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onzedge 08-16-2017 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Justint5387 (Post 3685692)
If you never been beat by a Honda at auto-x, you must be an amazing driver or only auto-x at small events?

I frequent a lot of NorCal Autocrosses and I don't see any fast 370z. Only fast Z is the STU 350Z.
I autocross my 240Z, not my 370.

MaysEffect 08-16-2017 04:02 PM
Relative mute argument if you aren't tracking your car or driving against notable competition. There is no question there are some Civic's that would wipe the floor of a 240z or 370z. DAI Yoshihara's spoon civic for one. Are you calling a Formula drift champion a retard? A drift champion that would unquestionably smash the crap out of most of us in a rickety Ecobox. Or are you just making some blanketed joke.

DeliriousClam 08-16-2017 05:56 PM
This thread took a complete left turn

Justint5387 08-16-2017 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Zingston (Post 3685702)
Perhaps Onzedge is just a better driver....
Nope. The 240z out in Norcal arent fast either.

MaysEffect 08-16-2017 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Justint5387 (Post 3685891)
Nope. The 240z out in Norcal arent fast either.
Is that so....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYJ_7kl9sP8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VsJV-OmXN4

Angadoneal 08-17-2017 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by MaysEffect (Post 3685964)
That's fast :p what did that 240z eat ?? Civic rofl!!!!

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UNKNOWN_370 08-17-2017 08:45 AM
The way this conversation is going right here is EXACTLY why I'll NEVER own a civic.

If you own or like civics or BRZ's, the likelihood of spewing out ridiculousness in defense of your favorite econobox automobile is very high. Which means I have to associate myself with you by owning the car. And I don't wanna be associated with econobox performance activism for equal rights. You're in a civic. Accept it. You're not in a better car like the Z as Z owners must accept they don't own Porsche's n Porsche owners must accept. You're no Ferrari & Ferrari owners must accept you're no Bugatti.

In a civic, you're one upping a Kia Rio. That's one to grow on.

I'd never pay $45,000 for a civic when I can pay $25,000 for a GTi.

onzedge 08-17-2017 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Justint5387 (Post 3685891)
Nope. The 240z out in Norcal arent fast either.
My 240Z is fast and quite agile. It has the added benefit of not having the social stigma attached that is prerequisite with the Honda genre.

http://scontent.fmci1-2.fna.fbcdn.ne...a3&oe=5A2BE2F8

onzedge 08-17-2017 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3686027)
The way this conversation is going right here is EXACTLY why I'll NEVER own a civic.

If you own or like civics or BRZ's, the likelihood of spewing out ridiculousness in defense of your favorite econobox automobile is very high. Which means I have to associate myself with you by owning the car. And I don't wanna be associated with econobox performance activism for equal rights. You're in a civic. Accept it. You're not in a better car like the Z as Z owners must accept they don't own Porsche's n Porsche owners must accept. You're no Ferrari & Ferrari owners must accept you're no Bugatti.

In a civic, you're one upping a Kia Rio. That's one to grow on.

I'd never pay $45,000 for a civic when I can pay $25,000 for a GTi.
:iagree:

Zingston 08-17-2017 09:04 AM
Love your 240z! Just curious, what are its hp/torque specs?

DeliriousClam 08-17-2017 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3686027)
The way this conversation is going right here is EXACTLY why I'll NEVER own a civic.

If you own or like civics or BRZ's, the likelihood of spewing out ridiculousness in defense of your favorite econobox automobile is very high. Which means I have to associate myself with you by owning the car. And I don't wanna be associated with econobox performance activism for equal rights. You're in a civic. Accept it. You're not in a better car like the Z as Z owners must accept they don't own Porsche's n Porsche owners must accept. You're no Ferrari & Ferrari owners must accept you're no Bugatti.

In a civic, you're one upping a Kia Rio. That's one to grow on.

I'd never pay $45,000 for a civic when I can pay $25,000 for a GTi.
Why is there no "love" button?

Leingod 08-17-2017 09:39 AM
Hey now! I owned a 2013 Civic Si! I nicknamed it the bathtub!!!

It handled like a tub, was white like a tub, was slow like a tub, and running water from a tub sounded better than the noises it made.

Oh, and I could shift the stupid thing without touching the clutch. Everyone complains about 1-2 shifting in the Z, but the Civic's clutch was so light I could hulk smash my foot through the floor and not feel a single thing. Oh, and for 24k, it didn't even come with satellite radio.

That car single handily made me decide to NEVER own another Honda ever again.

Oh, and the Z had a higher rpm range than that POS Si did as well. V-TEC my arse.

Chuck33079 08-17-2017 09:48 AM
For all the bad rap Honda gets, mine was fantastic. It started every time, was good on gas and had enough torque to never bog down no matter how high I had let the grass grow since the last time I mowed. Also, just like their automobiles, it was stolen. :rofl2:

Leingod 08-17-2017 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3686051)
For all the bad rap Honda gets, mine was fantastic. It started every time, was good on gas and had enough torque to never bog down no matter how high I had let the grass grow since the last time I mowed. Also, just like their automobiles, it was stolen. :rofl2:
Was yours an older model? I ran blizzaks on mine all winter and it got stuck on 5 separate occasions. Once in a slight dusting of snow. Whenever the car sensed it lost traction, it cut literally all power to the point of stalling. Turning TC off just allowed me to melt the snow until the car found some traction and also allowed me to burn the clutch out of pure hatred for the thing.

Raeshlavik 08-17-2017 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3686051)
For all the bad rap Honda gets, mine was fantastic. It started every time, was good on gas and had enough torque to never bog down no matter how high I had let the grass grow since the last time I mowed. Also, just like their automobiles, it was stolen. :rofl2:

Chuck33079 08-17-2017 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Leingod (Post 3686054)
Was yours an older model? I ran blizzaks on mine all winter and it got stuck on 5 separate occasions. Once in a slight dusting of snow. Whenever the car sensed it lost traction, it cut literally all power to the point of stalling. Turning TC off just allowed me to melt the snow until the car found some traction and also allowed me to burn the clutch out of pure hatred for the thing.
Mine never got stuck. It was self propelled, and the 1.5hp pulled it along just fine. The Briggs and Stratton I replaced it with is just disappointing.

osbornsm 08-17-2017 10:32 AM
What in the actual hell happened to this thread?!?!?!?

Can we just say it has more torque and move on?

Or pick your flavor:
  • Understeer
  • Oversteer

Thank you drive thru.

DeliriousClam 08-17-2017 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3686057)
Mine never got stuck. It was self propelled, and the 1.5hp pulled it along just fine. The Briggs and Stratton I replaced it with is just disappointing.
Mine has 5.5hp and is stalling constantly :shakes head:

Magic Bus 08-17-2017 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Leingod (Post 3686048)
Hey now! I owned a 2013 Civic Si! I nicknamed it the bathtub!!!

It handled like a tub, was white like a tub, was slow like a tub, and running water from a tub sounded better than the noises it made.
:rofl2: Thanks for laughs!

onzedge 08-17-2017 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Zingston (Post 3686035)
Love your 240z! Just curious, what are its hp/torque specs?
My guess-timate is 220+ flywheel hp and as far as torque -- I am absolutely unsure...

The car weighs only 2200 pounds and I run a close ratio Borg Warner t-5 5 speed with an R-200 3.90 rear.

Every now and then I think about putting her on a dyno...

onzedge 08-17-2017 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Leingod (Post 3686048)
Hey now! I owned a 2013 Civic Si! I nicknamed it the bathtub!!!

It handled like a tub, was white like a tub, was slow like a tub, and running water from a tub sounded better than the noises it made.

Oh, and I could shift the stupid thing without touching the clutch. Everyone complains about 1-2 shifting in the Z, but the Civic's clutch was so light I could hulk smash my foot through the floor and not feel a single thing. Oh, and for 24k, it didn't even come with satellite radio.

That car single handily made me decide to NEVER own another Honda ever again.

Oh, and the Z had a higher rpm range than that POS Si did as well. V-TEC my arse.
:icon17:

Zatanna Z 08-17-2017 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3686027)
The way this conversation is going right here is EXACTLY why I'll NEVER own a civic.

If you own or like civics or BRZ's, the likelihood of spewing out ridiculousness in defense of your favorite econobox automobile is very high. Which means I have to associate myself with you by owning the car. And I don't wanna be associated with econobox performance activism for equal rights. You're in a civic. Accept it. You're not in a better car like the Z as Z owners must accept they don't own Porsche's n Porsche owners must accept. You're no Ferrari & Ferrari owners must accept you're no Bugatti.

In a civic, you're one upping a Kia Rio. That's one to grow on.

I'd never pay $45,000 for a civic when I can pay $25,000 for a GTi.

I agree with this to a certain extent. I would much rather have a Ferrari or Lamborghini over a Bugatti anyday though. And I think I might even rather have my Z over a Porsche. Porsche is still really nice though don't get me wrong. I just love my Z :)

MaysEffect 08-17-2017 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3686027)
If you own or like civics or BRZ's, the likelihood of spewing out ridiculousness in defense of your favorite econobox automobile is very high. Which means I have to associate myself with you by owning the car. And I don't wanna be associated with econobox performance activism for equal rights. You're in a civic. Accept it. You're not in a better car like the Z as Z owners must accept they don't own Porsche's n Porsche owners must accept. You're no Ferrari & Ferrari owners must accept you're no Bugatti.

In a civic, you're one upping a Kia Rio. That's one to grow on.
This is probably the most idiotically...unreasonable...nonsense commentary I've read all week...year...yes year.

However -
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I'd never pay $45,000 for a civic when I can pay $25,000 for a GTi.
I can agree to this based on reasoning alone, but everything before that was just heinous BS with zero bases. I don't even care for Civics or BRZ's. But to even make a statement like that...Is just simple minded ignorance.

"Ferrari owners must accept you're no Bugatti"... seriously wtf does that even mean. :confused: There isn't a single aspect to any argument where that makes any sense or even factually checks out. There are several Ferrari's that cost more, are worth more, and are faster than anything produced by Bugatti. The only claim behind a Bugatti (Veyron or Chiron) is acceleration and top speed, and in both regards there are cars that trump it, for less money or more. In a nut shell, the most recent Bugatti's are nothing more the exotic VW show pieces. Deny it...I dare you.

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I don't wanna be associated with econobox performance activism for equal rights.
This is borderline some hate speech a wannabe supremacist would say. Whether you like or not, you're associated...accept it. You bought a Japanese produced car like anyone who owns a Civic or BRZ.

MaysEffect 08-17-2017 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by onzedge (Post 3686030)
My 240Z is fast and quite agile. It has the added benefit of not having the social stigma attached that is prerequisite with the Honda genre.
You autocross with those tires?

Zingston 08-17-2017 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by MaysEffect (Post 3686257)
This is probably the most idiotically...unreasonable...nonsense commentary I've read all week...year...yes year.

However -

I can agree to this based on reasoning alone, but everything before that was just heinous BS with zero bases. I don't even care for Civics or BRZ's. But to even make a statement like that...Is just simple minded ignorance.

"Ferrari owners must accept you're no Bugatti"... seriously wtf does that even mean. :confused: There isn't a single aspect to any argument where that makes any sense or even factually checks out. There are several Ferrari's that cost more, are worth more, and are faster than anything produced by Bugatti. The only claim behind a Bugatti (Veyron or Chiron) is acceleration and top speed, and in both regards there are cars that trump it, for less money or more. In a nut shell, the most recent Bugatti's are nothing more the exotic VW show pieces. Deny it...I dare you.

This is borderline some hate speech a wannabe supremacist would say. Whether you like or not, you're associated...accept it. You bought a Japanese produced car like anyone who owns a Civic or BRZ.

Actually, this is probably the dumbest reply I've ever read... yeah, ever. Keep up the excellent work Mays!

Hang Ten!

MaysEffect 08-17-2017 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Zingston (Post 3686260)
Actually, this is probably the dumbest reply I've ever read... yeah, ever. Keep up the excellent work Mays!

Hang Ten!
From said person who's made nothing but shortsighted useless replies since joining. No wonder you don't like Californians, way too much mental energy for you. :icon17:

Zingston 08-17-2017 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MaysEffect (Post 3686268)
From said person who's made nothing but shortsighted useless replies since joining. No wonder you don't like Californians, way too much mental energy for you. :icon17:
Never once did I say I didn't like Californians. Perhaps you should do some research before making erroneous assumptions. Or at least work on your so called 'mental energy' for more accurate results.

DeliriousClam 08-19-2017 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by MaysEffect (Post 3686268)
From said person who's made nothing but shortsighted useless replies since joining. No wonder you don't like Californians, way too much mental energy for you. :icon17:
since this thread is going in 6 different directions already, mind if I ask a question? How the hell are you allowed to modify cars in CA with all the ***-backwards laws there?

onzedge 08-19-2017 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by MaysEffect (Post 3686258)
You autocross with those tires?
No. -- Toyo Proxes for autocross...

redondoaveb 08-19-2017 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DeliriousClam (Post 3686653)
since this thread is going in 6 different directions already, mind if I ask a question? How the hell are you allowed to modify cars in CA with all the ***-backwards laws there?
Besides CARB certified cai and cbe (doesn't have to be CARB certified), you're not ALLOWED to do much more. ;);)

Austinclr 08-20-2017 06:29 PM
I bought this at the airport a week or two ago and was super dissapointed the civic "beat" the Z but they had a 0-60 that seemed out of place for a Z but they did have a point with the open LSD.

UNKNOWN_370 08-21-2017 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by MaysEffect (Post 3686257)
This is probably the most idiotically...unreasonable...nonsense commentary I've read all week...year...yes year.

However -

I can agree to this based on reasoning alone, but everything before that was just heinous BS with zero bases. I don't even care for Civics or BRZ's. But to even make a statement like that...Is just simple minded ignorance.

"Ferrari owners must accept you're no Bugatti"... seriously wtf does that even mean. :confused: There isn't a single aspect to any argument where that makes any sense or even factually checks out. There are several Ferrari's that cost more, are worth more, and are faster than anything produced by Bugatti. The only claim behind a Bugatti (Veyron or Chiron) is acceleration and top speed, and in both regards there are cars that trump it, for less money or more. In a nut shell, the most recent Bugatti's are nothing more the exotic VW show pieces. Deny it...I dare you.

This is borderline some hate speech a wannabe supremacist would say. Whether you like or not, you're associated...accept it. You bought a Japanese produced car like anyone who owns a Civic or BRZ.
First off, very little to nobody gives a fvck what you agree with. Trust me on that. I been here a long time. N I even went thru a phase of acting like the pure bytch u being right now. I hadn't got pvssy in three months. So there's your cure my man.

The Ferrari Bugatti n so forth analogies are not based on preference. They are based on power, performance n u get that you pay for.

When a challenger demon can take a corner like a BUGATTI, have a Bugatti interior and so forth, I'll call them equal. But it can't. So solely getting to 60 in 2.3 seconds doesn't make them equal. This is my point.
I don't own a civic or. BRZ so I'm not associated with them just by owning a Japanese car....
It's funny that you state I made a supremacist statement. Well you just made a stereotypical one. You're saying that Japanese people make one model car and they all feel the same thru the ranges? See how easy it is to do what you do, slouch.

Having to break shyt down to the last compound cuz you try to twist people's points is about the most idiotic thing any forum has to deal with.



:gtfo2:

Driftomodachi 08-21-2017 10:26 AM
Some marques have a sense of false entitlement lol

onzedge 11-28-2017 07:26 AM
Bump

vtec to vvel 11-28-2017 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by chuck33079 (Post 3684225)
****, this genius is back? Did you buy yet another z or are you just lost? Someone needs to turn off the wifi at the nursing home.
lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!

vtec to vvel 11-28-2017 09:15 PM
My opinion: the new ctr is fast. but at the end of the day, it’s still a civic. and I’m def not going to spend $40k+ on a fcuking civic.

Leingod 11-29-2017 06:48 AM
As a former Civic Si owner. I'll take my broken Ford Focus over it any day.

onzedge 11-29-2017 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3684225)
****, this genius is back? Did you buy yet another Z or are you just lost? Someone needs to turn off the wifi at the nursing home.
:icon17:

felix0121 01-12-2018 07:51 PM
I own and like my Z, but the 370Z model now turns around ten years old.

No company can be perfect in all aspects, and Honda made their own masterpiece.

I guess a Civic R would be equipped with newer technologies than a 370Z over all.

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