What!!!! No ashtray

Nick911sc · 03-25-2010, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

They don't tax tobacco because it's bad for you. It's a Excise (consumption) tax, much like the tax on alcohol or gasoline... and soon, if there is a God, marijuana.

Yes...but excise taxes are put in place in order to discourage purchase of goods.

And if the Gov't was smart they would legalize pot and make a shitload of money off of it.

370Zsteve · 03-25-2010, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick911sc

Yes...but excise taxes are put in place in order to discourage purchase of goods.

And if the Gov't was smart they would legalize pot and make a shitload of money off of it.

Yes they would! But those consumption taxes, they are in palce because they know people will always buy booze, and gasoline, etc, it discourages nothing w00t

Zsteve · 03-25-2010, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

Yes they would! But those consumption taxes, they are in palce because they know people will always buy booze, and gasoline, etc, it discourages nothing w00t

can we say "MONEY MONEY MONEY"

370Zsteve · 03-25-2010, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick911sc

Yes...but excise taxes are put in place in order to discourage purchase of goods.

And if the Gov't was smart they would legalize pot and make a shitload of money off of it.

Wiki:

In defence of excises on strong drink, Adam Smith wrote: "It has for some time past been the policy of Great Britain to discourage the consumption of spirituous liquors, on account of their supposed tendency to ruin the health and to corrupt the morals of the common people."^[6] Samuel Johnson was less flattering in his 1755 dictionary: "EXCI'SE. n.s. ... A hateful tax levied upon commodities, and adjudged not by the common judges of property, but wretches hired by those to whom excise is paid."^[7]

kannibul · 03-25-2010, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

They don't tax tobacco because it's bad for you. It's a Excise (consumption) tax, much like the tax on alcohol or gasoline... and soon, if there is a God, marijuana.

That is true, however, they probably will with the healthcare bill.

In fact, if they don't, I'd be surprised.

tjlazer · 03-25-2010, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by NISSNISS370Z

Not that im a smoker but I want a place to put my change rather than putting it in the center counsole or in the cup holder. Actually, im very surprise that it doesnt have one just because smokers are going to smoke and if they dont have a place to put there "butts" they would toss them out the window and potentially start a fire and/or litter. Does anybody know why they didnt come equiped with one?......just curious

The sign of the times bro. It's about time too. Only ~20% of people smoke (in the US anyway) so why should there be an "Ash" tray in the car? LOL I'm glad I don't have a cancer stick recipticle in my Z. It's actually nice.

For spare change I use a cup Cell holder. There are all kinds out there.

kenchan · 03-25-2010, 04:20 PM

im glad they are banning smoking from a lot of restaurants. nothing worse than having a great meal getting ruined by smoke.

tjlazer · 03-25-2010, 04:44 PM

With all this talk of smoking and Z's... I couldn't resist!

Nick911sc · 03-25-2010, 07:31 PM

Someone who agrees with me rep+

Nick911sc · 03-25-2010, 07:51 PM

Yea, but to be honest I don't like the government involved in who's doing what with their lives.

Dwight Frye · 03-25-2010, 08:12 PM

Back on topic...... my G35 had an ashtray which I used to store a folded up Swiffer duster cloth to use on the dash when it needed it. I now store that in the glovebox. The G35 also had a little space in the center console that was shaped to hold 6 or 8 quarters, a handy thing to have when you have to feed a parking meter. Now I keep a few bucks worth of quarters in a plastic film can (those of us old enough to remember 35mm film remember those right ?) in my center console. No ashtray is not a big deal since most people don't smoke like the population used to, but the scarcity of storage space in the 370Z makes every little cubbyhole valuable.
As a side note, the first 370Z I saw at a dealer showroom must have been a repo or demo, it had about 5K miles on it already and I wasn't interested. When I opened the door to check out the interior I was sickened by the cigarette odor in the cloth upholstery. I told the salesman that they ought to invest $100 for a professional detailer to get that smell out if they planned on selling the car.

Danny3.7 · 03-25-2010, 08:14 PM

My 05 g35 coupe had an ashtray, and all did even in 07. I don't know about the g37, it's not something i even looked for when i drove one, and No i don't smoke either.. freakin gross, X-P

Nick911sc · 03-25-2010, 08:14 PM

Surprised no one mentioned the lack of a cigarette lighter along with the lack of ashtray. But I could have missed that.

IDZRVIT · 03-25-2010, 08:15 PM

FWIW, I quit smoking over six years ago. I am healthier and my clothes don't stink anymore. Now I will be one of those guys who lives longer, end up in a nursing home, bed ridden and unable to get an erection. Wait, what's wrong with this picture?

Smallywood · 03-25-2010, 08:25 PM

I don't care if you smoke in your car, just don't do it in mine...

If you get "freebies", then you got ripped off...

Take your shoes off in my house... or I'll break you...

03-25-2010, 08:15 PM	#14 (permalink)
IDZRVIT A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Halifax Posts: 1,659 Drives: '13 CTS-V, '76 Vette Rep Power: 28	FWIW, I quit smoking over six years ago. I am healthier and my clothes don't stink anymore. Now I will be one of those guys who lives longer, end up in a nursing home, bed ridden and unable to get an erection. Wait, what's wrong with this picture? __________________ "America.... still builds rockets!" Vette: 355 cid, 400 rwhp '13 CTS-V Coupe: 6.2L LSA, 556HP

03-25-2010, 08:25 PM	#15 (permalink)
Smallywood Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 501 Drives: 12 GT-R BlackEdition Rep Power: 18	I don't care if you smoke in your car, just don't do it in mine... If you get "freebies", then you got ripped off... Take your shoes off in my house... or I'll break you... __________________

03-25-2010, 04:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	im glad they are banning smoking from a lot of restaurants. nothing worse than having a great meal getting ruined by smoke.

03-25-2010, 07:31 PM	#9 (permalink)
Nick911sc A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 1,698 Drives: 2010 Nissan GT-R Rep Power: 21	Someone who agrees with me rep+

03-25-2010, 07:51 PM	#10 (permalink)
Nick911sc A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 1,698 Drives: 2010 Nissan GT-R Rep Power: 21	Yea, but to be honest I don't like the government involved in who's doing what with their lives.

03-25-2010, 08:12 PM	#11 (permalink)
Dwight Frye Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Occupied California Posts: 423 Drives: '09 Tour/Sport/6MT Rep Power: 17	Back on topic...... my G35 had an ashtray which I used to store a folded up Swiffer duster cloth to use on the dash when it needed it. I now store that in the glovebox. The G35 also had a little space in the center console that was shaped to hold 6 or 8 quarters, a handy thing to have when you have to feed a parking meter. Now I keep a few bucks worth of quarters in a plastic film can (those of us old enough to remember 35mm film remember those right ?) in my center console. No ashtray is not a big deal since most people don't smoke like the population used to, but the scarcity of storage space in the 370Z makes every little cubbyhole valuable. As a side note, the first 370Z I saw at a dealer showroom must have been a repo or demo, it had about 5K miles on it already and I wasn't interested. When I opened the door to check out the interior I was sickened by the cigarette odor in the cloth upholstery. I told the salesman that they ought to invest $100 for a professional detailer to get that smell out if they planned on selling the car.

03-25-2010, 08:14 PM	#12 (permalink)
Danny3.7 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: West Palm Beach, FL Age: 44 Posts: 296 Drives: 09 370Z MB 6MT T/S Rep Power: 17	My 05 g35 coupe had an ashtray, and all did even in 07. I don't know about the g37, it's not something i even looked for when i drove one, and No i don't smoke either.. freakin gross, X-P

03-25-2010, 08:14 PM	#13 (permalink)
Nick911sc A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 1,698 Drives: 2010 Nissan GT-R Rep Power: 21	Surprised no one mentioned the lack of a cigarette lighter along with the lack of ashtray. But I could have missed that.