk, just smoothness. You don't have to even hit the gas until you want to speed back up. People won't think you're revving at them.

AK370Z 04-04-2010 01:31 PM

SRM is one of the most addicting thing about this car. I think I have turned it off once since I left the dealership last year. I wouldn't drive my Z any other way :tup:

TheWeatherman 04-04-2010 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by U-NVmyZ? (Post 480159)
weatherman, ur making me want to get it real bad now.. haha i've been waiting to get the 370, mostly waiting to save up a few more bux. i feel as if its time to go play in the market:)

Go play buddy! Try it out with, and without. (Just hit the button) I'm sure a dealer will let you take one out if you show up with your '08. You'd be a serious buyer. Just don't get yourself into too much debt on us, okay? Hey, and you can always save again for new wheels and sell your sport package ones. I'm sure there'd be PLENTY of takers. They look great in person.

import111 04-04-2010 01:34 PM

I have never once used it, and I don't plan to. I can rev match my own down shifts.

Matt 04-04-2010 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWeatherman (Post 480160)
Ahhh, Matt. Think like an automatic in traffic. This talkback is kind of more for NVmyZ. Let's say you're going 35, you can easily have it in 6th. When slowing down, keep the clutch engaged, let the revs come down to around 1K, hit the clutch, come to a stop, THEN shift down. No unecessary revving then. Secondly, let's say you are slowing, but then wanting to speed back up.. Be smart about the next gear you select. 35 in 6th, slowing to 15. Engine revs to like 1K, again... Clutch, now 2nd gear.... Clutch again. No fuss, no jerk, just smoothness. You don't have to even hit the gas until you want to speed back up. People won't think you're revving at them.

I'm well aware of the measures I have to take to avoid the "unnecessary revs" from SRM. But for some people, there really just isn't enough downshifting-required turns to take advantage of SRM, in my opinion.

Xan 04-04-2010 01:44 PM

I figured the manual says during break in not to rev it above 4k, so I'll turn in on once I hit 1200 miles... :)

theDreamer 04-04-2010 01:46 PM

I leave it on always, works well in traffic and love to hear my engine rev.

Modshack 04-04-2010 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by import111 (Post 480165)
I have never once used it, and I don't plan to. I can rev match my own down shifts.

LOL.....:bowrofl:. Yeah, so can I, but after 45 years of Rev matching downshifts, I find the SRM awesome.....YOU can ignore the technology here, whine about the electronic nannies, Yada yada, but in the end it is an excellent system that can make you a better driver..(but that's really up to you, isn't it??)......

Nikon FM 04-04-2010 01:52 PM

A friend of mine who drives/tracks a GT40, CR6 track modified Vette and a fully modified/built 911 drove my 370Z on the track (me in the passenger seat) and he tells me the SRM is the best invention since the wheel.

I never turn it off because it is so much fun to drive.

LinPark 04-04-2010 01:54 PM

I considered getting a base model and doing everything myself too - with the Sports Package you get the following:

Nissan Sports Brakes
SynchroRev Match
Viscous limited-slip rear differential
19" Rays
Bridgestone Potenza tires
Front chin aero deflector (I can't even see this thing in pictures)
Body-color rear spoiler

Just comes down to how much do you really want to deal with adding/updating each of those versus just paying the $3k. Looking at that list, the only thing I might never replace would be the LSD and of course the SRM. Good luck with your decision.

U-NVmyZ? 04-04-2010 02:45 PM

I will go try it out see how it is with and without. The 3k is well worth it hands down. I got my 350 for 27 otd. an 08 in sept of 08. I don't think it will be the same with the 370 + sport pack lol. Maybe for a base.. thanx every1 for ur input. I'm leaning more on the sport than before

ejrives 04-04-2010 04:14 PM

if you're getting the Z , the sport is the best value for a package, 3k for Rims, big brakes...enough said. I rarely take off the SRM unless i'm showing someone what it does or feel like making sure I can still drive without it .

TacoZ 04-04-2010 04:29 PM

I used to have it off all the time when i first got the car. But once I tried it out, it is both addictive and fun to use. Now I can't imagine having a car without it. You won't regret it.

rsximus 04-04-2010 04:36 PM

I think it's one of the most special feature of the 370Z. I showed it to my S2000 friends and they were like :eek:

I think I've only turned it off once or twice just to see the difference, I love slowing down to a traffic light and downshifting, perfect rev match and no drivetrain buckle. It's amazing.

shabarivas 04-04-2010 05:28 PM

this car will be forever remembered as the first car w/ "that awesome rev matching feature"... do you want to be one of the bozos who opted out of that? seriously - just drive w/ it on... and convince yourself already....

RCGsupra 04-04-2010 05:32 PM

Is it just me, or is the SRM not perfect? It seems that whenever I use it it's not very smooth, especially when downshifting while braking. I found that I have to let the clutch out very fast to make it as smooth as possible. Most of the time I am smoother doing heal toe myself. With that being said, I still use it most of the time. Sometimes I turn it off just to do something different I guess.

BalanBro 04-04-2010 05:41 PM

It's a great feature, no doubt. That said, I will probably avoid using it for the sole reason of keeping my driving skills in line.

I am sure if I rely on this all the time, I will start to completely suck at driving other manual cars. Can you imagine accidently relasing the clutch like that in a car without SRM during spirited driving? I assure you it will be a VERY embarassing (and potentially dangerous) experience.

6MT 04-04-2010 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 480181)
LOL.....:bowrofl:. Yeah, so can I, but after 45 years of Rev matching downshifts, I find the SRM awesome.....YOU can ignore the technology here, whine about the electronic nannies, Yada yada, but in the end it is an excellent system that can make you a better driver..(but that's really up to you, isn't it??)......

:icon18::iagree::bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

PapoZalsa 04-04-2010 07:23 PM

It has been on since day one, once you get used to it you don't even notice it.

speedworks 04-04-2010 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RCGsupra (Post 480451)
Is it just me, or is the SRM not perfect? It seems that whenever I use it it's not very smooth, especially when downshifting while braking. I found that I have to let the clutch out very fast to make it as smooth as possible. Most of the time I am smoother doing heal toe myself. With that being said, I still use it most of the time. Sometimes I turn it off just to do something different I guess.

Agree 100%. This is why I don't use it. It seems to engage a little higher then perfect, giving a little jerk. I blip the throttle myself on daily driving.

theDreamer 04-04-2010 07:31 PM

Never have issues with it over doing its rev matching, are you making sure you are not trying to "help" it because I did that at first and it screws up the whole SRM system.
It takes a bit of getting use to, but if you let SRM have its bit of control it makes a world of difference.

speedworks 04-04-2010 07:49 PM

No 'help' here, I've been driving the car for 15 months. It appears to be a few 100's higher, and I notice it most during braking situations.

RCGsupra 04-04-2010 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by speedworks (Post 480741)
No 'help' here, I've been driving the car for 15 months. It appears to be a few 100's higher, and I notice it most during braking situations.

yup, exacty what i am experiencing.

Jeffblue 05-12-2010 01:52 PM

ok i'm not sure if what i'm doing is 'helping' the srm or not, but i'm not sure why my shifts aren't smooth. When its on, and i upshift lets say from 2-3, it doesn't let the revs below what they need to be for 3rd gear at a given speed. should that mean i let the clutch out quickly, or with a little finesse at the end. i feel like if i give it a little gas as i re-engage the clutch, which is what i would normally do, it becomes jerky. so basically what i'm asking is this:

If SRM is on and i upshift, do i let the clutch out slowly or quickly, and should i give it any gas before the clutch is fullly re-engaged?

Also, when i downshift with SRM on, should i let the clutch out slowly or quickly? should i give it any gas or not until the clutch is full re-engaged?

Matt 05-12-2010 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 534752)

If SRM is on and i upshift, do i let the clutch out slowly or quickly, and should i give it any gas before the clutch is fullly re-engaged?
Also, when i downshift with SRM on, should i let the clutch out slowly or quickly? should i give it any gas or not until the clutch is full re-engaged?


- When you're upshifting, the clutch shouldn't need to be let out slowly at all. It should, however, be smoothly let out (but quick still). There's no reason to give it gas before the clutch is out on up shift, but right at the point of engagement is ideal. You should never be close to "riding the clutch" as you upshift at 5 or 6k RPMs. SRM should have no impact on when or how long to "clutch" during upshifts. SRM during upshifts just ensures the RPMs are kept steady, and is only noticeable if you're a slow shifter.

- Depends on how you're downshifting. If you're downshifting to a stop, speed change, or upcoming turn, there's no need to give it gas until necessary (speeding back up). SRM will make the downshift smooth by keeping RPMs stable during the shift, instead of a normal car where your RPMs may jump from 2.5k to 4k during a downshift, causing an uncomfortable jerk.

If you're downshifting to speed up or get out of a sticky situation, the clutch and gas pedal movement should be similar to an upshift...quick and smooth.

Push370zzz 05-12-2010 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by U-NVmyZ? (Post 480137)
how many of u guys with the sport pack. use the SRM? i've been reading about some small issues with it. i wont need the SRM, cuz i like my downshifts, but is it something thats cool to use or does it just get played out?

thanx

Used it all the time when I first got it, but in daily driving I kind of hate it...reason is because at the top of a hill I always go into neutral and every time it revs up like crazy. I have no trouble matching downshifts for a gear or two (4th/5th to 2nd is kinda hard to get right) so I only turn it on if I know I'm driving with a little more spirit.

zZSportZz 05-13-2010 06:10 AM

Its always on. I've turned it off once for ***** and giggles. I love it. I want my next car to have it.

ZKindaGuy 05-13-2010 07:20 AM

I believe the SRM actually robs potential torque (and maybe some HP) when its 'ON'. The reason I say this is because I have noticed whenever I used it that the car has a noticeable decrease in throttle response and makes the performance feels overall sluggish. I SOTP tested this out on at least a dozen occassions and I am almost positive this is happening. I wish there was a tangible way to determine if having SRM 'ON' actually is doing something to the engine output.

SiXK 05-13-2010 07:31 AM

Its an awesome, very unique feature. I use it all the time. Great in traffic or out on a twisty road by yourself.

Not its real purpose but one of the little things that's cool is the little 'grunt' rev it gives at low speeds when you turn into a parking lot or something. Inside the car it sounds real cool. outside? don't know or care, I'm inside the car.

Jeffblue 05-13-2010 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt (Post 535559)
- When you're upshifting, the clutch shouldn't need to be let out slowly at all. It should, however, be smoothly let out (but quick still). There's no reason to give it gas before the clutch is out on up shift, but right at the point of engagement is ideal. You should never be close to "riding the clutch" as you upshift at 5 or 6k RPMs. SRM should have no impact on when or how long to "clutch" during upshifts. SRM during upshifts just ensures the RPMs are kept steady, and is only noticeable if you're a slow shifter.

- Depends on how you're downshifting. If you're downshifting to a stop, speed change, or upcoming turn, there's no need to give it gas until necessary (speeding back up). SRM will make the downshift smooth by keeping RPMs stable during the shift, instead of a normal car where your RPMs may jump from 2.5k to 4k during a downshift, causing an uncomfortable jerk.

If you're downshifting to speed up or get out of a sticky situation, the clutch and gas pedal movement should be similar to an upshift...quick and smooth.

Ok what about low speeds. if i am shifting at lower rpms like around 2-2500, on a local street, only getting from gears 1 through 3 between stop signs, should i release the clutch slowly and smoothly, if the revs are matched perfectly do i still need to do this? or should i just drive the car exactly as i normally would if it didn't have srm.

hide187 05-13-2010 09:09 AM

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Ok what about low speeds. if i am shifting at lower rpms like around 2-2500, on a local street, only getting from gears 1 through 3 between stop signs, should i release the clutch slowly and smoothly, if the revs are matched perfectly do i still need to do this? or should i just drive the car exactly as i normally would if it didn't have srm.
I match my shifting to my type of driving. So if I am creeping in neighborhoods or in traffic I shift medium slow and completely smooth. If I am spirited driving I almost push it to the floor and release the clutch immediately. Leave the clutch at the floor and it will show you your revs, even upshifting. Meet the gas at the engagement point=smooth as butter shifts.

RCZ 05-13-2010 09:22 AM

all day every day everytime i drive it, no problems ever.


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