Nissan may not have done much with the Z over 10 years. But my Z is evolving to my liking. :driving:

I watch most of his reviews on YouTube and he is very honest and in your face reviews are good. The z is old but I do not want to be bothered with all the new tech, the z is one of last breed of a drivers car. I rather be seen in my z than a dime a dozen mustang,camaro or dodge.

Thanks! That explains everything. :rofl2:

I don’t hate because of his negative review. I hate because he’s a clueless moron that’s trying to pass himself off as an “expert”

If I want a review on the gadgets my car my has (or doesn’t have) I’ll watch one of his lame videos. Otherwise, I’ll stick to people that actually know what they’re talking about.

Yes, the Z is dated, but look at, for example, the integra type r or the r34 skyline. Both of these cars are extremely dated and like dinosaurs compared to the 370Z, yet both cars are still popular and highly sought after, as well as keeping their values really well. The 370Z will always have an audience and market and people will pay a premium for them, even if a competitor may have something more powerful at the same/better price.

Btw, someone mentioned something about a Supra. Well, tbh, I’m not really impressed by it based on paper specs. Nothing against auto’s, but no manual option available, single-turbo and only puts out 335 hp at crank, and designed in conjunction with BMW platform. I will gladly take the 370Z over the Supra. Better yet, I will gladly take a 2002 Supra over a 2020 Supra.

You can get a “slightly used” Nismo for a lot less than $46,000.

Let’s compare apples to apples.

I gave up after almost halfway through his “review” and was trashing the “info center”

At what time does he get around to whining about the lack of cup holders? :superghey:

This post reminds me of another thread of someone claiming their base with a few upgrades is superior compared to the sport package Z’s

I agree, Styling should be an 8/10 I still stare at my z gorgeous wide rear after all these years in my garage lol

Eh, you don't want to be a bitter owner.

Almost no car on the market is bad if you like it. You're entitled to like what you want, for whatever reason, and pay what you feel is worth it. Not much of a point in going out of your way to convince someone else who doesn't like it.

Don't be like those 86 owners that literally complain about other cars like ours having too much power. I mean talk about reaching.

I did agree with him with the interior but that was never the reason I bought mine and it's never the reason why I buy any car really.

Yes Nissan clearly doesn't care about the Z anymore but at least they put their best effort without any help unlike some companies (f*** you Toyota) which I can respect. I was going to get one of the cars he mentioned (2017 Camaro SS) but still chose the Z over the Camaro because it put a bigger smile on my face and not every person from here to Bangkok has one, V8 or not. Also, I like the fact that if you have a 2013-2018, you literally cannot tell the difference so everyone assumes they are always brand new cars when they rarely see them lol. Anyway, people should stop comparing it to the Mustang Camaros etc because they aren't the same class. It's a bargain compared to the TT and BMW Roadsters or Cayman which who are it's targets, not the muscle cars.

Too many Youtoobers pass themselves off as experts. Who cares what this guy's opinion is anyway when ours is what really matters. So many appreciate what the Z is and cannot wait to pass my car along to my kids or someday, any grand kid who might be interested.

I wouldn’t believe he attempts to pass himself off as an expert by any means. If anything I consider him an average Joe often times giving entertaining reviews, primarily focusing on interesting aspects of vehicles or commenting on high expensive ridiculous or mundane add ons can be. We could split hairs all day about his rating on style of the Z, but in the end he still hones in on the horrible state of affairs with the Z. Cancel it or replace it Nissan. I wonder how much it would differ if he tested a sport package manual.

Ever heard of Renault?

Yes I know them and they didn't design the 370Z or borrow parts from their cars to put on the 370Z or GTR. They didn't take a Renault and slap a Nissan badge on it and called it a 370Z or GTR like the BMW Supra and BMW Z4.
Renault borrowed the VQ35 and maybe the VQ37 to put in their cars but Nissan never borrowed parts designed by frenchies to put in a traditional Japanese car. Mr. K would be rolling in his grave if they did.

I was simply pointing out that Nissan and Renault have worked together in car development. It's very common. Although that relationship is certainly not as egregious as the Supra badging as you have pointed out.

Yeah, every time I see something about the Supra or 86 my eye twitches because Toyota out of all people can do so much better. They literally made the LC-F, RC-F IS-F and GS-F engines all in house and are performance engines a lot better than any VQ Nissan has come up with. The only one where they had outside help was the LFA engine and design with Yamaha.

But back to the 370Z, I honestly think they shouldn't offer any new model years. They need to take 3 years off perfecting the next Z and offer a final edition dedicated to Mr. K and the fact the Z has been around for 50 years with turbos from the GTR and only 1,000 units No bloody stickers on a base model and jacking the price up. The next Z shouldn't have a Nismo version unless it actually means something more than a body kit and they should offer a naturally aspirated close to 400 horsepower (it is possible because a number of you are pushing those numbers with aftermarket parts), and a turbo version or twin turbo version. They should make the next one with rear seats but dedicated enthusiast ones with two seats and offer no roadster versions.

I mean toyota funded all of it and they used yamaha to help tune the exhaust to reverb specifically to shatter a glass of a certain stature.

Or you know give your an eargasm.

That's pretty cool. But I don't want to turn this into a "Why Toyota is Lazy" thread. To be fair, the BMW Supra is now in the exact same class as the 370Z because of it being based on the Z4. The 370Z is cheaper and performance is not too far off out of the box than those cars in the same class. But people will forever s*** on it because the interior and all Nissan has done was add fog lights to it or people compare it to cars that are cheaper that aren't in the same class like the Mustang or Camaro. I have yet to see anyone not enjoy driving one for the first time regardless if they don't have any cool screens to look at while driving.

My review of any review is that all reviews are crap. Especially ones of products one can test before purchase. In this case, you either like the vehicle or you don't. I particularly like the 370Z for some of the reasons he doesn't. Well, what a shock, opinions vary! And I have to point out, money can be made by playing the contrarian.

I know someone has already posted this video from Redline Reviews - but I feel this guy hits it on the nail pretty good with his review of the Nismo. He focuses on the outdatedness but when he gets in the car and drives it - even he can't deny how much fun it is to drive overall. Is the Z outdated and needs a refresh - we all agree it should have happened 3-5 years ago - but it is what it is. Still a great car and a fun car to drive.

https://youtu.be/Egjf-Uh3B38

He gets paid for that drivel? By who? :rofl2:

Doug has his own style, as do many reviewers. In my opinion he's a decent reviewer and has a good sense of humor. He is bang on in regards to certain issues we all know of. Can you imagine if he brought up the CSC issue? The lack of oil cooler? And then go on about the price?

However, his reviews are more based on the bells and whistles of the car. If the car had a function for spraying perfume every time you **** your pants when you hit the accelerator he would give it a "9/10" for the everyday driving rating.

Does he drive sport cars the way they are suppose to be driven? No. He just punches them in a straight line and makes a judgement on the car based off of that, which is enough for the average consumer.

Regardless I like my Z. I chose it over a 335i, M3, Mustang 5.0 and S2000. Why? Good power band, reliable, mods are easy on the car, VQ is a God send in terms of reliability and the lines on this car are indeed timeless.

I give this review a Doug score of 6/10. Just wanted to say from 6:41 - 7:00, I just feel like punching him in his throat. . . So annoying.

So who is this guy, never heard of him so why should I take any notice of what he says?

Cause he’s the guy that points out the lack of cup holders your car has!

And why is that important ... I grew up in an age where we still had wind-up windows and air-con was cracking the quarter-vent open and revering it to catch air-flow.

Young folk these days are sooo entitled

FSO ...........

Uh did he bother unscrewing the subwoofer to get to the spare or do the Nismos not come with one?

They do he just doesn't know as much about the cars he's reviewing as he likes people to think.

.........and the high beam switch was on the floor. The windshield washer was a foot pump on the floor. You had to reach under the dash to open up the vents. The ignition switch was on the dash that was made out of metal, and had no padding. Seat belts was an option. No shoulder belt. Cruise control wasn't invented yet. Not all cars had disc brakes. Manual steering, non-power brakes, and stick shifts was standard. Power steering, power brakes, and automatics was options on some cars. ALL 4x4's had manual locking hubs, and transfer cases that you had to shift with a stick for high and low range. Tune ups was points, plugs, condenser, cap and rotor. Maybe air and fuel filters. Set timing with a timing light. :tup:

:pevery 20-30k miles too if not more often. most cars now can be drove into the dirt for 150k with nothing but oil changes and filters

My thoughts exactly, nor do I give a rats @$$ on who this demented-will-ferrell-looking weenis.

Don’t forget about the cigarette light push button, no keyless entry, the main form of car security was the steering wheel lock (lol now the main form of security is stick shift).

And btw, your generation (I do not mean any disrespect by this) was spoiled compared to freddy flintstone’s era lol.

You ever hand cranked a Model T? :tup: I did. :tup:

Or ride a motorcycle that had the throttle on the right twist grip, and spark advance on the left twist grip? How about the rear brake on the left and shifter on the right? Shifted gears by hand? To start the bike. You had to push a button on the carb until it left a puddle of fuel under the bike.

Drive a Jeep MB3 that had 4 sticks in it. One was for the 3 speed tranny. Next was to engage the transfer case. Next was Hi and Lo range. Last was for the overdrive. :driving:

Drive muscle cars that rolled over and played dead in the corners. :driving:

Double clutching a stick because the tranny had no synchros.

You young guys don't know on what you missed.

Tire changes?? Shoot... rusty had to sharpen his own chisels before having to carve out his own wheels out of stone! ..lol
:stirthepot:

I have had a few old motorcycles.I always had a set of points in saddle bags.One bike had a gravity feed oil ..When you went up hills you had to reach down and pump oil by hand.
Model T had 3 pedals on floor.Far right pedal was brake.Middle pedal gear selector.Far left pedal was reverse.On steering wheel left spark advance.On right throttle.
Besides all the ones you mentioned; another younger people do not know how to do is shift and old car in or out of overdrive.

I have been playing with cars for over 50 years and have had so many cars i cant remember them all, could be early onset alz as i am 66 years on this planet. what i do know is the 370z i have had for a year and a half ,is one of the most fun ,basic ,no bs machines i have had the pleasure of owning . and none of the bs that follows the ownership of units like carrera,california,cambacorsa ,ect.getting raped after purchas is not my idea of fun .in all my years this the first i have herd of doug and after scanning his vid i find him to be a boring ,***. why does a car have to change every few years to be considered good? tweaking it over 10 years has created a fine machine capable of embarrassing many on a tight road course.f..k doug

Yea, but, but, but... the cup holders!! :icon14:

I’m looking at a knee replacement I swear was from the 4 years of “kicking” (in more ways than one) my ‘82 shovelhead...

I had a 1974 Husky 400CR that WOULD break your foot if you worn tennis shoes starting it and it kicked back. :eek: The guy I bought it from sold it for that reason. It broke his foot. It almost broke mine a couple of times. :eek:

How many people know how to sharpen drill bits? Know the proper uses of an anvil?