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mattkim85 01-17-2009 05:46 PM

how many miles for the 1st oil change?
 
i usually followed the owners manual for the first oil change
but i read a couple posts saying to do it after 20 miles...
dont use synthetic oil...and so on
so i was just wondering how you guys do it? :icon17:

zero 01-17-2009 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattkim85 (Post 20998)
i usually followed the owners manual for the first oil change
but i read a couple posts saying to do it after 20 miles...
dont use synthetic oil...and so on
so i was just wondering how you guys do it? :icon17:

I would follow the manual if you want to keep the car for many years.

LiquidZ 01-17-2009 08:35 PM

1200 miles on the factory oil, then switching it for Royal Purple. I might even do it at 500 miles to get a majority of the metal shavings out.

That's what I will be doing.

MC 01-17-2009 09:46 PM

3750

xtaz 01-17-2009 11:34 PM

What are the thoughts on Synthetic oils? I've seen brands that inclde service like BMW basically suggest 10K mile service intervals. Are they sacrificing long term durability (out of warranty) for short term $ savings?

Crash 01-18-2009 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiquidZ (Post 21029)
1200 miles on the factory oil, then switching it for Royal Purple. I might even do it at 500 miles to get a majority of the metal shavings out.

That's what I will be doing.

+1 EXACTLY what I'm going to be doing.

Royal Purple FTW!

Educ8r 01-18-2009 09:20 AM

I was told the same!

Quote:

Originally Posted by MC@MYGTR (Post 21044)
3750


tvfreakazoid 01-18-2009 06:48 PM

What is so great about royal purple? Why not use synthetic oil?
:icon14:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash (Post 21149)
+1 EXACTLY what I'm going to be doing.

Royal Purple FTW!


dad 01-18-2009 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 21422)
What is so great about royal purple? Why not use synthetic oil?
:icon14:

http://www.the370z.com/brakes-suspen...ar-bibles.html

Go to the engine oil ^!

LiquidZ 01-18-2009 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 21422)
What is so great about royal purple? Why not use synthetic oil?
:icon14:

Royal Purple IS synthetic oil. Probably the most popular pick outside of Mobil 1.

dad 01-18-2009 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiquidZ (Post 21029)
1200 miles on the factory oil, then switching it for Royal Purple. I might even do it at 500 miles to get a majority of the metal shavings out.

That's what I will be doing.

I'm against changing to synthetic so soon. Reason being that the regular oil will help get everything worn and seated quicker than synthetic will. Regular oil is better for the break-in period.

brisk 01-18-2009 09:16 PM

1250 is when i changed it before and was told too.
and used regular oil once and on the next oil change at 3750 i changed to synthetic mobil 1. lol

WShade 01-18-2009 10:40 PM

1200 on dino oil then Redline Synthetic at 3750 :cool:

sensi09 01-19-2009 01:08 AM

I'd switch to synthetic at 3750, then do changes at 5-6K mile intervals after that. I don't think a change at 1200 is necessary, but it certainly can't hurt.

tvfreakazoid 01-19-2009 02:05 AM

So you don't have to do oil changes every 3k miles anymore on this car?
Quote:

Originally Posted by sensi09 (Post 21553)
I'd switch to synthetic at 3750, then do changes at 5-6K mile intervals after that. I don't think a change at 1200 is necessary, but it certainly can't hurt.


tvfreakazoid 01-19-2009 02:06 AM

Are you saying after the 1200 mile break in period, change the factory oil with regular oil, then after when it hits is 3750 mile mark change it to royal blue?
:wtf2:
Quote:

Originally Posted by dad (Post 21462)
I'm against changing to synthetic so soon. Reason being that the regular oil will help get everything worn and seated quicker than synthetic will. Regular oil is better for the break-in period.


Crash 01-19-2009 03:11 AM

^^^ LOL! You need to join a car club, man! You got a lot of questions that could simply be answered by hanging out with experienced car guys! :D

Synthetic Oil life is about 5K-6K miles. On some cars it's closer to 10K. If you race a lot, then you should change it every 1K miles although I know a lot of people that go until 3K. However, even light street racing wouldn't constitute changing it that early. People who run their cars at the track, hot lap, and/or frequent 120+MPH should change their oil often.

I used to race a STOCK LS1 car and won against many modded cars because I replaced the oil after EVERY night of racing. :) There is a method to the madness.

LiquidZ 01-19-2009 11:30 AM

Based on the responses, I will probably change my original plan. Seems like the consensus is to keep the factory oil until 1250, then change it at 3750, and then use synthetic oil after that.

Lug 01-19-2009 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 21565)
Are you saying after the 1200 mile break in period, change the factory oil with regular oil, then after when it hits is 3750 mile mark change it to royal blue?
:wtf2:


Royal Purple

Cown3d 01-19-2009 12:29 PM

royal purple is possibly the worst 'full' synthetic made
its not even a full synthetic...only partial http://www.comprevac.com/products/su...ossref6_03.pdf

its flash point is absolutely terrible compare to other higher priced oils
if you drive your car hard your oil will become nearly water, trust me ive raced road courses for a couple years and used it a few times

Quote from Aaron Lail of Tru dyno spots
"I had some independant tests ran on RP, Mobile 1, and Castrol syntec.

RP was the worst and actually had microscopic metal contaminents from brand new oil! Mobile 1 and syntec came in very close to each other.

I once had a small 4cyl turbo engine running Mobile 1 that had the drain plug come out going down the road somewhere. The engine oil light came on, pulled over to check and it was completely out of oil! Put a new plug in with 4 more quarts of Mobile 1 and never had another problem. That engine is still running today! "



Redline is a good oil
But Eneos, amsoil, and motul are the best you can buy
Enoes---->the oil is polarized which adheres to metal engine components under weight transfer conditions.

AK370Z 01-19-2009 12:44 PM

2 Attachment(s)
How about Motul? Anyone have any experience with them?

http://i2.ebayimg.com/08/i/000/bd/94/9482_1.JPG

Crash 01-19-2009 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cown3d (Post 21693)
But Eneos, amsoil, and motul are the best you can buy
Enoes---->the oil is polarized which adheres to metal engine components under weight transfer conditions.

Interesting... I didn't know about those. +1 Rep

dad 01-19-2009 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cown3d (Post 21693)

RP was the worst and actually had microscopic metal contaminents from brand new oil!

Can you define that?

CrownR426 01-19-2009 12:50 PM

3,000 :driving:

Cown3d 01-19-2009 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad (Post 21705)
Can you define that?

define? as in specify?

Cown3d 01-19-2009 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cown3d (Post 21693)
royal purple is possibly the worst 'full' synthetic made
its not even a full synthetic...only partial http://www.comprevac.com/products/su...ossref6_03.pdf

its flash point is absolutely terrible compare to other higher priced oils
if you drive your car hard your oil will become nearly water, trust me ive raced road courses for a couple years and used it a few times

Quote from Aaron Lail of Tru dyno spots
"I had some independant tests ran on RP, Mobile 1, and Castrol syntec.

RP was the worst and actually had microscopic metal contaminents from brand new oil! Mobile 1 and syntec came in very close to each other.

I once had a small 4cyl turbo engine running Mobile 1 that had the drain plug come out going down the road somewhere. The engine oil light came on, pulled over to check and it was completely out of oil! Put a new plug in with 4 more quarts of Mobile 1 and never had another problem. That engine is still running today! "



Redline is a good oil
But Eneos, amsoil, and motul are the best you can buy
Enoes---->the oil is polarized which adheres to metal engine components under weight transfer conditions.

quoted because it doesnt need to be at the bottom of the page :hello:

LiquidZ 01-19-2009 01:24 PM

I was wondering about Eneos as well. Never heard of them, and I didn't know Motul made engine oil either.

sensi09 01-19-2009 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 21564)
So you don't have to do oil changes every 3k miles anymore on this car?

5K miles with synthetic is a safe interval for daily driving, but can likely go longer. You can get an oil analysis to see how long the oil will properly perform. http://www.blackstone-labs.com/

sensi09 01-19-2009 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 21699)
How about Motul? Anyone have any experience with them?

http://i2.ebayimg.com/08/i/000/bd/94/9482_1.JPG

On the 350Z, I've used primarily Motul and Mobil1, but from the oil analysis threads on my350Z, Motul is not a very good oil, well at least for the VQ.

dad 01-19-2009 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cown3d (Post 21709)
define? as in specify?

had microscopic metal contaminents < what are they talking about?

Cown3d 01-19-2009 09:37 PM

all i can say is precisely what it says...
as in the oil is not exactly pure

Crash 01-20-2009 03:00 AM

I have many friends that swear by RP... But I have a few friends that say they don't care much for it.

Personally, after working for GM for a little bit, I've found that Mobile1 is pretty trust worthy. Although, I've never PERSONALLY used RP. I do, however, use Mobile1 in my Solstice. Seems. I've never put anything else in it though.

tvfreakazoid 01-22-2009 02:32 AM

LOL that's why i'm on here. I will join one soon but for now I like your answers LOL.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash (Post 21574)
^^^ LOL! You need to join a car club, man! You got a lot of questions that could simply be answered by hanging out with experienced car guys! :D

Synthetic Oil life is about 5K-6K miles. On some cars it's closer to 10K. If you race a lot, then you should change it every 1K miles although I know a lot of people that go until 3K. However, even light street racing wouldn't constitute changing it that early. People who run their cars at the track, hot lap, and/or frequent 120+MPH should change their oil often.

I used to race a STOCK LS1 car and won against many modded cars because I replaced the oil after EVERY night of racing. :) There is a method to the madness.


tvfreakazoid 01-22-2009 02:41 AM

How much does it cost to do one these?
Quote:

Originally Posted by sensi09 (Post 21752)
5K miles with synthetic is a safe interval for daily driving, but can likely go longer. You can get an oil analysis to see how long the oil will properly perform. Blackstone Laboratories


tvfreakazoid 01-22-2009 02:42 AM

I guess when I get my 370z, stick with mobile 1 synthetic or redline. How much does redline costs?
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cown3d (Post 21711)
quoted because it doesnt need to be at the bottom of the page :hello:


TerribleONE 01-22-2009 05:16 AM

start editing your posts.... no need to post one after another.. oh ya.. mobile 1 FTW

Robert_Nash 01-22-2009 01:47 PM

Generally speaking, Nissan has not recommended synthetic oil (at least it didn’t in the 350…I haven’t look at my owner’s manual to see if it still says it’s not recommended). I can tell you, however, that I’ve never heard of anyone having problems because they used or didn’t use synthetic.

Personally, on a brand new car/engine, I change the oil somewhere between the first 25-50 miles (or at least as soon as I can get it done)…and then I would change it at least as often as every 3 months/3,000 miles thereafter (I do it every 1,500 miles/6 weeks for a vehicle I autocross).<o></o>

I believe that if you change your oil/filter on both a frequent and regular basis, then the most of the benefit of synthetic oil goes away.

BTW...Mobil1 used to be the best but they changed their formulation a while ago and is not as good as it once was; Amsoil still uses the better formulation (not sure where RP rates in that mix).

Lug 01-22-2009 02:06 PM

Might want to check this article out:

http://www.animegame.com/cars/Oil%20Tests.pdf

Robert_Nash 01-22-2009 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lug (Post 22926)
Might want to check this article out:

http://www.animegame.com/cars/Oil%20Tests.pdf

Interesting article...I wonder how Amsoil would have done???

I suspect Amsoil wasn't tested because it's not as widely available as most brands.

shumby 01-22-2009 02:28 PM

oil threads are funny


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