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PapoZalsa 12-28-2009 08:24 PM

2nd Page of the Instructions of Installing...
 
I know this topic probably has been beaten up. However everyone has forgot to mention the following page (9-14) of " Installing Front License Plate" in the Technical and consumer information. Every one just posted page 9-13 of the instructions which ends in page 9-14.

When I posted my pics of what I found underneath the plate bracket of my car no one mention this on the thread. After fighting with the dealer about these two holes on the bumper they explain why.

The Nissan Co. fucktards writes on page 9-14. "Mark the center of the hole (D) on both sides with a felt-tip pen. Remove the bracket from the bumper, and then open 0.9 to 1.0 inch (22mm to 25mm) diameter holes on the bumper using the marks (D) as a center."

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l2...Z/101_0604.jpg

Now according to the Store and Service Manager this is a procedure (pre-delivery) done to all the 370Z in States where front license plate is required. So 95% of all the 370 with front license plates have this holes unless you told the dealer not to.

Hope this save someone from going thru all the anger that I been thru. :mad:

370Zsteve 12-28-2009 08:27 PM

:ugh2:

Modshack 12-28-2009 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PapoZalsa (Post 346284)
Now according to the Store and Service Manager this is a procedure (pre-delivery) done to all the 370Z in States where front license plate is required. So 95% of all the 370 with front license plates have this holes unless you told the dealer not to.

Hope this save someone from going thru all the anger that I been thru. :mad:

He's just covering his a$$. (most) dealers, even in License plate states, are smarter than that...

Edit: I should have said "Most dealers arent that STUPID". The bracket can be easily attached using just the two holes in the black trim area (which can easily be plugged.)

mkdiehl 12-28-2009 08:37 PM

Just picked up my 2010 this weekend. We (Colorado) need a front license plate. I didn't get one when I picked up the car and emailed them about it today. However, there are no holes in the front of my car......not to make you more mad....

MightyBobo 12-28-2009 08:43 PM

He's lying. Mine didnt have those holes.

PapoZalsa 12-28-2009 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 346303)
He's just covering his a$$. (most) dealers, even in License plate states, are smarter than that...

That is what I told both of them, I told them that anyone with a half of brain would ask the customer about the holes or get a shorter bolt so it doesn't scrap the bumper.

However I'm calling the General Manager of the dealer and will write Nissan Co. about there stupid instructions write up.


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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 346321)
He's lying. Mine didnt have those holes.

Even if that is the case the freaking instructions says to do the holes.

azn370z 12-28-2009 08:52 PM

If you read the manual it says on page 9-14 to drill those big holes. But what is the purpose of those big holes? I told my dealer to not put on my front plates.

PapoZalsa 12-28-2009 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by azn370z (Post 346347)
But what is the purpose of those big holes?

"So the bracket plate sits flush against the bumper", because the bolts are like 1/16 inch longer...which is totally BS.

Modshack 12-28-2009 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa (Post 346342)
Even if that is the case the freaking instructions says to do the holes.

Common sense should overide stupid instructions, but if they have a young inexperienced guy doing the get-ready (usually the case) this is what you get.....

chibbell 12-28-2009 09:49 PM

When I took delivery the dealer asked if I wanted them installed. I couldn't have said, "No!" quicker.

OR requires them but I haven't had any issues so far.

I know that doesn't really help you but I was annoyed when I saw that comment from your dealer about "95%."

PapoZalsa 12-28-2009 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by chibbell (Post 346446)
When I took delivery the dealer asked if I wanted them installed. I couldn't have said, "No!" quicker.

OR requires them but I haven't had any issues so far.

I know that doesn't really help you but I was annoyed when I saw that comment from your dealer about "95%."

Well, that is a wild guess because of the states with front license plate. However I bet many owners have not check behind the license plate bracket. ;)

speedworks 12-28-2009 11:35 PM

It wouldn't suprise me that is says to do that. I have a front plate (required in my state), and after 1 year, I have two holes there because of the screws that hold the plate on - unfortunately, but realistically, they are too long, and stick into the bumper - not sure if this only happens when the wind pressure pushes the plate back or not, but if I look behind my plate, there are two screws jutting into the bumper into about that area where those holes are. If I ever move to another state, I would have to keep a plate on just to hide the marks. Another small mistake by Nissan. :mad:

MightyBobo 12-28-2009 11:40 PM

They scratch when you or the dealer puts the plate on, and puts pressure on the bracket/screw as you turn it. Bends the bracket twords the paint, and gouges it.

Josh@STILLEN 12-29-2009 12:19 AM

It is frustrating, but in the standard delivery protocol.. but usually asking for this not to happen works, especially on a new vehicle. When I took delivery of my G35 I was seconds away from someone drilling, despite repeated mentions.

A good 'fix' for this is BumperPlugs.com.. but not better than not having them.

Some dealerships have swapped fascias for others on the lot when pushed hard..

For states needing plates, like California, we have the License Plate Brackets that work with the factory tow hooks, and easily removable: STILLEN : STILLEN Front License Plate Bracket

Forrest 12-29-2009 01:19 AM

I live and bought my car in CALI, which requires front plates. North Bay Nissan in Petaluma never puts plates in. I would be mad if i had huge holes in mine like that.

Dwight Frye 12-29-2009 07:14 PM

I live in CA which is a front plate required state. Some cars I looked at on dealer lots had the plates installed and most had damage behind the plates from the overly long screw tips. The car I bought did not have the bracket or plate installed and when prepping it I told the dealer NFW to put it on or the deal was off. I've only been given a ticket once for no front plate and I'll continue to take my chances.

OldGuy 12-29-2009 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by speedworks (Post 346522)
It wouldn't suprise me that is says to do that. I have a front plate (required in my state), and after 1 year, I have two holes there because of the screws that hold the plate on - unfortunately, but realistically, they are too long, and stick into the bumper - not sure if this only happens when the wind pressure pushes the plate back or not, but if I look behind my plate, there are two screws jutting into the bumper into about that area where those holes are. If I ever move to another state, I would have to keep a plate on just to hide the marks. Another small mistake by Nissan. :mad:

When I objected, my dealer simply found two small matching black screws he inserted into the holes and no one knows there's anything there but me. They should always ask first---especially if the buyer, like me, is from out of state.

kannibul 12-29-2009 07:54 PM

wow...WTF.

HapHazard 12-29-2009 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa (Post 346284)

I puke in my mouth a little everytime I see this picture.

370Z_Fan 06-07-2010 05:36 PM

I wonder what's behind those 1 inch holes? Do you think rain or water/moisture will get in behind those holes easier and possibly corrode whatever is behind those holes?

Trips 06-07-2010 05:47 PM

Wow 95% is high but i'm happy to be in the 5% with no dealer holes, and I'm Cali.

KillerBee370 06-07-2010 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Forrest (Post 346586)
I live and bought my car in CALI, which requires front plates. North Bay Nissan in Petaluma never puts plates in. I would be mad if i had huge holes in mine like that.

Maybe that's the point. A deterent against NOT putting a front license plate on. Stupid idea though and mine didn't have these ridiculous holes in it.

PapoZalsa 06-07-2010 08:18 PM

WOW, this came back alive. Nissan replaced the bumper, but I'm sure that all kind of water and moisture would get in those holes.

However the Hall Nissan dealership body shop SUCKS!

MightyBobo 06-07-2010 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Z_Fan (Post 567073)
I wonder what's behind those 1 inch holes? Do you think rain or water/moisture will get in behind those holes easier and possibly corrode whatever is behind those holes?

Not much - just the crush bar really, and the temp sensor.

370Z_Fan 06-07-2010 10:20 PM

My front plate does not sit flush with the bracket. Should I be asking my dealer to drill those 1 inch holes so that the j-nuts will fit and the plate will lie flush with the bracket?

MightyBobo 06-07-2010 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Z_Fan (Post 567442)
My front plate does not sit flush with the bracket. Should I be asking my dealer to drill those 1 inch holes so that the j-nuts will fit and the plate will lie flush with the bracket?

Can you take a picture?

either way the answer is no though, more than likely lol. Those holes are a crime...

370Z_Fan 06-07-2010 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 567473)
Can you take a picture?

either way the answer is no though, more than likely lol. Those holes are a crime...

http://www.the370z.com/members/370z_...06-10-2248.jpg

Sorry about the picture quality, it came from my crappy 1.3 megapixel camera phone. This picture was taken top down. The orange arrow indicates the license plate bracket. The red arrow indicates the license plate. The blue double arrow indicates the gap between the plate and the license plate bracket. And the yellow arrow indicates the j-nut that sits between the plate and the license plate bracket. As you can see, the plate does not lie flush with the bracket.

MightyBobo 06-07-2010 11:40 PM

Thats...really crappy haha. I dont even know wtf Im looking at really, other than the license plate :-p. I need a better angle from the front to go with it, if you would, from the front/side.

Josh@STILLEN 06-07-2010 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 567533)
Thats...really crappy haha. I dont even know wtf Im looking at really, other than the license plate :-p. I need a better angle from the front to go with it, if you would, from the front/side.

It gets better when you give it a second.. he's saying the plate itself isn't flush with the bumper on both sides.

My question would be, is it 'flush' pointing forward, so that the plate appears to be straight if looking at it dead on, versus from up top.

If they're going for 'effectiveness' in making your plate visible, they probably shot for the plate being flush to the front, rather than flush with the curves of the front fascia.

PapoZalsa 06-08-2010 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN (Post 567551)
It gets better when you give it a second.. he's saying the plate itself isn't flush with the bumper on both sides.

My question would be, is it 'flush' pointing forward, so that the plate appears to be straight if looking at it dead on, versus from up top.

If they're going for 'effectiveness' in making your plate visible, they probably shot for the plate being flush to the front, rather than flush with the curves of the front fascia.


That is the "reason" supposdely for the holes too... :shakes head: :shakes head:

j.arnaldo 06-08-2010 09:24 AM

I guess we lucked out down here, since the govm't went the no-front-license-plate way, a few years back. Cute, cute is my beaZt's snout! Greetings, dudes!

PapoZalsa 06-08-2010 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j.arnaldo (Post 567762)
I guess we lucked out down here, since the govm't went the no-front-license-plate way, a few years back. Cute, cute is my beaZt's snout! Greetings, dudes!

What? A few year back? I went to PR in 2007 and don't recall seeing cars without front license plate.

I'm shock! :eek:

370Z_Fan 06-08-2010 05:05 PM

The pic I took was looking straight down (e.g. bird's eye view) of the front bumper. The plate is sticking away like 1/4 inch from the bracket.

madeinjapan 05-27-2016 10:17 AM

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek

TerribleONE 05-27-2016 10:22 AM

:wtf2:


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