both the head and tail lights on the new z are it's best parts imo

You don't need that specific trans., all the VRTT 7AT's are the same.


As for the rendering drop the chrome "U" in the grill, base is fine to have the VR engine so long as they fixed the belt eating issue. For NISMO add early GT-R engine and driveline, yes AWD and go smoke all comers. :rolleyes:

The new Z isn't a failure at all, but the timing and pricing of it are.
I'm sure that heads at Nissan didn't have the intention of making it unavailable for us, they probably wanted to price it as cheaply as possible, given they reused 90% of parts they already had to build it....but the reality is that it came out in the most horrible timing for a car to debut, especially with very heavy competition out there. End prices are so high that whoever wanted to buy it, will be sadly looking at the competition as well, because if you're buying a sportscar for $50k, then you've got quite a bit of options other than just the Z.

The thing that blew my mind is that Nissan is using retooled stamping plants and foundries yet still hit the 50+. The new Z should be a bargain considering all that. I understand materials have gone up but they have been using similar design since the introduction of the 350z.

I agree. But whereas previously they could have the Z as one of their products that's more for marketing's sake, and not making actual profit, in today's car market, they probably need all their products to make some sort of profit, and the Z can't make it unless they ramp up the price....and those won't sell then. It's a lose-lose.