Initial 370Z v. 350Z impressions (after 5 days of 370Z ownership)

shumby · 03-16-2009, 10:13 AM

ok tell me how you can pump a brake as fast and as controled as ABS. also tell me how you can adjust the braking force applied to each wheel. Face the facts that as tech advances it will do a better job at this then we can. SO unless you can tell me you rev match purfectly everytiime SRM is the way of the future of MT trannies.

semtex · 03-16-2009, 10:29 AM

You can't (pump a brake as fast as ABS), and I don't (rev match perfectly every time). Did you even read my post all the way through before jumping down my throat? This is a direct quote from the second paragraph: "I want to be clear though. I'm not anti SRM, or ABS, or TC or whatever. I think all of these technologies are great. Indeed, even though they're doing what humans could do for themselves, they do it with a lot more precision and speed than virtually any human could muster." So what are you getting all up in arms over?

And what exactly is it that you're arguing, anyway? That SRM is the way of the future for MTs? Okay, so? Did I ever argue otherwise? Did I ever say that it isn't? Sheesh! All I've said is that I have mixed feelings about this latest technological advancement because as cool as it is, some people inevitably won't bother developing the skill to rev-match without a technological aid, and I think that's a shame. Why is this so offensive/controversial to you? Am I missing something here?

chubbs · 03-16-2009, 01:58 PM

I sort of agree with Semtex here - I'm starting to think that SRM is a bit of a gimmick and I'll tell you why...

...just lately (because of the arrival of SRM) I've been more conscious of my gear changing actions. I've come to the conclusion that I actually don't need SRM, because I can actually change gear OK myself (without heel & toe). If I were on a track, racing people, I think it might be useful, but to be honest, I don't track my cars. In day-to-day driving I can beat anyone I choose to beat, without SRM.

Just like Semtex I have nothing against SRM and I will use it if I get a 370Z, but let's not overrate it - it's a nice little gadget, nothing more.

Pushing_Tin · 03-16-2009, 04:13 PM

I wonder if the purists back in the day said the same thing when synchronized gears first showed up..? "Damn new fangled carriages, back in my day we had to come to a complete stop to shift into first!!"

I've driven stick shifts all my life, I even took my first driver's test in a 1986 Isuzu Trooper with a 5 speed, and I've driven vintage VW Beetles with unsynchronized gears. To me this is just another incremental step foward in the technology of an automobile.

The best part about it is that you can shut it off, and kick it old school, or drive with the help of the computer. To each their own just like Semtex says, personally I love it.

semtex · 03-16-2009, 04:19 PM

Well, to be fair, my wife does often accuse me of being a Luddite. lol

alan93rsa · 03-16-2009, 04:35 PM

I've grown to like the SRM feature. Almost every car I've owned has been a manual. I've been tracking cars for 20 years and this would have been nice to have had on numerous occasions. However, I will agree that for a street only car it may be a bit of icing.

I'll be at Mid-Ohio next month to see how it feels on the track.

ZLUJ · 01-19-2010, 04:43 AM

Very nice write-up. If you dont mind me asking what do you do for a living and how old are you?

1slow370 · 01-19-2010, 05:31 AM

just wanted to add that i know for a fact that that a beretta will fit in the glove box nicely, and the 1/2 drive breaker bar has a nice spot next to the driver-side console. Great security when i stay in Milwaukee or Chicago. Although the only time someone ever tried to car jack the Z (while i was in it) was at a gas station between Appleton and Green Bay(also know as B.F.E or the middle of nowhere) by three plaid wearing rednecks that pulled up in an 90's olds cutlass supreme. Shifted into reverse then started the car and might have driven over one of there feet. (Gun and B*tch be cool tool where added after that incident, they should be factory options IMO)

semtex · 01-19-2010, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ZLUJ

Very nice write-up. If you dont mind me asking what do you do for a living and how old are you?

39. I work for IBM as a business analyst.

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

just wanted to add that i know for a fact that that a beretta will fit in the glove box nicely, and the 1/2 drive breaker bar has a nice spot next to the driver-side console. Great security when i stay in Milwaukee or Chicago. Although the only time someone ever tried to car jack the Z (while i was in it) was at a gas station between Appleton and Green Bay(also know as B.F.E or the middle of nowhere) by three plaid wearing rednecks that pulled up in an 90's olds cutlass supreme. Shifted into reverse then started the car and might have driven over one of there feet. (Gun and B*tch be cool tool where added after that incident, they should be factory options IMO)

Which model Beretta? I doubt you're sticking a 92FS in there!

Red370 · 01-19-2010, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370

just wanted to add that i know for a fact that that a beretta will fit in the glove box nicely, and the 1/2 drive breaker bar has a nice spot next to the driver-side console. Great security when i stay in Milwaukee or Chicago. Although the only time someone ever tried to car jack the Z (while i was in it) was at a gas station between Appleton and Green Bay(also know as B.F.E or the middle of nowhere) by three plaid wearing rednecks that pulled up in an 90's olds cutlass supreme. Shifted into reverse then started the car and might have driven over one of there feet. (Gun and B*tch be cool tool where added after that incident, they should be factory options IMO)

Here's the question I have, why would you carry a gun in your glove box? If a situation arose, wouldnt you want it within arms reach? I keep my M&P .357 compact in my center console and the ol' keltec in my pocket, better safe than sorry right?

I've been in a few hairy situations in my life, thank god for the state of Texas and concealed carry

semtex · 01-19-2010, 08:59 AM

Oh he said glove box!! I missed that until I read your post, Red370. Okay, now it makes sense that he can fit a Beretta in there. I was thinking center console. Like you, that's where I keep a gun (currently a Ruger LCR).

Red370 · 01-19-2010, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex

Oh he said glove box!! I missed that until I read your post, Red370. Okay, now it makes sense that he can fit a Beretta in there. I was thinking center console. Like you, that's where I keep a gun (currently a Ruger LCR).

How is the LCR? How is the recoil with such a light gun using +P rounds?

6MT · 01-19-2010, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex

- The new gas pedal is floor-mounted instead of firewall-mounted. Not a huge deal, but it does feel different. Seems to me that you have to press down a little deeper before the engine will respond. This ties back to the whole heel and toe thing, because when I turn off Synchro Rev-match to do my own heel and toe, I find it a little harder than it was in the 350, as I have to depress the gas pedal much more with the edge of my foot to get high enough revs, relative to the 350. Well, at least the gas and brake pedals are still close enough together to heel/toe.

You may find that if you install a grounding kit (Stillen and the like), you will see better throttle response. I know, I did.

Great review!

In most repsects (although, I had never driven a Z car before the 370).

Tyrell Tyson · 01-19-2010, 10:49 AM

Yoyo semtex so tell us, does your car make that gay high pitch ringing sound near/around the glove box?

P.S i keep a rocket launcher in my left sock, you know, just in case

- Ty

semtex · 01-19-2010, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrell Tyson

Yoyo semtex so tell us, does your car make that gay high pitch ringing sound near/around the glove box?

P.S i keep a rocket launcher in my left sock, you know, just in case

- Ty

Nope, no ringing sound. But I've read that for a lot of people, it doesn't start until somewhere around 8k miles, and I'm at around 7500 right now. So it might be a case of no ringing sound yet. *Knocks on wood.*

03-16-2009, 10:13 AM	#1 (permalink)
shumby Captin Canuck Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: with your mom Age: 45 Posts: 6,288 Drives: your sister Rep Power: 237	ok tell me how you can pump a brake as fast and as controled as ABS. also tell me how you can adjust the braking force applied to each wheel. Face the facts that as tech advances it will do a better job at this then we can. SO unless you can tell me you rev match purfectly everytiime SRM is the way of the future of MT trannies. __________________ Originally Posted by SAM@GTM Engine detonation is not normal and it should never never happen, and whoever told that need to do something else for living . Sam

03-16-2009, 10:29 AM	#2 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 55 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 33	You can't (pump a brake as fast as ABS), and I don't (rev match perfectly every time). Did you even read my post all the way through before jumping down my throat? This is a direct quote from the second paragraph: "I want to be clear though. I'm not anti SRM, or ABS, or TC or whatever. I think all of these technologies are great. Indeed, even though they're doing what humans could do for themselves, they do it with a lot more precision and speed than virtually any human could muster." So what are you getting all up in arms over? And what exactly is it that you're arguing, anyway? That SRM is the way of the future for MTs? Okay, so? Did I ever argue otherwise? Did I ever say that it isn't? Sheesh! All I've said is that I have mixed feelings about this latest technological advancement because as cool as it is, some people inevitably won't bother developing the skill to rev-match without a technological aid, and I think that's a shame. Why is this so offensive/controversial to you? Am I missing something here? __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf. Last edited by semtex; 03-16-2009 at 10:36 AM. Reason: Toned it down a little.

03-16-2009, 01:58 PM	#3 (permalink)
chubbs A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Zeeland Posts: 1,046 Drives: 2016 370z Auto-Grey Rep Power: 7587	I sort of agree with Semtex here - I'm starting to think that SRM is a bit of a gimmick and I'll tell you why... ...just lately (because of the arrival of SRM) I've been more conscious of my gear changing actions. I've come to the conclusion that I actually don't need SRM, because I can actually change gear OK myself (without heel & toe). If I were on a track, racing people, I think it might be useful, but to be honest, I don't track my cars. In day-to-day driving I can beat anyone I choose to beat, without SRM. Just like Semtex I have nothing against SRM and I will use it if I get a 370Z, but let's not overrate it - it's a nice little gadget, nothing more. __________________ . '03 Grey >>> '06 Black >>>'10 Silver >>> '16 Grey ^

03-16-2009, 04:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 55 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 33	Well, to be fair, my wife does often accuse me of being a Luddite. lol __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

03-16-2009, 04:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
alan93rsa Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 412 Drives: 16 Cayman GT4 Red Rep Power: 221	I've grown to like the SRM feature. Almost every car I've owned has been a manual. I've been tracking cars for 20 years and this would have been nice to have had on numerous occasions. However, I will agree that for a street only car it may be a bit of icing. I'll be at Mid-Ohio next month to see how it feels on the track. __________________ 16 Cayman GT4, Carmine Red, Buckets, PCCB etc.

03-16-2009, 04:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
Pushing_Tin A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 2,875 Drives: E63 AMG Rep Power: 228	I wonder if the purists back in the day said the same thing when synchronized gears first showed up..? "Damn new fangled carriages, back in my day we had to come to a complete stop to shift into first!!" I've driven stick shifts all my life, I even took my first driver's test in a 1986 Isuzu Trooper with a 5 speed, and I've driven vintage VW Beetles with unsynchronized gears. To me this is just another incremental step foward in the technology of an automobile. The best part about it is that you can shut it off, and kick it old school, or drive with the help of the computer. To each their own just like Semtex says, personally I love it.

01-19-2010, 04:43 AM	#7 (permalink)
ZLUJ Base Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 2 Drives: 1995 E36 M3 Rep Power: 16	Very nice write-up. If you dont mind me asking what do you do for a living and how old are you? Last edited by ZLUJ; 01-19-2010 at 04:48 AM.

01-19-2010, 05:31 AM	#8 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7252	just wanted to add that i know for a fact that that a beretta will fit in the glove box nicely, and the 1/2 drive breaker bar has a nice spot next to the driver-side console. Great security when i stay in Milwaukee or Chicago. Although the only time someone ever tried to car jack the Z (while i was in it) was at a gas station between Appleton and Green Bay(also know as B.F.E or the middle of nowhere) by three plaid wearing rednecks that pulled up in an 90's olds cutlass supreme. Shifted into reverse then started the car and might have driven over one of there feet. (Gun and B*tch be cool tool where added after that incident, they should be factory options IMO)

01-19-2010, 08:59 AM	#11 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 55 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 33	Oh he said glove box!! I missed that until I read your post, Red370. Okay, now it makes sense that he can fit a Beretta in there. I was thinking center console. Like you, that's where I keep a gun (currently a Ruger LCR). __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

01-19-2010, 10:49 AM	#14 (permalink)
Tyrell Tyson Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: EU Posts: 295 Drives: P90 TR Rep Power: 16	Yoyo semtex so tell us, does your car make that gay high pitch ringing sound near/around the glove box? P.S i keep a rocket launcher in my left sock, you know, just in case - Ty

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