dead stop from 2nd
I'm new to manuals but coming along pretty well, but is there a negative to keeping it in 2nd at a stoplight, a friend of mine says as long as there's enough power it doesn't hurt it any way. True statement?
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its not really bad just a little bit harder to start than in first.
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I'm not sure I'm reading this correctly. You can come to a stop in any gear, so long as the clutch is depressed. I hardly ever come to a stop in 1st gear, unless I simply having shifted out of it (neighborhood stop signs, etc.).
If you mean starting in 2nd from a completely stop, it is not recommended. |
theres no way you will be able to start it from second without burning your clutch more than you would by starting in first, even if it is fractional amount, it'll add up in the end
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i thought people do this when driving in snow or very slippery surfaces? AK does this in his snow video at 0:42
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so you're not wearing your clutch starting in 2nd in the snow... but if you do it dry you are? what makes this so?
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i see. thanks. Well i wont have to worry about that till next winter :)
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Starting in 2nd is pretty easy in these cars, just need to give it 1500-2k rpm instead of 1k-1500 (give or take)
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You can do it, but there's no reason to. It's going to be harder on the clutch than in first.
BTW -- this reminds me of Jeremy Clarkson going from 0-170ish in a Z06... in 6th gear only. |
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And, driving in snow, starting in 1st is still the better choice. Feather the clutch a bit and don't use the gas.
That said, the car has VDC, use it, and it should get some traction...except it might break both loose and then you're spinning. Me, I just kick it to 4WD and hit hte gas and I'm off, but then again, I don't drive my Z in the winter. $40,000 car in a ditch, or side-skipping into a curb, or spinning around the wrong way on an interstate ramp...sure sounds good, doesn't it? $800 POS in a ditch, hitting a curb, or spinning around the wrong way on an interstate ramp - sounds a lot better, doesn't it? It's like those people around here that drive a corvette in winter...I don't get it. |
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:facepalm: Here we go again (:), I'm saying all this in good humor). The guy who refuses to drive his Z in the snow is giving advice on how to do it properly! :stirthepot: Kannibul's soap box for preaching on proper selection of winter cars is getting worn out. :wtf2: Agreeing Kannibul though (not on a right/wrong basis but just necessity basis): Being a 'real' Z snow driver, I've found that starting in 1st gear is perfectly fine with snow tires. You have to be more delicate with clutch release and throttle, but starting in 2nd is by no means necessary. If you can make a car spin (both in circles and spin the rear tires for more than 2 seconds) from a dead stop in snow with VDC turned ON, you're amazingly bad at driving and have somehow defeated the granny-driver-inducing VDC. Kannibul's rebuttle to be inserted below...:) |
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if my car is rolling, even slightly, i would consider using 2nd gear (no need to blip, just engage the clutch gently) but from a standstill i would just use 1st gear.
if my car is rolling considerbly obviously i would rev match before engaging. |
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FWIW, I've never replaced a clutch in anything I've owned, except in the rare case where I've already dropped the tranny so I'll replace whatever else is in there while it's all apart. |
yea... not everyone can afford to have seasonal cars. I'd hope anyone driving a sports car in the snow at least has the right tires for the season.
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After having a 90 300ZX as a daily driver for 5yrs I made sure to have bad weather car this time around. I sold my 300ZX in 2003 when I bought a brand new Jeep Liberty Renegade. 142k on the odometer and still purring and awesome in the snow/rain. I hope I never get caught driving my new Z in the snow!!!
Edit: Oh by the way, mult-car discount when insuring 2 cars for 1 driver! |
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