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Pharmacist 03-28-2010 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick911sc (Post 468994)
But is this feature on manual transmission cars? (Heel and toe comes to mind)

yes it is also on manual cars, i tried it myself. and yes, you can still heel and toe just fine, i tried it myself. i don't know how it happens but i'm guessing maybe pushing the clutch pedal overrides the throttle cut off.

nottoohappy 03-28-2010 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick911sc (Post 468994)
But is this feature on manual transmission cars? (Heel and toe comes to mind)

Can heel and toe for sure, but I'm not sure what happens when the clutch isn't pressed.

But uhh, here's a picture of the start of the corner. I went back and checked out where it all happened. I did NOT nip the corner as I first thought. It was my only logical explanation as to why my TCS would have lit up. So, now I'm completely clueless to be honest.

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/1930/cimg0699.jpg


Coincidentally a grounded power line right there. But, I have a hard time believing it's the cause myself. We'll find out soon :D

kannibul 03-28-2010 11:14 AM

The wheel spin sensors aren't that shielded from EMI - maybe they're feeding bad data...same with the gyros in the car which tell it which way the driver is intending to go vs where the car is heading.

kenchan 03-28-2010 11:22 AM

i donno, some times people think they are on the brakes while they are hitting the gas while they smash into stores and poles and crowds of people.

VCuomo 03-28-2010 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 468959)
worth noting though that nissan has the electronic throttle cutoff feature where the throttle shuts if the brake is pressed, even if the throttle pedal is pressed. did this feature also malfunction? that could hint at the source of the problem.

Just out of curiosity, what's your source of that info? Since the Toyota debacle, I've been wondering whether or not the 370Z has a brake override.

semtex 03-28-2010 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by VCuomo (Post 469267)
Just out of curiosity, what's your source of that info? Since the Toyota debacle, I've been wondering whether or not the 370Z has a brake override.

Just Google it.

Per After Toyota Troubles, U.S. Weighs ?Smart Pedals? in All Cars - NYTimes.com

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The override system is meant to deactivate the accelerator when the brake pedal is pressed.

Often called a “smart pedal,” the feature is now installed in many automobiles sold worldwide, including models from BMW, Chrysler, Mercedes-Benz, Nissan and Volkswagen.
Per Japan carmakers studying brake override system | Reuters

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Nissan Motor (7201.T), held 44 percent by France's Renault (RENA.PA), is the only Japanese carmaker that has a function on nearly all of its cars that prioritises the brakes when both pedals are depressed. This excludes 660cc minivehicles sold in Japan under the Nissan badge and cars produced by other automakers on an original equipment manufacturing (OEM) basis.

VCuomo 03-28-2010 04:27 PM

Gotcha, but I'm wondering if there's anything documented that the 370Z has the override. I would think that it would be mentioned in the Users Manual if the Z had it, but it's not (as far as I know).

semtex 03-28-2010 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by VCuomo (Post 469357)
Gotcha, but I'm wondering if there's anything documented that the 370Z has the override. I would think that it would be mentioned in the Users Manual if the Z had it, but it's not (as far as I know).

Yeah I don't recall seeing it mentioned in the manual, but FWIW, over in this thread http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...l-a7-370z.html I've seen it mentioned that you can't launch the 7AT by standing on the brakes with your left foot while depressing the throttle with your right due to the override.

Mike 03-28-2010 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 469414)
Yeah I don't recall seeing it mentioned in the manual, but FWIW, over in this thread http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...l-a7-370z.html I've seen it mentioned that you can't launch the 7AT by standing on the brakes with your left foot while depressing the throttle with your right due to the override.

I don't know if thats really a brake override. You can't rev the manual in neutral over a couple thousand rpm either, brakes on or off.

Pushing_Tin 03-28-2010 05:45 PM

Sorry to read about this. I have the exact same setup as you, but my car is an early build. I've never had an issue thankfully.

nottoohappy 03-28-2010 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 469438)
I don't know if thats really a brake override. You can't rev the manual in neutral over a couple thousand rpm either, brakes on or off.

I could redline in neutral. That I'm sure of. You can't?

theDreamer 03-28-2010 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by nottoohappy (Post 469459)
I could redline in neutral. That I'm sure of. You can't?

The car only revs to 5k in neutral.

WShade 03-28-2010 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 469461)
The car only revs to 5k in neutral.

Really? I have never tried, not that I want to. But, really. Car has a factory 2 step. :tup:

theDreamer 03-28-2010 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by WShade (Post 469490)
Really? I have never tried, not that I want to. But, really. Car has a factory 2 step. :tup:

When making a video with my Berk exhaust we hit the limiter, that was the first I had ever seen of it.

semtex 03-28-2010 06:46 PM

Mine revs to 4k in neutral, if I remember correctly. When I made my exhaust vids (the stationary ones) I had to put it into 1st and keep my foot on the clutch to rev up towards redline.


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