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m4a1mustang 02-22-2010 09:46 PM

Anyways, my guess would be making a left turn onto the access road at a good clip, a little too much throttle on exit... he tries to correct but the back end swings around and the car makes a half spin to the left, the right rear making contact with the curb first.

OR a failed attempt at a drift. You know how all the kids are out trying to drift these days!

nuTinmuch 02-22-2010 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nismo370 (Post 413173)
Smh noob...And i keep the vdc off most of the time. If it jumps out on me i counter steer...Whats the problem when its off? Some of u guys need a high performance driving class...smh...:shakes head:

http://www.bytewire.net/emot-dogout.gif

Jason 02-22-2010 09:54 PM

tokyo drift.

PapoZalsa 02-22-2010 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 412860)
VDC off huh?...:shakes head:

Thanks for keeping my insurance rates high.

Other than that, hope you get it fixed like new.

Learn car control, or don't push the button..

AGAIN, another one!!!!

Hope he is OK.

But the freaking insurance is going to go off the roof with all these 370s accidents. :shakes head:

roplusbee 02-22-2010 10:03 PM

Damn. Another one down????? These guys have got to calm down. I haven't even picked mine up yet and I'm nervous now. Not because of lack of skill, but because some knucklehead may be goofing off and wreck into me. Maybe I'll just keep it in the garage, lol.

Spec Jay 02-22-2010 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdbrich (Post 413294)
Number 3, Throw a dog in the road. And the fact I let a buddy drive it the night before. And Didn't realize he turned VDC off until I hit the curb. Otherwise I would have nailed the dog Knowing that.

i was about to defend you from the flamers till i saw this.

vdc defaults back on every time you turn on the car.

NYBladeZ 02-22-2010 10:30 PM

BS flag your buddy couldn't have turned it off and kept it off unless the car ran the whole night. Note to others keep the VDC on unless you know what you're doing. Sorry to hear about your accident, I'll say it here just as in previous threads, you can get it fixed but it won't feel 100% the same.

NYBladeZ 02-22-2010 10:31 PM

Oh and it's going to take FOREVER I think it took Juan about 4 months, very hard to get Nismo parts, hopefully done by June/July

FuszNissan 02-22-2010 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdbrich (Post 413294)
And the fact I let a buddy drive it the night before. And Didn't realize he turned VDC off until I hit the curb.

:icon18: VDC is always active when you start your car.

feelzpwr91 02-22-2010 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 412872)
I can't stress how important it is to get driving lessons on these cars. So many people disrespect the power of sports cars in general. I am glad no one was hurt. Spending the money on lessons is a good investment, also lets you know your limits with your car.
Just my .02

+1

m4a1mustang 02-22-2010 10:48 PM

Wasn't there a thread a while back where a guy claimed his mom wrecked his Z?

dad 02-22-2010 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 413321)
Wasn't there a thread a while back where a guy claimed his mom wrecked his Z?

I had to put my boots on every time I read that!

feelzpwr91 02-22-2010 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 413321)
Wasn't there a thread a while back where a guy claimed his mom wrecked his Z?

lol yea right here

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...smo-crash.html

Rybo 02-22-2010 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 413134)
so that's why my insurance is higher than my Fit... ;)

Ins is a funny thing. Whenever I get a 370 it will be cheaper to insure than my current Fit.

NYBladeZ 02-22-2010 11:08 PM

Yeah my insurance isn't that bad, pressing the VDC=4 months no car, what a thrill!

caneman88 02-22-2010 11:12 PM

$hit happens lot of power I drive sometimes without VDC on you just have to know your car and when to take your foot off the pedal!:stirthepot:

MeetJoeAsian 02-23-2010 01:42 AM

I take it the OP took down the pictures and original post? dang it...I wanna see...

alexpila 02-23-2010 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeetJoeAsian (Post 413442)
I take it the OP took down the pictures and original post? dang it...I wanna see...

yeah no pics???

Matt 02-23-2010 02:37 AM

While it takes some balls to own up to your own mistake (well, besides blaming it partially on a friend), you had to expect a little bit of flames from the self-righteous, perfect drivers on these boards. You know, the ones that have never sped, over-accelerated, under-steered, or made any other mistake behind the wheel of a performance car.

Hope the car is ok, and you avoid whatever mistakes you made in the future. Poor Nismo!

I learned my lesson the easy way with VDC. Went through a series of twists and turns without my VDC on (had NO idea exactly what it was going to do, and was thinking it would increase my accelerating capabilities). I almost lost control around a corner, but was able to countersteer and slow down a bit. I got off with just a little sweat on my forehead and a crappy feeling in the pit of my stomach. VDC has been left on to this day!

m4a1mustang 02-23-2010 06:18 AM

Yeah, seriously... just own up! Don't delete the pics and try to drop it on a friend. Wonder if we'll ever see the OP around here again (at least under that user name?).

IDZRVIT 02-23-2010 06:42 AM

Nah, it's not the fault of the VDC being on or off, it's Newton's fault. Him and his dang laws of physics. Disobey the law and you're done!

NyCSnEaK 02-23-2010 06:42 AM

1 Son. Stay down in bmore.

semtex 02-23-2010 07:07 AM

It's incidents like this that may convince car manufacturers to not even allow for VDC to be turned off in future models. Indeed, I believe there are already some cars in production that don't really allow for traction control to be fully disengaged, even after you've hit the button to turn it off. It's a shame that it only takes a few rotten apples to ruin things for everyone else.

spearfish25 02-23-2010 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 413262)
a failed attempt at a drift. You know how all the kids are out trying to drift these days!

Bingo! I'd put money on it. That's why most teenie boppers are turning off VDC to begin with.

NIZMOZ 02-23-2010 07:48 AM

He deleted all his previous posts. LOL!

m4a1mustang 02-23-2010 08:05 AM

That really sucks. All he had to do was admit his mistake, learn from it, and move on.

RCZ 02-23-2010 08:16 AM

forums can be a harsh place....mistakes? we don't allow mistakes here. Crash your car? well you better come in here and apologize.

kannibul 02-23-2010 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 412860)
VDC off huh?...:shakes head:

Thanks for keeping my insurance rates high or raising them even more

Fixed.... :icon14::rolleyes:

NYBladeZ 02-23-2010 08:28 AM

Another one bites the dust....hopefully wherever he is, he's not naive to think that this is a quick 2 week fix. I wish it something they told you when you buy a Nismo, "If anything happens please be aware that replacement parts are always delayed and on back order." I know I flamed him through and through, but come on you're telling me that your friend turned it off the night before, what's next your mom turning VDC off?

kannibul 02-23-2010 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 413251)
My 3 guesses.

1) Came in too fast, jumped off the gas, unsettled the rear, swung around and went over the curb.

2) Cooked the corner, understeered into and over the the curb.

3) Came around a corner too fast, rear slid out, he freaked out and counter steered waaaay too much, swung out the other way and hopped over the curve.

How do you resolve #1, other than not coming in too hot?

m4a1mustang 02-23-2010 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 413543)
How do you resolve #1, other than not coming in too hot?

Usually it's just damage control.

In road racing... just try to keep the car under control and keep it on track... if you go into the grass well then keep your cool and get back on. You'll notice that sometimes if a driver knows he's gone in too deep he will just keep going straight IF there is runoff or an access road.

In NASCAR... SLOWLY ease off the gas, ease up off the steering, and use enough brake to keep the car under control and let the car move on up the track (you are trying to maximize available grip to contribute to braking)... hopefully you'll have scrubbed enough speed to keep it off the wall.

On the street this is hard because you usually can't go off the road without encountering a curb or some other obstacle.

antman22 02-23-2010 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 413543)
How do you resolve #1, other than not coming in too hot?

scream like a little girl and hold onto your balls.

or follow what m4a1mustang said.

FuszNissan 02-23-2010 09:11 AM

Don't let off the gas.

kannibul 02-23-2010 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 413552)
Usually it's just damage control.

In road racing... just try to keep the car under control and keep it on track... if you go into the grass well then keep your cool and get back on. You'll notice that sometimes if a driver knows he's gone in too deep he will just keep going straight IF there is runoff or an access road.

In NASCAR... SLOWLY ease off the gas, ease up off the steering, and use enough brake to keep the car under control and let the car move on up the track (you are trying to maximize available grip to contribute to braking)... hopefully you'll have scrubbed enough speed to keep it off the wall.

On the street this is hard because you usually can't go off the road without encountering a curb or some other obstacle.

Yeah, I remember from my MSF course, that traction is a pie chart, where changes to the vehicle "eat" part of that pie chart. Basically, if you're cornering and this consumes 50% of your available traction, then you have up to 50% available for accelleration or braking.

From this, I gathered that coming in too hot, I'd straighten up and use 100% for braking, then turn.

I was going from the perspective that if you're coming into the corner too hot - say at 90% traction, and you let off, the car will use that remaining 10% just on engine braking....(examples, not hard numbers!) - you touch the brakes and you're screwed. If you're still too hot, you're kissing grass/wall/curb.

m4a1mustang 02-23-2010 09:24 AM

Yeah, you have to do everything you can to straighten the trajectory of the car out so you can brake most effectively. Exactly how you do it depends on the setup of the car... some are very tail happy off throttle, some get twitchy under braking... etc.

nuTinmuch 02-23-2010 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt (Post 413459)
While it takes some balls to own up to your own mistake (well, besides blaming it partially on a friend), you had to expect a little bit of flames from the self-righteous, perfect drivers on these boards. You know, the ones that have never sped, over-accelerated, under-steered, or made any other mistake behind the wheel of a performance car.

Hope the car is ok, and you avoid whatever mistakes you made in the future. Poor Nismo!

I learned my lesson the easy way with VDC. Went through a series of twists and turns without my VDC on (had NO idea exactly what it was going to do, and was thinking it would increase my accelerating capabilities). I almost lost control around a corner, but was able to countersteer and slow down a bit. I got off with just a little sweat on my forehead and a crappy feeling in the pit of my stomach. VDC has been left on to this day!

I just want to say that I don't think anyone has the mindset that they are a perfect driver, I certainly know I don't.

If this had happened on a track everyone would simply be posting "well, ****, that sucks - glad you're okay." The fact is that this was on the street and was preventable. I'm sure everyone is glad the dude is okay, but it's clear it could've been prevented if a little maturity was involved.

joey 02-23-2010 09:47 AM

sucksss

m4a1mustang 02-23-2010 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nuTinmuch (Post 413628)
I just want to say that I don't think anyone has the mindset that they are a perfect driver, I certainly know I don't.

If this had happened on a track everyone would simply be posting "well, ****, that sucks - glad you're okay." The fact is that this was on the street and was preventable. I'm sure everyone is glad the dude is okay, but it's clear it could've been prevented if a little maturity was involved.

That sums it up exactly.

Trips 02-23-2010 10:03 AM

Alright who hurt the Op's feelings! :bowrofl::roflpuke2::bowrofl:

curious as too why Op doesn't show that he drives a Z? a real Z owner would be proud to let others know what he drives.
Just food for thought...

Nismo370 02-23-2010 04:39 PM

I didnt take one, granted i have a lot of experience...I have a cliche with motorized things so to say...I dont kno everything but im a hell of a driver tho


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