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Crash 01-19-2009 01:04 PM
^^^ DING! Exactly!

sprix! 01-19-2009 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Crash (Post 21714)
I disagree... Unless you have one of those old style mirrors that go all the way across your windshield, and you have GIANT side mirrors that stick out 6 inches from the door, you CANNOT cover all the blind spots. Please do not drive around me.

As much as all my mirrors cover, I will not trust that I'm seeing everything.
You certainly have that right to disagree. Maybe I was unclear in my original post, but let me clarify and say that there will always be a blind spot, but there are methods of reducing it and making it more livable. I am not necessarily advocating that angling your mirrors in X fashion will allow you to see everything, but I am suggesting that most people have their mirrors placed in a way that is not conducive to seeing optimally. I will say again, if you have problems seeing what is directly behind your car in the rear view mirror, NO mirror will be enough. I don't have gigantic mirrors anywhere on my car, but I would argue that a blindspot is no longer an issue because of my setup on my mirrors. I guess it comes down to different people having different experiences.
As to the other replies- if you are not looking at the side of the car in the side view mirrors, I don't see how this is a problem. Most people do not have their side mirrors set up to see what is adjacent and to the rear of their cars. They look instead at the side of their own car which defeats the purpose of a side view mirror.
I haven't driven a 370z, but I have sat inside of one a few times and seen what the mirrors are set up like. That said, I don't believe I will have a problem with a blind spot when I get mine.

Crash 01-19-2009 01:12 PM
^^^ LOL! Unless they just want to make sure their paint is still on the door.

capo190 01-19-2009 08:04 PM
Where do you buy these fish eye/dome mirrors you guys are talking about?

Do they need to be professionally installed or can you do it yourself?

Robert_Nash 01-19-2009 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by capo190 (Post 21901)
Where do you buy these fish eye/dome mirrors you guys are talking about?

Do they need to be professionally installed or can you do it yourself?
Most any decent auto parts store will carry them.

Crash 01-19-2009 10:00 PM
I got mine from AutoZone. I got the lowest profile and flattest ones I could find. DON'T get the ones that rotate and are bulky. Those are just gimmicks and are complete junk.

dad 01-19-2009 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by capo190 (Post 21901)
Where do you buy these fish eye/dome mirrors you guys are talking about?

Do they need to be professionally installed or can you do it yourself?
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Originally Posted by Robert_Nash (Post 21948)
Most any decent auto parts store will carry them.
Wal mart, Target= cheaper price! Peal off the back , self adhesive, stick it on!

dad 01-19-2009 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Crash (Post 21950)
I got mine from AutoZone. I got the lowest profile and flattest ones I could find. DON'T get the ones that rotate and are bulky. Those are just gimmicks and are complete junk.
I'd like to see a photo of those?

Z34drifty 01-19-2009 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Crash (Post 21583)
Lucky... People here in Los Angeles like to be in your blind spot on purpose. No joke.

If you even turn your turn-signals on, they'll speed up just to prevent you from changing lanes. I honestly wish that was a joke or an exaggeration.
Really they only do that when I'm in my Camry

Crash 01-20-2009 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by dad (Post 21978)
I'd like to see a photo of those?
Which ones?

And z34drifty, That's because they know camerys are slow. :D They do it to me cause I'm young, and they do it to old people to see if their teeth fall out when they're yelling at out the window at them. :D

I can think of a million and a 1/2 reasons why jerks do that.

Z34drifty 01-20-2009 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Crash (Post 22024)
Which ones?

And z34drifty, That's because they know camerys are slow. :D They do it to me cause I'm young, and they do it to old people to see if their teeth fall out when they're yelling at out the window at them. :D

I can think of a million and a 1/2 reasons why jerks do that.
Yea I can see that too.
I just wish that the semi's stop taking there time when I'm trying to change lanes. They slow down even more.

Crash 01-21-2009 07:12 PM
The only issues I have with semi trucks here is that they merge over without looking often. I can't even begin to tell you how happy I was to have power on demand!

dad 01-21-2009 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Crash (Post 21950)
I got mine from AutoZone. I got the lowest profile and flattest ones I could find. DON'T get the ones that rotate and are bulky. Those are just gimmicks and are complete junk.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crash (Post 22024)
Which ones?
The low profile,flat ones!

Z34drifty 01-21-2009 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Crash (Post 22541)
The only issues I have with semi trucks here is that they merge over without looking often. I can't even begin to tell you how happy I was to have power on demand!
It does feel good.

FricFrac 01-21-2009 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by sprix! (Post 21665)
Well, if you are having problems with vision and changing lanes, I would surmise your mirror are angled inappropriately. There is no reason you should not be able to see a car that is either behind you or next to you with the mirrors angled properly. Most people use their side view mirrors as rear view mirrors. (it isn't like a car is going to pop out of the rear of your car... :D) That is- they have them aimed at the rear corners of the car like that is an area that one can't see from the .... oh I dunno.... REAR view mirror. If you use your side view mirrors and angle them towards the side of the vehicle, you will eliminate this. I will try to give you an idea of how I have my mirrors set up.
- My rear view mirror shows me everything that is behind my car.
- As something passes out of the field of my rear view mirror, it passes into the field of the side view mirrors.
- As something passes out of the field of the side view mirrors, it passes into my personal field of peripheral vision. In my opinion, you should NOT be able to see the side of your car in your side view mirror. If you can, you are not utilizing your mirrors fully. Why look at the side of your own car as you are traveling when it benefits much more to look at what is adjacent to you?
For most people, this may seem odd, but I found that setting up my mirrors like that effectively removed the blind spot from my vehicle.
I usually have my side view mirrors set up so I can JUST see the side of the vehicle - that gives a good reference as to exactly where the other vehicle is while maximizing the viewing area of the mirror.

Besides what's the deal with dome mirrors - you just need pipes loud enough that everyone backs off ;P

Crash 01-21-2009 10:28 PM
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http://img.nextag.com/image/CIPA-USA.../531880371.jpg

Autozone has these for cheaper. (Like $1.90) I couldn't find the exact ones I had, but I also got mine back in 2004.

Also, mine were 2 inch, not 3. The 2 inch was MORE than enough. 3 is a bit big.

tvfreakazoid 01-22-2009 03:45 AM
Great idea. I will do that. Thanks for the tip.
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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 21614)
I also put it on the lower outer edge. But here's an idea -- take a piece of scotch tape, fold it over on itself so that it's double sided, and experiment. Stick it on the outside, get in your car and look at it to see how it looks. Pull it off and stick it back on the inner side and repeat. Then when you decide where it suits you the best, you can remove the permanent backing and apply.

tvfreakazoid 01-22-2009 03:49 AM
Thats why invest in a bucket ride and I am sure you will have no problems changing lanes.
It's true what you say. I knew someone that lived their for a while and when I went to visit him the way he drove all I can say like "F***ing maniac". He said when you get cut off for the 100th time you learn how to adapt. Literally he was weaving in and out, cutting people off. You have to drive a little crazy in LA, but make sure you dont run into the crazy people with guns.
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Originally Posted by Crash (Post 21583)
Lucky... People here in Los Angeles like to be in your blind spot on purpose. No joke.

If you even turn your turn-signals on, they'll speed up just to prevent you from changing lanes. I honestly wish that was a joke or an exaggeration.

sbkim 02-06-2009 09:06 PM
bump - I noticed that this is pretty big issue with the 370z. So most of us are using convex mirrors? LaneFX sounds promising.

k.alexander 02-06-2009 09:32 PM
I've had one of these on all of my cars for about 12 years now.
Lanechanger: LaneChanger I

(the pic is terrible, they don't look that crooked).

I swear by this product, like $7 at PepBoys/AutoZone (a long time ago). Basically this gives you full rear 180 degree view. I dont use any of my other mirrors any more. One glance in this mirror and you can see everything that is going on behind you up and to your peripheral field of vision.

PS: This image shows off what I mean quite well:
http://www.lanechanger.com/images/mirror_028_web.jpg

I havent gotten my hands on the 370Z yet (three more days) and I plan on putting one of these on, immediately. Hope it works, considering how big the C-pillar is in the car, and how small the quarter windows are, not to mention how little visibility there is out of the rear window.

sbkim 02-06-2009 11:06 PM
Looks promising. Please let us know how it works on the Z.

SoCal 370Z 02-06-2009 11:43 PM
Multivex
 
Multivex

Here is a link to the Lotus forum where they review MultiVex for the Elise. Please note that Elise mirrors are manually adjusted so the mirror housing comprises the mirror assembly, and is not a shroud as it is with the 370Z: Multivex Mirror review

I like the LaneFX (especially their ParkFX feature as I have that on another automobile we own) but unless someone comes up with a plug-n-play adapter kit so that the 370Z can be returned completely to factory—without any wire splicing—then it's a no go for me.

Voivod 02-07-2009 03:18 AM
The blind spot is honestly not that bad. You do have to lean into it a little bit on the driver's side, but it's far from impossible. I'm driving a friend's Miata convertable right now and the Z has amazing visibility by comparison.

Paradox 02-07-2009 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Voivod (Post 28477)
The blind spot is honestly not that bad. You do have to lean into it a little bit on the driver's side, but it's far from impossible. I'm driving a friend's Miata convertable right now and the Z has amazing visibility by comparison.
That statement at the end is a little far fetched, I couldn't see $h3T for the life of me. I tried adjusting my seat, moving my entire body, angling my neck, hunching myself to gain a lower angle of view. If there was a rider there, that would be the last thing he would've saw, the driver side rear quarter panel that ended his life. :owned:

Crash 02-07-2009 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z (Post 28454)
Multivex

Here is a link to the Lotus forum where they review MultiVex for the Elise. Please note that Elise mirrors are manually adjusted so the mirror housing comprises the mirror assembly, and is not a shroud as it is with the 370Z: Multivex Mirror review

I like the LaneFX (especially their ParkFX feature as I have that on another automobile we own) but unless someone comes up with a plug-n-play adapter kit so that the 370Z can be returned completely to factory—without any wire splicing—then it's a no go for me.
Well, I don't know about this:

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CAUTION!! Turning your head to check your blind spot will cause you to lose sight of what is happening directly in front of your vehicle!! This is always a dangerous maneuver!
That in itself sounds stupid to me. It doesn't take much to look forward, glance to the right, and look forward again. If you're looking to the side after seeing cars not so far ahead of you (2-3 seconds ahead) then you're an idiot and shouldn't be driving.

A set of fish-eyes are the best way to go, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't glance over your shoulder for good measure.

zsport1 02-09-2009 12:58 PM
I have owned 5 Z's and all of them have terrible blind spots. My Z32TT is just as bad as the 350Z and 370Z. Quarter windows are virtually useless. It's a sports car guys.
If you adjust your door mirrors properly you will not have any blind spots and will be able to see just fine. :driving:

KManZ 02-09-2009 05:24 PM
Just drive super careful, there's no rush. Gent's, take the stress out of your life on the highway, and just choose a lane and go. You drastically cut down on your chances of hitting someone in your blind spot if you aren't changing lanes all the time. Our traffic here in N. VA is pretty damn bad, and no matter how you drive and how much lane changing you do, you get to your destination in about the same time. So put on some tunes, lean back in your seat, and relax :) Don't risk your sweet new Z trying to weave in and out like some ricer.

Of course, when it's time to exit, signal early and often, and take it slow.

-Road Rage extraordinaire

SiXK 02-09-2009 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by zsport1 (Post 29035)
I have owned 5 Z's and all of them have terrible blind spots. My Z32TT is just as bad as the 350Z and 370Z. Quarter windows are virtually useless. It's a sports car guys.
If you adjust your door mirrors properly you will not have any blind spots and will be able to see just fine. :driving:
I will agree with you on this. I have also owned 5 Z's, and, like you said, my Z32TT is just as bad as the 350 I had and the 370 I have now, they've all been bad. when setting the mirrors, if done right you can have no blind spots.

k.alexander 02-13-2009 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by k.alexander (Post 28412)
I've had one of these on all of my cars for about 12 years now.
Lanechanger: LaneChanger I

(the pic is terrible, they don't look that crooked).

I swear by this product, like $7 at PepBoys/AutoZone (a long time ago). Basically this gives you full rear 180 degree view. I dont use any of my other mirrors any more. One glance in this mirror and you can see everything that is going on behind you up and to your peripheral field of vision.

PS: This image shows off what I mean quite well:
http://www.lanechanger.com/images/mirror_028_web.jpg

I havent gotten my hands on the 370Z yet (three more days) and I plan on putting one of these on, immediately. Hope it works, considering how big the C-pillar is in the car, and how small the quarter windows are, not to mention how little visibility there is out of the rear window.
After driving for a few days now, with the lanechanger mirror, I posted a link to above, I have the following observations:

The mirror does work on the Z. The C-pillar is huge on this car, and since we simply can't see through metal, the mirror cant either. Having said that, you can JUST ABOUT rely only on this mirror and nothing else. I've tested it now, when standing in traffic, and you can see some part (either front or back) of the car in your blind spot.

That should just about be enough. However, in addition, I did what many here recommended, and adjusted my outside mirrors so that I can just about barely see the side of my car, with the rest of the mirror showing me what is to the side of the car. As a result, with the outside mirrors, I can see the other part of the car (the one I cant see with the lanechanger).

Bottom line, between the lanechanger mirror and the outside mirrors adjusted, as described above, I feel like I'm fine (o need to turn the head, as in fact I see less when I do that), and essentially my entire blind spot is covered.

sbkim 02-13-2009 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by k.alexander (Post 30324)
After driving for a few days now, with the lanechanger mirror, I posted a link to above, I have the following observations:

The mirror does work on the Z. The C-pillar is huge on this car, and since we simply can't see through metal, the mirror cant either. Having said that, you can JUST ABOUT rely only on this mirror and nothing else. I've tested it now, when standing in traffic, and you can see some part (either front or back) of the car in your blind spot.

That should just about be enough. However, in addition, I did what many here recommended, and adjusted my outside mirrors so that I can just about barely see the side of my car, with the rest of the mirror showing me what is to the side of the car. As a result, with the outside mirrors, I can see the other part of the car (the one I cant see with the lanechanger).

Bottom line, between the lanechanger mirror and the outside mirror adjustment, as described above, I feel like I'm fine. No need to turn the head, as in fact I see less when I do that.
Thanks for the update. After test driving the Z again, I see your point with Lanechanger - without more windows in the car, it won't do much good...

I guess for even more added safey, I guess you can install convex mirror on the side. Do you need one on the driver side as well?

frost 02-13-2009 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Crash (Post 28677)
Well, I don't know about this:



That in itself sounds stupid to me. It doesn't take much to look forward, glance to the right, and look forward again. If you're looking to the side after seeing cars not so far ahead of you (2-3 seconds ahead) then you're an idiot and shouldn't be driving.

A set of fish-eyes are the best way to go, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't glance over your shoulder for good measure.
I always do a quick glance over the shoulder. It's the first thing they teach you in every motorcycle safety course I've ever been to.

k.alexander 02-13-2009 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by sbkim (Post 30336)
Thanks for the update. After test driving the Z again, I see your point with Lanechanger - without more windows in the car, it won't do much good...

I guess for even more added safey, I guess you can install convex mirror on the side. Do you need one on the driver side as well?
I might still install those little mirrors. For a buck or so a piece it's a no brainer, but since they'll be on the outside edge of the external mirror's they'll also take away from the external mirrors themselves. Dont know, will have to test this out.

k.alexander 02-13-2009 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by frost (Post 30338)
I always do a quick glance over the shoulder. It's the first thing they teach you in every motorcycle safety course I've ever been to.
Frost, I agree. I ride a bike, and have taken the motorcycle safety course. But honestly, if you ever use the lanechanger, (and again, no association with that company whatsoever) and you get used to using one (and I've been using one for probably 12-13 years) you'll see that you really need not look over your shoulder. The lanechanger really shows you everything that is behind AND AROUND you and your mind, or at least mine, is able to put it all in relation to each other and together.

RwIron 02-18-2009 01:54 AM
Get the dome mirrors and nothing to complain about. Many other sports car of this type such as the audi tt roadster (which my friend owns) has a worse blind spot than this. In most of the two seater coupes has these kind of problems.

Greg 02-18-2009 03:56 AM
Mirror procedure and discipline are your friends ;)

m4a1mustang 02-18-2009 08:39 AM
Dome mirrors are great. I put them on every car I own.

alan93rsa 02-18-2009 11:33 AM
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I always do a quick glance over the shoulder. It's the first thing they teach you in every motorcycle safety course I've ever been to.
The only thing that bothers me about glancing over my shoulder is the distance covered at speed while I'm not looking ahead. It's a crap shoot.

sbkim 02-18-2009 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 32207)
Dome mirrors are great. I put them on every car I own.
The ones I've seen so far are the <$2 from walmart etc and they seem to be little unclear (opaque) as opposed to high quality mirror. Anyone know where you can get high quality convex mirrors?

Asheth 02-18-2009 02:48 PM
Has anyone installed the convex mirrors yet? If so pics please :tup:

zsport1 02-20-2009 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Greg (Post 32163)
Mirror procedure and discipline are your friends ;)
Agree.:tup:


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