Edmunds Wraps Up 12 Months with the 370Z
 

Edmunds wrapped up their 12 months with the 370Z.
What I found interesting is their experience with the cars braking ability.
Sounds like it may support the problems Car and Driver noted during their Lightning Lap issue.
Road noise was also a main concern for them. The write up claims that Nissan is addressing the issue for future Z's.
They also apparently somehow broke the transmission, which needed replacing.

Can you post a link or scan?

A few interesting things in there:

1) they are babies and continue to whine about NVH and road noise. Give me a break already.

2) their oil cooler started to leak and had to be repaired. Make this #4 in terms of oil cooler problems documented.

3) Edmunds is full of retards. So the older car was slower to 60 and in the 1/4mi, but they claim it took more effort to do those runs? What does that mean? If they would have given more effort when the car was new, it would have been faster? Oh, and let's complain about decreased performance when the tires are worn out...stupid stupid stupid.

4) unfortunately they don't describe the braking conditions at all. This could easily be brake fade during aggressive driving that they are noticing. Enough of us have tracked the car to know that erratic brakes are not the norm.

5) Only Edmunds would think that 'air extractors' make for all the road noise and not the bare metal rear hatch floor and non-insulated wheel liners.

Essentially, an Edmunds review is equivalent to me asking my mother to drive the car and then explain everything she notices.

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I don't even bother with reviews, I drive a Z, because I love the design, so that I have a decent base and I can upgrade anything I don't like. Not many cars like that are out there.

I would say you can do that with any car. All cars can be upgraded. I love the design too, to me one of their best lookings Z so far.

Try finding the same amount of aftermarket stuff for an Audi A5...
There isn't that much out there...

I think even the G37 community is happy the 370 arrived as now they get more stuff for their cars as well...

I read Edmunds' long-term tests often, and I was really disappointed to see they didn't even drive their 370Z for 20K miles, which is one of the goals of the long-term test.

I guess there weren't enough people willing to take it on 'long' trips like to Vegas.

Also got sick of the negative comments. There were some good ones, however. Erin Riches has a post daring readers to find a better V6 for the money right here:

2009 Nissan 370Z: Go Ahead, Name a Better V6 in This Price Range

you forgot to add the "down time" they experienced cuz they damaged the rear bumper and took it in for repairs.

i wonder whose f'ing fault that was :rolleyes:
don't blame nissan cuz u don't know how to drive

oil cooler leaking?!?!?!? edmunds installer error!!! nismo oil cooler is not factory installed and not warrantied. i guess they had to blame someone else for it :rolleyes:

i would think ppl would know that sports cars = noise, take ferarri for example, that thing is loud, but no one complains

i still dont know why people are complaining about road noise. it's not quiet but it's not THAT loud. ive had cars in the past that were a lot louder.

^^ i agree, this is by far quieter than my last car

13.7 1/4 mile times ????
Thats not good.

You have to give it time, I had an Audi TT 2.0T and it took awhile for things to come out just the Z. Now there wont be parts like for a honda thats for sure.

there arent even that many parts out for the new hondas..the newer body style civic si has as much stuff out as the z.

sure isn't, edmunds is the suck.

Edmunds has never been known to get the best 1/4 mile times out of cars.....:eekdance:

I can't believe they trash it so much for road noise. Really?

I like how they admit how silly this is and yet continue to whine about it.

As far as times are concerned, Motortrend has professional drivers, so out of all the mags, I trust their numbers the most.

I like my 370Z, PERIOD!!!!!!!!

I don't even own a 370z and I like it. Road noise, you gotta be kidding. These "experts" will be really whining when the mfg improves this car like they did when the introduced the 280zx.

geez.... man up edmunds....

Especially like the closing line. :)

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The 8th generation Civic has been around since 2006 and they JUST got engine management less than a year ago. At this rate, if you want something with a huge aftermarket following, go buy a Prius/Insight. Those seem to be the rage these days. :ugh2:

Road noise? If they want to compare road noise, they are welcome to go for a spin in my 1972 Corvette - the Z is whisper quiet compared to it. And I have driven my Corvette from SoCal up to the Bay Area and back (approx. 8 hour trip each way) and didn't suffer any lasting effects from that.

The Z is perfectly fine in the road noise/NVH department, thank you very much!

all sports cars will be somewhat noisy due to skinny tires, stiff suspension and chassis, minimal sound insulation, etc..........

is it that the z is unusually noisy for a sports car or is it that most editors are used to lumbering luxury suv and sedans and are not used to the noise? i mean cars like a corvette, viper, f430, s2000, etc are they less noisy than the z?

My Z is quieter than my ex's G35 coupe.

Rocks being thrown in the rear wells are a different story, but overall the Z is the winner.

Aha, it's like with the woman you love...You KNOW she has defects, since she's human, but you love her anyway, huh? Same with our Zs. Still in love with her after all these years!

that's kinda odd. my G35C is quieter but the stock exhaust note is louder than my stock Z.

Werd.... I JUST took a spirited drive in my Z. I LOVE the sound of even the stock Z at low and high RPMs. I do not know what all the complaints are about. I cannot WAIT until i get my CAI and exhaust done. She will sound out-freakin-standing then!!! :tup:

I love driving the Z for the engine sound and aggressive punch at high revs. EDMUNDS seems to review every type of car like they are supposed to be family sedans or something. The only time they ever have any accurate reviews is when they drive muscle cars. So obviously not only are they unskilled in driving various types of cars. They only seem to be able to get accurate times from mustang and camaro ONLY! Has corporate sponsorship tainted all reviews? Or is edmunds just that dumb?
I know muscle car v8's tend to give more steady times. No skill is needed to make them go fast. Just slam on the gas. 4 bangers n 6's need a little more trickery on the stick or paddles to really make em fly. Edmunds can't master this skill for nothing.
I remember there gen coupe V6 review they got 0-60 in 6.4sec and 14.7 1/4 while in the same month MT gave it 5.5 and CD gave it 5.7 and both hit 14.0-14.2 range. At least with the Z the ratio wasn't as drastic. But edmunds always has some kind of crazy excuse for them not having comparable times to other publications.
One thing I have come to grips with though. Is corporate sponsorship outright controls reviews.
MT, loves NISSAN & HYUNDAI. C&D loves GM &BMW. Automobile magazine doesn't respect anything that's costs over $70k
I turned to a new source for my car reviews. The only magazine that has been 100% consistant to my test drives. (Though I still read the others to, I take what they write with a grain of salt) I read popular mechanics. A good group of guys there and they are car lovers. U get some str8 news and real criticisms without the in between comliment insult games that the major mags play.
I don't dismiss issues in major mags though. If they say the Z has a brake issue. I will say more than likely. There is some kind of issue. But it doesn't mean now the car is garbage. I myself don't like to buy 1st year newly engineered models till they have been proven. Something always goes wrong. With hyundai it was too many computer programs interchanging and causing ECU problems., infiniti had the battery and bubbling issues bmw always has something wrong and it seems the Z might have a brake issue on the sport package. But I know for sure, soon enough these issues will be moot. Sh1t happens.
The Z is still one of the greatest sub 50k cars out there

Overall Edmunds was disappointing with their reviews on the 370Z. They were mostly negative with a lot of stupid complaints.

You could tell they didn't like to drive it much compared to other cars in their fleet. They didn't blog about it as much as the other cars too.

Hello...still trying to decide what car to replace my 2000 I30 with. Torn between the G37 or the Z.

Thanks for the link to the review....but man they sure came down hard on the cabin noise!

I noticed that they had the sports upgrade. Do you think the noise is from the tires that come with the Sports Package?????

What is the difference in tires (size and brand) between the regular Z and the Z with the Sports Package? And do those here with the Sports upgrade notice more noise than those without it?

Thanks

I have an 09 370Z and don't know what road noise they are talking about. Yes, there is some, after all it's a sports car not a Caddy...hello. If i don't want ANY road noise all i have to do is crank up the Bose stereo.

I have the sports package and call BS on the noise issue. All i can say is go test drive one.

I love my 370Z ...period.

"Didn't get the sticker fuel milage in out tests... It apparently can vary with how it's driven". No Sh*t?
Consumer Guide also marked it down for being "tight inside" and having a "firm ride". Couldn't recommend. For who... grandma?
The thing is a true sport car that can G the panties off grandma. Hopfully she won't buy one. Firm ride... jeeez.

Look, I've heard it all, and to be truthful, my conclusion is the same after hearing it all, as it was when I decided to buy this beauty. I just love my 2010 370Z Roadster. Period! It is a beautiful automobile, and I can't tell you how happy I am to have one of my own.

I like to see all the mods some of you are doing to your Z, glad to see you're having so much fun with it, that's what it's supposed to be, been there done that myself. But personally, I don't want to change one thing about my Z. I got the Roadster with Touring with Nav, carpets and mud guards. I got just what I wanted, and I like it just the way it is.

I love driving the Z, I LOVE the sound - and what some call "noise," the look, the handling, the ride, the feel, and maybe most of all, just looking at, and admiring her.

I haven't driven MINE yet, but I have driven a friends 2010 Z Coupe a few times, and have taken many rides as passenger as well. Initially, I was very interested in the reviews, and for the most part, they've all been positive about the 370Z, and I was glad to hear that, but I have so much to look forward to, that I don't want to waste my time looking back, just forward, preferably with plenty of great roads in front of me. I still like watching all the video's though!

Just to address this sound thing. I have owned muscle cars, and I have owned sports cars. To me, the 370Z has combined the best of both cars into one. (maybe not to everyone, but it is to me) The hungry growl, that turns into a beastly roar when it needs to, is music to my ears. The Porsche has a nice sound, but too much of a sports car sound to suit me. The Mustang has that old throaty muscle car sound, but that's too muscle car for me. The Z has it all, in my book. So, let's not forget what a great automobile we have, no matter what someone else may say. When you have a car as great as the 370Z, who cares anyway?! And Edmunds.... have a nice day........boyz!
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In all fairness, this is the only car I've owned to not even come close to the sticker estimated MPG.

City and some small amount of highway driving combined, I'm at 17.8 mpg. I think the only time I saw even close to 26 (supposed highway driving) was going 55 mph in 6th gear at less than 2k RPMs. And even then my gauge only showed 22 mpg or something.

Don't get me wrong, I don't care if this thing gets 9 mpg, I'm driving it every day regardless.

Just maybe the 370Z is too much car for those boys. What real man would whine when she digs her nails into his back and screams fire when she's pushed hard!! Maybe they're more comfortable reviewing the fart-can's! You know, like attracts like........ LOL

Well after digesting that edmunds greenpeace review. I throw that mag aside and grab the Winding Road mag and read once again how we made it to # 1.