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UNKNOWN_370 07-11-2019 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyber370 (Post 3866504)
Yep. That’s one fast BMW!!! But I can’t get past the fake vents and weird looking roof line. There’s just something off about the way it looks.


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The vents aren't fake. That was a mistake

MZ DAIZY 07-11-2019 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3866501)
Your $30k Z would get stomped into the ground. Don't look at the horsepower. Look at the torque.

That true, didn’t look at the torque. Still not interested in a $60,000 rolling turd. How about if I put $30,000 into my $30,000 Z to make it a fair fight?

Zingston 07-11-2019 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY (Post 3866543)
That true, didn’t look at the torque. Still not interested in a $60,000 rolling turd. How about if I put $30,000 into my $30,000 Z to make it a fair fight?


Now you're talking! I'll take the Z, thank you.


Or a Corvette. :tiphat:

MZ DAIZY 07-11-2019 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Zingston (Post 3866511)
Yeah dude, but that's different and many times requires alcohol. I would not suggest drinking to make the Supra look "acceptable". :icon14:

There isn’t enough alcohol in this county to change my mind about the supras looks. It’s that bad.

MZ DAIZY 07-11-2019 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Zingston (Post 3866544)
Now you're talking! I'll take the Z, thank you.


Or a Corvette. :tiphat:

Exactly! Before I drop 60 large on the rolling turd, I’d buy the Vette and have an extra $4000 in my pocket.

MZ DAIZY 07-11-2019 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3866502)
They dynoed 421lbs tq. That's nuts. I think a Z dynoed at around 258lbs on a stock motor. You need to put an 86 motor on top of the VQ to be in the same torque family as a supra

Where are you getting 421flb of torque? The most I’ve seen is 365. Still impressive, but not 421 impressive.

CRiZO 07-11-2019 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3866542)
The vents aren't fake. Just covered. They actually designed the vents in case you get the supra over 600hp. Then you can uncap them. The vents dont need to be open for less t hgv an 600hp. So again. The car was designed to be the real deal.

They are fake. Most go nowhere at all and have metal behind them.

AestheticCM1 07-11-2019 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 3866325)
we should all chill a bit

Sorry for the zealousness, the Z replaced my bmw so comparatively the Z's cornering ability is astoundingly good.

JDotCDot 07-11-2019 02:12 PM

I'm surprised at all the Supra hate in here!

I'm not getting one, but I won't deny that it'll be a better car than a stock Z34. My sister is getting a launch edition when it arrives later this month/next month, so I'm PUMPED to try it out.

Anyway, to get back on topic - I didn't watch the video but I agree with a lot that's being said here - 86 and 370Z (especially a Nismo) shouldn't even be compared. That's not to say one car is better than the other, but they are just in different classes it doesn't even makes sense. The only thing that have in common is that they are both Japanese RWD coupes :P

nis350 07-11-2019 03:06 PM

:iagree:


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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3866392)
Hope you're modded cuz.... the fastest 60 time recorded on the supra is 3.8. The fastest 0-60 on a Z was 4.5seconds... the quarter for s Z is 13.1 seconds IF U DRIVE AUTO? 13.3 for manual. Its 12 seconds on a supra. I wouldn't be racing for pink's if I was you there buddy. Its great to love and prefer your car. Its another to have delusions of grandeur. Lol.



nis350 07-11-2019 03:13 PM

don't think too many people hate the Supra here, some just thought the Z is a better car....

I like my Z, but would love to have an Supra. Lot of car for $55k.

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Originally Posted by JDotCDot (Post 3866593)
I'm surprised at all the Supra hate in here!


UNKNOWN_370 07-11-2019 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY (Post 3866572)
Where are you getting 421flb of torque? The most I’ve seen is 365. Still impressive, but not 421 impressive.

421 was a dyno. 365 is the raing I'll find it later.

nis350 07-11-2019 05:32 PM

The Supra advertised HP is way understated, but what is important is the actual performance which is very similar to the M4's that cost $20k more.

I am sure the after market tuners already have many goodies to make it even better.... ;)

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3866623)
421 was a dyno. 365 is the raing I'll find it later.


nis350 07-11-2019 05:46 PM

I too replaced my e46 M3 with the 370z. Honestly, the M3 is better in all categories compared to the Z The e46 M3 motor is amazingly smooth and interior is better with the napa leather etc... Yes, I do know that the maintenace is much higher for the M3. ;)

The main reason for the replacement was because I really like the look of the car (my 3rd Z) and it was new to me while the M3 was old at the time.

It's probably not a fair comparison as the M3's MSRP was in the $60k's


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Originally Posted by AestheticCM1 (Post 3866579)
Sorry for the zealousness, the Z replaced my bmw so comparatively the Z's cornering ability is astoundingly good.


Falconquey 07-11-2019 08:52 PM

I think comparing the new Supra (the version everyone seems to be referring to at least) to a 30k$ Z is as ridiculous as comparing the 86 to a Nismo Z. Perhaps the real comparison price and style wise should be the Supra v Corvette.

So who's picking this Supra over a Corvette??? For starters, not I!


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