End of an era
 

I will say that was a well balanced and fairly written article. - Of the many "the Z is dooomed" variants that have been released annually for the better portion of a decade.

I like the ones like this because I think it might also have the inverse effect of motivating buyers to get in on the decrepit ole' Z34 while it is still around.

Now I think I understand why Nissan went with the heritage stripes.:icon17:

Makes me realize again and again, why I bought my Z

Ditto! ;)

saw a pic of "of the new" toyota supra and dammned if doesnt look like a Z:ugh2:

Interesting thing is even without this article, the 370Z is one of those cars that most would owners never need to convince themselves about.

I'm not going to name drop other car communities, but there are some that kinda...."We've got a cool car guys...— oh, oh! the Camaro and Z are said to be worse cars in this article!"

heard it was auto-only.. and like all supras will probably be overpriced.

I go weeks and weeks without seeing another Z, I like that but it scares me that that will in it's self kill it.

US sales numbers have dropped from ~7400 in 2015, to ~ 4600 in 2017. And at the current 2018 monthly pace, Nissan will be lucky to reach the 3500 - 4000 unit mark. Given such a negative sales trajectory, and a platform nearing a decade in age, not sure if Nissan cares at all about continuing the Z much longer.

Sad...

Despite the low sales numbers, I can't go for a drive in San Diego California without seeing a 350 or a 370 at least once. Seeing them all the time here inspired me to finally buy one! (Because they look so cool)

Well maybe everyone who wants a new Z has finally managed to buy one over the past decade. Crazy idea, but make something new for people to buy.

My first car at 15 was a 1968 triumph gt6. I worked at a gas station down the road to pay for it. Small 2 seater with a heavy 6 in the front. After that came the 240z. It's the layout i learned to drive on and loved. The 370z to me delivers that same feeling. It's the best looking and driving car that I can comfortably afford. I appreciate it's basic analog nature and would not want to "upgrade" to a newer model of it doesn't keep with the philosophy of the original z.

Very similar story except I started with a bug eye (frog eye) Sprite. Then a TR-6. Went through a period where I didn't really care about cars much, but later in life found myself wanting that British sports car feeling without the reliability issues. Actually wanted a Miata, but my girlfriend has one. The Z fit perfectly.

The article was honest in its descriptions. The Z is it's own car. Unlike my camaro. It doesn't fit in one genre. The Z is part muscle, part sports, part roadster. It's a hybrid of different types of sports cars. And there's nothing wrong with that.

The Z will never be a car for the guy that wants to fit in a box. This car is for people who know what they want from their driving experience. Nissan did a great job back then.

I believe this car would be selling 10k units if the Z's headlights taillights and interior were more aggressively updated. Bringing the radio and nav up to date mainly. Giving the center gauges more purpose... maybe going digital/LED like some of the kooler aftermarket gauges.

The Mismo, should've gotten the red sport engine. Leave the base models N/A.

That could've sent the Z34 into 2020, rather strongly.

The Z35. A dual clutch for the Q60 and Z would be the smartest change.

The FM platform either needs to be changed or stiffened to its maximum. Cars like the Camaro are at least 20% stiffer. And that's before 1LE treatments. It shows more in the Q60 than the Z. But just imagine a chassis reinforced Z with the Mismo bracing. Also, they probably need to use more tensile steel to reduce weight. The Z has been a almost there car most of its life FOR NO REASON. These are improvements that don't need high research. Just a lot of dedication. That's what Nissan has been lacking.

BUT the Z is still in my eyes one of the GOAT's

the question is, are you happy with the Z....my answer is yes, what happens to the next generation is meaningless since I like what I have. I could have bought a Camaro, a Mustang, a BRZ, a GTR and the Z was what I wanted, now I'm a happy guy who smiles at it when I walk away from it and when I turn it on in the am.
If they discontinue, well the Celica is gone and I drove mine until it had 300 K and was in a glory even when it went from RWD to FWD...enjoy what you bought and stop looking into what the Z will look like or if it will go away, my 2 cents :driving:

I bought mine brand new (2018 pearl white sport tech M/T) about three weeks ago. I absolutely love it. First time Z owner.

The car is something else. It looks great. It’s rare (people stare a lot, im sure a lot more than if I were on a Mustang/Camaro which I can go rent at Avis LOL) and it’s just the right amount of fast. See it below!

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I do like the last little bit at the end

"But for the reasons that you can’t quite put your finger on, it is. For all its faults, the 370Z benefits from that thing that so few cars manage to nail. It’s got heart."

That's how i always feel about the Z. Aside from the great heritage/background, everything comes together nicely with the z and just brings me a smile even for all its flaws... i chose the Z regardless of other cars out there atm, i don't think all enthusiasts go strictly for performance anyways its about the car not so much the speed.. a buddy of mine just bought a 1990's something car not sure what didn't hear the name haha but he loves the car and knows there is something "faster" but thats not what its about to him and for me, the z is what im about, theres just something about the Z:yum:

I recently sold my 2010 Z because I just fell out of love with her. After 8 years of being together, the relationship just became not so special and decided to pull the trigger and divorce her. Over the past several years I didn't enjoy being with her like in the beginning and in the later years I just let her sit while incurring costs of paying insurance, registration, inspections and maintenance. I still like the body style and think she's sexy looking, but after riding her hard it just became an outdated model and I'm looking for something better to come along.

I said the same put the vr30dtt IB the nismo... been saying that since that motor rolled out. Gives them time to see how it performs in a lighter car, offer in manual so the enthusiast has that option over the q60 and then after 2 years you could then do a new body.

The mustang did this in 2011, same body but went from 310 to 425 hp coyote motor.... mustang I believe is one of the best selling sports cars. Why... well you get 425hp in a 30k car, it drives well and is decent looking.

If the z had the red sport motor with 400 plus hp for 43k or so it would decimate the competition. The only thing close is an M2 which is like 60k. The z with a light tune would destroy the mustang gt. Heck I hung with a modded GT in my lightly modded nismo. My car also is 700 pounds lighter with my titanium and spare yanked...

Be Happy with a great car
 

I revel in owning a Z.
The body style is a home run.
How many times have you turned and looked at your Z or had comments from strangers.

The 370Z is a classic car that you can buy restored as in brand new.
You can pick up low mile cars at great prices.

Being that the car has not changed much you can do so many modifications to the car at reasonable prices to be more competitive with competition.

Yes, the car needs an update in performance and technology.That will be for a new Z model.(Z35)

For now I enjoy my Classic roadster.

Hold on... you're talking about your car, right??? :rofl2:

Yes

Yes...for the OP, that's my lady I'm talking about not yours. :tiphat:

What am I missing here.I thought I was commenting on post from Pearl Zed.Not your car.

Bless your heart. :tiphat:

I remember being a teenager and seeing something very unusual, someone in the village, who apparently worked nightshift at a sliced bread factory, driving a red 240Z. From that day forward I always wanted one but had to wait until recently and settled for a 370Z.

I have had a Ford Focus RS Mk2 and a Holden LS2 V8 but I have never forgotten the red 240Z.

For me part of the fun is two seats , no real boot and the 240Z heritage - No contest.

I usually change my car every 2 or 3 years but my current car is currently a keeper especially if there are to be no more.

Its done 4K miles so far so plenty of life left in it.

That is my point, a car that is not seen in every corner, parking lot, streets in general a looker. This is my 1st 2 seater and the only car that I have people stare at without shame..lol :driving:

Tuners have a different mindset. Not that I tuned my Z to the extreme. But my braking and suspension tuning was fairly aggressive and I had a few core mods. We need new platforms once they are done tuning their cars and have pushed their cars to the limits they have set. Since the Z is a HERITAGE car. Loyal tuners are awaiting for the next evolution of their car. So they can enhance and push the limits of the car.... DON'T FORGET.

Car companies improve their cars from the modifications the consumer market invents, not vice versa. If you didn't have hungry tuners pining for a Z35 to mod and improve them? Nissan wouldn't have the ideas to make better cars at the factory.

You love your Z so much because all of those hungry tuners, putting in so much work in past Z's.

So if people were the way you perceive they should be. Sports cars would have never progressed to be as good as the Z34 is today.

There isn't only one type of enthusiast.

Really cool article. I was unaware that the person responsible for the Z passed away in 2015 at the age of 105. I am lucky to own a model Z that was created while he was still around. I do not see a reason to use my Z as some sort of trade-in or just outright part ways with being that I would not see the value in dollars outweigh personal value. I can’t predict the weather nor the future but I hope I have the ability to stick the Z somewhere safe to age when it comes time to drive something else due to starting a family etc. I think the 370z will age well in my opinion.

Agreed.


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5th Z with this one. 73 240Z, a pair of '83 turbo ZXs, and an 85 NA car....

this one just needs T Tops...lol

I like the car as is too, but 10-11 years without a refresh in today's day and age just shows Nissan's neglect for anything enthusiast related.

could be worse...Frontier is coming up on 15 years basically unchanged.

It reflects in their sales too. Nissan is just into making transportation appliances. The Rogue and Altima (both crap) are the bread and butter for the company.

Probably just as well. If they freshened the Z, they'd probably put a f#$%king CVT in it anyways....

End of an era
 

Hey bro. CVT is lit.

Lol?




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The Z is like a Ferrari. You don’t see them every day. At least not in my neck of the woods.

The 370z is that old car you always wanted but can still get as a new car.

No one seems to complain about the VW Golf/GT-I looking basically the same since 1974. And the Porsche 911 and it's descendents since 1966 (I mean, the profiles are nearly identical). Based on that, I think I can live with the same body style for the 370z over a 10 year period.

Good point.

Yeah, but I'm not sure the same can be true with all cars. When the cars are styled relatively subtly and they make incremental, but noticeable changes continuously over the years, I think the car can still feel fresh. Both 911s and GTIs have had their fair share of changes, but usually in relatively small styling cues and size (since everything seems to be getting bigger). But both of these cars are relatively neutral in design, nothing particularly aggressive or stand-out about them.

I think the Z has relatively aggressive styling and could go either way as far as aging well goes. So far, I still think it looks great, even if the interior needs a bit of an update (but the driver-centric layout of the interior is fantastic) as it still stylistically feels mid 2000s Japanese production.

This is all just my random opinion of course, feel free to feel otherwise haha.

Subtle tweaks and revisions to the engine, transmission and the interior, especially the gauges, would be welcomed in the Z. I think the body style is aging well.

They have the VR30DTT... I mean put that in the Z and call it a day... People will flock to trade their Z in.
Small subtle tweak Im not trading or selling mine to upgrade 10hp or some lame deal they do normally. Or add a piece of vinyl and think that will sell me.

I'm curious as to why they wouldn't just rebadge and adjust the Q60 to be a Z? Like G37 to 370z. Bring down the interior decor a little, make the seats a bit more aggressive, put in a standard gearbox, call it a day.