That's kinda a rule of life! It's a dog eat dog world.

I found it a bit depressing when I looked in this months Modified Magazine and saw a Hyundai Genesis Coupe with the 3.8l V6. It was bolt on mods and a tune to the tune of 310whp 296trq..wtf..296trq N/A !? Where is the Z going wrong !?!?!?


EDIT: Sorry to get off topic but I didn't wanna start a new thread and I kinda feel this is sorta in the same category as Z compared to XXX and how disappointing, power wise, the Z is stacking up.

Hey we were trashing Mustangs ,start a hyundiai trash thread :rofl2:

Very impressive offering by Ford. Numbers do look very nice on paper.

I'm sure this car is very fast in the 1/4, .94 G's on the skidpad doesn't tell the whole story about handling, a lot of it is attributed to the tires.

If I recall the 3000GT VR4 used to pull some mightly impressive numbers on the skipad, over .90 G's also. In real life it's a handful in the twisties, mainly due to its weight. I have a feeling it will be the same for this Mustang, Fast in a straight line, handling looks good on paper but in real life it will be nowhere near as enjoyable tossing around or precise as a 370Z. I could be totally wrong also. ;)

If you get the stang you will be one of those guys trying to figure out which car is yours in the parking lot. They are and always will be a dime a dozen. Too common and too plain looking inside and out. What are they estimating the 2011 0 60 and 1/4 mile times to be?

I will test drive one, and who knows.

I love my Z, but the 5.0L gives me wood. When it comes times for a second car, that will be it.

You know this is just a thought but, if you want to buy a car based on numbers & how fast it goes why would you even be thinking about a $30,000+ mustang? If you want to get 0-60 under 4.3 seconds go buy a old camaro throw a SC and other goodies on it and you will have spent less than $30,000 for a FASTER car. It doesnt bother me that these new cars are faster than a 370z. IMO people dont buy 370z because of their 0-60 times or its 1/4 mile times.

They but it because it is a 370z

As soon as you buy the Gt, camaro or some else will come out with one that has even more hp. It's a game.

Uhh never been a stang or domestic type of guy, but I'll give props to the whole retro styling as the stang, looks wise, has made a come back. That being said is it still running a live axle? Wasn't that a point of frustration with the stang?

http://image.motortrend.com/f/285826...T-interior.jpg

I pulled this picture up and asked a few coworkers to guess what year mustang interior this is. They all said between the late 80's and early 90's. It's the 2011 Mustang's interior... That's just pathetic design.

You're not the only one man!

I don't mean anything personal about this, but your coworkers know nothing about cars, do they?

Why would I take it personally that you think my coworkers are dumb? :P

Look at the interior though. Take away the Nav screen and it looks like it's from the 80's, even to me. My dream car is a 1993 Mustang GT 5.0, and it's interior is almost identical.

Here's a 1992 LX interior, which is not far from the GT's interior in 1992 (sorry for the large picture). Are you saying it's not pathetically similar?

http://image.mustangandfords.com/f/2...t_interior.jpg

Sorry Matt, I fail to see it. The interior is supposed to be retro, but I don't see it here.