Most of the hate is not the car itself, but the changes and direction "Nissan" took which doesn't do the car justice. They are capable of more, but for whatever reason they just chose the laziest route imo.. I think the red looks good, but most of the other changes, nisan could of put more thought into it.

this is absurd

there's no expectation that this board has to love anything and everything nissan does, nor that we have to ignore any flaws about the Z

if you just wanna pat yourself on the back, thats what mirrors are for

Robert, no disrespect to the 370Z at all. It’s still a great car that looks and performs awesome. It’s just that I feel Nissan has lost its way. As good as the Z is now, it’s still 10 years old. If a company wants to maintain excitement about its brand and one of its most revered models, it should try harder than smacking stickers on it to celebrate its 50th birthday. To me, that disrespects the fan base and the heritage they should be really trying to cultivate. If Nissan was serious, they would have put a new front end on it or a real pump in power. Something....anything other than stickers that lets me know “Hey, don’t worry, we still get it. Until the new model comes, here’s something to show that we aren’t giving up.” Stickers show me they are phoning it in. Shame on Nissan, not shame on the 370Z.

Looking at the sports car market today fortunately for the people how do own a Nissan 370Z they have a healthy resale value not comparing to the Toyota 86 or Mazda Miata. Japanese sports cars hold their resale value quite well a specially for the first five years. I am another proud owner of my Z and the 50th Anniversary 370Z and Heritage Edition 370Z models are part of the “Z” history. I am eager to see what Nissan will come out with in 2020? Hopefully Nissan will come out with another Z car!!

Robert, I see that you've received some grief for the above post, but I hope you won't let it deter you and just keep posting. It's nice to see someone take a positive stance, on a topic where it's very easy to be negative.

I swapped my 13 Sport Z for a 2017 BMW M2 about 2 years ago, so I spend more time on that forum. Recently BMW upgraded the engine on the new 2019 M2, which should be a very positive thing. However being a car forum, the peeps with my engine gotta bash the new one, or the one's with the new engine, gotta bash the old one. It's funny actually, when things change, a lot of people aren't happy. Then when things don't change, a lot of people aren't happy either.

I was always happy with and enjoyed my 13 Z. I was also one of the first to get a 13 Sport on this forum and was actually shocked to hear a number of members. People whom I thought were Z enthusiasts on this forum, use the word "hate" in regards to the look of my Z. Yes, they hated the LED's, how dare Nissan eliminate the fangs, it's not a true Z. Yes, they hated the Sport Rims, how dare Nissan replace the straight sport rims with curved ones, it's hideous.

On Rennlist, some of the comments of the new 992, 911 coming out reminded me of when I got my 13 Z. From Z, BMW to Porsche forums, bashing on car forums is just how it is.

Robert, Enjoy your Z, it's a great car :tup:

This car came out in 2009. It's a ten year old design. The car itself isn't at fault, it's the company that decided it wasn't in their best interest to put any money in either updating it or replacing it

and more to the point:

if thats what the 50th anniversary looks like, then its a terrible appearance package that is, just that, an appearance package

Subaru's STI is about to be replaced but they still gave north america the damn S209! New body, upgraded engine, some parts from the goody bin

we know Nissan could pull out some stuff from the GTR bin and spice things up a bit if they gave a ****

i mean hell, at least give us the GTR Nismo KAD paint!

Well, if anything, this makes me love my 2010 even more. I don't feel like I'm missing anything from the newer models.

That's a huge huge difference compared to Nissan who has done nothing to the Z in 10 years except add driving lights to the base and Sport models, and change the looks of the Nismo. Nissan did NOTHING to attempt to improve the performance of the Z.

BMW did something within 2 years to help improve the performance. BMW didn't just slap on some ugly useless stickers and call it an upgrade.

ChopsZ, You’re correct, it’s a big difference. Typically, BMW updates chassis, engine and styling on models every 7 years, much better than Nissan. However this 2 year engine update was out of pure necessity. The engine on my 17 M2 could not pass the new European emissions requirement for 2019, thus the installation of the more powerful, slightly detuned engine from the M3/M4.

I personally think this is great, yet there are quite a few on the BMW Forum who don’t share the same opinion as I. Thus the point of my post, some car forum people will bash change whether it’s good or bad and whether it happens or not. Often times this bashing is justified, yet other times it can just get old and be totally uncalled for.

When I read the honest, tough and positive post from boby370z. I knew it would draw some flack, but I appreciated it and wanted him to know it.

Daytona Nissan has 2 listed, but NO pictures!
 

This is the only listing I've found so far for 2020. I guess if you call them they'll send you pictures as soon as it gets to the dealership.
https://www.daytonanissan.com/search...AZ4EH1LM820264

They will call you in 2025 with info and images of the new 2026 Nismo LeafZ.

deepfake. Kill it with fire.

I’m starting to think that’s the whole idea. I can’t see them selling many of these. They have a built in excuse now. :horse:

I actually like the idea of the red stripes on a white car as an homage to the early Z's, but this design was very poorly executed. The proportions and orientation of the stripes don't fit with the lines of the car, and the red hood is Meh. But mostly, that option should be sitting on a car with an engine and interior upgrade. Nissan looks they spent 12 minutes over a couple of gallons of alcohol coming up with this plan.

Oh my b, his picture has the black/grey base stock wheels which I had. I guess the sport wheels would make sense as Honda replicas huh.:facepalm: