I drive a Bimmer, and I hate most Bimmer drivers. Nothing says I'm fresh out of college with a $60k a year job like a leased 3 series, and the terrible sense of entitlement that comes along with it. Nothing like being bred by Motor Trend, Car & Driver, and Road & Track to think they are god while spitting off all the remarks like "laser accurate steering, balanced handling, and high quality interiors."

Modern BMW's are GARBAGE. They've lost many aspects that used to make the car special. Now they are as uninvolving to drive as a Toyota, have interiors that are outclassed by almost everyone, and relentless electronic nannies. Snap the throttle closed to try and kill the relentless understeer mid corner? Nope, the electronic throttle knows that might get the back end loose, so it'll slowly close the throttle (well, actually change the intake lift). Enjoy your heaps of understeer.

Steering feel? Drive a well sorted E36. Balance? Drive an E34. Sound? Drive an E34 M5. Comfort? Drive an E38. Want the best of everything? Drive an E39. Euro snobbery is so passe, and it scream's I have no idea what the hell I'm talking about.

*Disclaimer* I used to be a BMW nuthugger when I was a teenager, and then I grew up, and realized I was missing out on a whole world of wonderful cars. First car I didn't like because I was an idiot was the 350Z, and after I spent some time in it, realized what an idiot I had been. Sadly most BMW douches aren't that wise, and don't grow out of that phase.

Excellent! :tup:

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LOL! nice post brendan. :D

You know,

This guy just posted in the other thread, and I was agreeing with him until the last part of his comment.

"I agree 370z is a good car. Same goes for S2000 and other Honda/Acura cars like Integra and RSX. You get money's worth for Honda/Acura in every part which shines with quality unlike BMW where you are definitely paying an extra premium for the brand name itself.

Many Honda/Acura 'ricers' are at least very knowledgeable people who know about cars and they just can't afford the more expensive sports cars and they just want to make their cars as good as their liking with the money they have.

My main problem is with G37 and 350z/370z drivers. G37 seems to attract sleek hair-gel young sons of rich men who mousse their hair all the way back and who don't know squat about cars while Z seems to attract mainly high school wannabe kids. Both are excellent cars but I would be ashamed as hell being seen in them.

If I wanted a personal street race / fun-only car, I would opt for either latest Z4 with dual-clutch or Evo X MR. Evo and their drivers are very respectable. "

When I think of young BMW owners I think what he thinks about G owners. lol

well, bmw attracts people who love wife swapping parties :bowrofl:

Yes ... evo drivers are respectable... HAHAHHAHAHAHa

LOL, I sold my B5 S4 TT for the chance to finally own a Z. I loved the 350's but couldn't afford them at the time (owned a 95 GSX) but when I walked into the showroom February 09 it was a done deal in 15 minutes.

Comparing a 30k Japaneses sports car to a 50K luxury sedan is being obtuse.

As for the comment of "18yo's attracting girls", how about all those Audi/BMW driver's who spend half their earning trying to do the same...

QUOTE: G37 seems to attract sleek hair-gel young sons of rich men who mousse their hair all the way back and who don't know squat about cars while Z seems to attract mainly high school wannabe kids. Both are excellent cars but I would be ashamed as hell being seen in them.

I could most likely have afforded about any sports car I wanted (well, exotics aside...) and I specifically chose the Z because I am proud as hell to be seen in it for the car that it is.

The Z speaks loudly for itself even while simply standing still. I like that.

And the ricer comment made me laugh. I'm an almost 40 year old ricer chick?! ha..that is funny.

Yeah, I don't get it. I'm not sure who the car screams ricer too at all outside of people like this. I've been told exactly the opposite, lol. On the other hand, go ask a random person what they think of BMW drivers... :stirthepot:

I've had the same sentiment about my 370Z repeated to me nearly every time a person sees it for the first time:

CLASSY.

I did have a real estate agent, when we drove it to Laughlin a few months back, ask me what kind of car it was. I told him it was a Nissan and he looked a little surprised at first and then said, "That is a very "rich looking" car" (whatever that means..lol) I just smiled and thanked him.

Z=class. 240-370.

The guy making the review came off kinda snobby to me. Like he went in there looking to rag on Nissan from the getgo....Get off ur damn high horse.

He just posted this LOL

"Japanese peak horsepower numbers are really misleading, or German horsepower is really understated. 2xx hp boxsters pull with 3xx hp nissans. I don't know if they have inefficient drivetrains or what, but I've never been impressed. My 325i was competitive against 350z on the track, even on straightaways. "

Broad powerbands are a big part of it, but again... :nutswinger::nutswinger::nutswinger:

Best part is 95% of BMW drivers I've met (and I've been active on forums for years) couldn't drive their way out of a wet paper bag, yet they're all gods gift to driving under a very thin veil of humility. Lotus guys on the other hand, are usually humble about their driving abilities, and tend not to talk down about other cars. Interesting how either a car's community will corrupt you (or maybe those people are just attracted to those cars?)

What did you expect when going into the bmw fourms?? They all think they drive ferrari's over there. I feel bad for the aftermarket companies having to deal with these fl_lck heads.