Nissan 370Z Forum

Nissan 370Z Forum (http://www.the370z.com/)
-   Nissan 370Z General Discussions (http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-general-discussions/)
-   -   2018 370Z pricing announced (http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-general-discussions/122607-2018-370z-pricing-announced.html)

mlsully 07-11-2017 09:48 AM

2018 370Z pricing announced
 
I posted in the pricing and ordering sub topic, but figure I would link it here as well for more exposure to the community.

Nissan announces U.S. pricing for 2018 370Z Coupe, 370Z NISMO and 370Z Roadster - Nissan Online Newsroom

Jayhovah 07-11-2017 09:53 AM

What is dead may never die.

babyzilla 07-11-2017 12:14 PM

Thanks for posting. Regarding article...no comment...

Zthirty4NISMO 07-11-2017 01:13 PM

Interesting they went with a 'performance' Exedy clutch. Also trying to play the RJM game and offering the nismo with a light pedal effort version..

Will be interesting to hear some feedback on this..

BboyZ 07-11-2017 03:26 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Wow, 2018 nismo tech is 66lbs heavier compare to 16 and 17 nismo tech.
2016 nismo tech
http://www.the370z.com/attachments/n...nismo-tech.jpg

2018 nismo tech
http://www.the370z.com/attachments/n...nismo-tech.jpg

UNKNOWN_370 07-11-2017 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zthirty4NISMO (Post 3673564)
Interesting they went with a 'performance' Exedy clutch. Also trying to play the RJM game and offering the nismo with a light pedal effort version..

Will be interesting to hear some feedback on this..

I expected this update on the Nismo. I couldn't imagine the "Heritage Edition" couldn't get a racing clutch without it going in the Nismo.

What I think is slightly more exciting are the Dunlop Sport MAXX tires. 20% less rolling resistance should give the Z a pretty nice bump in acceleration. The 2016 Z averaged about 4.9 seconds with the manual. Between the clutch and tires I'm expecting to see a dramatic improvement in manual acceleration and... a mild improvement in the auto. We should see a consistent 4.5 on the auto to 60. Hopefully about 4.7 on the manual. The nismo already gets stronger acceleration over 60meh, as the 18 HP tune affects the car at high revs, not low revs. I'm glad I waited for a 2018. As soon as there's one to test drive, I will hop in and just order. Fukk it. The Nismo is a bigger improvement over the sport, I think?

What boggles me is 2018 price. I think they killed off the no nav nismo. I didn't want that nav. It looks outdated like mad.

UPDATE.

Careful reading shows they cancelled the base nismo. Bad call Nissan. I guess nav was the biggest seller but shyt. Some enthusiasts don't want ANY tech.

New color for regular Z's. Nismo neglected again on a colorless palette. I'm debating I should go auto or get a manual. If I get a manual I guess the 2018. If not, I can get a great deal on a 2017 base sitting on a lot.

Anyone buying a non nismo should get passion red. It has a smoke clearcoat. Should look hot.

Zthirty4NISMO 07-11-2017 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3673613)
What I think is slightly more exciting are the Dunlop Sport MAXX tires. 20% less rolling resistance should give the Z a pretty nice bump in acceleration.

I also found this interesting. I may keep this in mind for replacements if I don't decide to go wider..

UNKNOWN_370 07-11-2017 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BboyZ (Post 3673607)
Wow, 2018 nismo tech is 66lbs heavier compare to 16 and 17 nismo tech.
2016 nismo tech
http://www.the370z.com/attachments/n...nismo-tech.jpg

2018 nismo tech
http://www.the370z.com/attachments/n...nismo-tech.jpg

Thanks for pointing that out. They probably made a lot more updates than written. Well have to wait and see. I think it's sound deadening and some type of interior or spoiler upgrade? Maybe?

babyzilla 07-11-2017 04:07 PM

I was hoping they would end this once in for all by either ending production or planning for the z35....not by updating the current z34 with some minor stuff here and there.

HIZZY 07-11-2017 04:27 PM

wow, so happy i got the 17 non-tech nismo when i did!

280z/300zx 07-11-2017 05:02 PM

Pricing needs to come down about 10k. No way a NISMO Z is worth 45k by a long shot. If Nissan is dead set on keeping the 370z around they need to be lowering the price, not raising it or maintain it. The other cars in the 40-45k available are just too potent

Hotrodz 07-11-2017 05:55 PM

I don't like the price either but no one makes a two seater sportscar that delivers like the Nismo in the price range. We can gripe all we want about keeping up with the pony cars but Nissan doesn't give a rats a$$ about that because there is no way for them to complete with the big three they volume of sales are way to high.

Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk

Dream Team 07-11-2017 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3673682)
I don't like the price either but no one makes a two seater sportscar that delivers like the Nismo in the price range. We can gripe all we want about keeping up with the pony cars but Nissan doesn't give a rats a$$ about that because there is no way for them to complete with the big three they volume of sales are way to high.

Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk

I think that is the point....these are not in the same category as the pony cars. They have 4 seats and weigh over 3700 pounds last I checked. Different driving feel and dynamic. No the Z has no real competitor and Nissan sells around 6000 a year which is pretty good for a rather impractical 2 seat sports car that has been around for almost a decade. Besides based on the rumors coming out of Nissan many on hear will not like the next Z if it offers no manual or isn't naturally aspirated or heaven forbid is some type of sporty crossover.

UNKNOWN_370 07-11-2017 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 280z/300zx (Post 3673654)
Pricing needs to come down about 10k. No way a NISMO Z is worth 45k by a long shot. If Nissan is dead set on keeping the 370z around they need to be lowering the price, not raising it or maintain it. The other cars in the 40-45k available are just too potent

Your $10k price cut is way OD. No other car in this price range has this level of body bracing and suspension tuning. We're the only coupe in the price range with hydraulic steering. The improvements on the clutch were made without a price hike. I think that's great. I think the Z Nismo is not a horrible deal. I'd say they're about $3,000 overpriced. The Yamaha dampers, rays wheels, brake cooling $5,000 recaros. You want that for $35k and 350HP, with a pretty striking body kit, with that grey and red accent line that's hand painted in an EXPENSIVE enamel paint?

I think the nismo is a decent deal at the moment. I used to think like you and then I dissected all the engineering that goes into a Nismo.

They can't be had $42k street price. That's just crazy, for what it is.

Airwilf 07-11-2017 09:00 PM

Anyone buying a non nismo should get passion red. It has a smoke clearcoat. Should look hot.[/QUOTE]

Picked my 2018 Passion Red one month ago today.It's the Touring Sport Coupe as it's referred to in Canada & the only one I've seen, including checking most of the local dealers. Lovin it so far, lots of new high tech stuff compared to my ex 73 240Z ! Looking forward to the first coat or two of polish to add some depth to the colour.I'm hoping it has the "improved" clutch after all of the threads I've read recently regarding the cs:tiphat:

NecioVato 07-11-2017 09:15 PM

I'm just mind boggled that the Nismo edition (which isn't really 'special' anymore bc they made it a trim level for numerous cars) is close to $50k. I mean, anyone who is considering a new vs used - it's hard to justify getting a Nismo edition for that much. I mean, the minor upgrades here and there - still doesn't do anything to me. Either bring on a new Z35 or at least look to increase the HP and performance in the car in general. I feel like this car hasn't changed (bc it hasn't) in the last 9 years.

**Disclaimer - I LOVE my Z - I wouldn't trade it for anything else at the moment but if I was looking at a new Z - I could easily cross shop it against better vehicles out there for either a little more or much less money. Just saying.

Ventruck 07-11-2017 09:46 PM

Sad part is, if I needed a car, like don't even have my Z, and my budget was in the 45k range, I would be thinking about the Nismo.

It's not so much bang-for-buck but what I probably would like most in the end, barring a killer deal on used C7 or something.

nis350 07-11-2017 10:50 PM

curious if they redesigned the csc with the new clutch?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zthirty4NISMO (Post 3673564)
Interesting they went with a 'performance' Exedy clutch.


Jayhovah 07-11-2017 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nis350 (Post 3673776)
curious if they redesigned the csc with the new clutch?

That's a good question.

BboyZ 07-12-2017 12:38 AM

definitely good question regarding on CSC.

sx moneypit 07-12-2017 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayhovah (Post 3673779)
That's a good question.

:iagree:

nis350 07-12-2017 11:45 AM

it will likely to reduce the longevity of the csc if the pressure plate is stronger with the new clutch.

Jayhovah 07-12-2017 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCZ (Post 3673948)
Does this mean the CSC problem has been eliminated?

We can only speculate.

KCZ 07-12-2017 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayhovah (Post 3673953)
We can only speculate.

I'd speculate a 2018 right into my garage if I knew the CSC problem was fixed.

Jayhovah 07-12-2017 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCZ (Post 3674021)
I'd speculate a 2018 right into my garage if I knew the CSC problem was fixed.

Is that the only thing that is holding you back? There are plenty of upgrade options for this part.

nis350 07-12-2017 03:56 PM

:iagree:



Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayhovah (Post 3674024)
Is that the only thing that is holding you back? There are plenty of upgrade options for this part.


KCZ 07-12-2017 06:27 PM

I know, I've read that whole thread. I can't work on my own cars any more due to a back injury (this repair was probably above my pay grade anyway) and it's really hard to find anyone who can do that type of work where I live out in the boondocks. I love my 350Z, but it's 15 years old, and I think I'd like a newer Z before Nissan potentially moves to an I4 TT with the next gen.

Juan@Fontana 07-12-2017 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nis350 (Post 3673776)
curious if they redesigned the csc with the new clutch?

knowing nissan they probably re-engineered the entire clutch assembly. (doubt it) because the slave cylinder hasn't changed part number :)

UNKNOWN_370 07-13-2017 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NecioVato (Post 3673762)
I'm just mind boggled that the Nismo edition (which isn't really 'special' anymore bc they made it a trim level for numerous cars) is close to $50k. I mean, anyone who is considering a new vs used - it's hard to justify getting a Nismo edition for that much. I mean, the minor upgrades here and there - still doesn't do anything to me. Either bring on a new Z35 or at least look to increase the HP and performance in the car in general. I feel like this car hasn't changed (bc it hasn't) in the last 9 years.

**Disclaimer - I LOVE my Z - I wouldn't trade it for anything else at the moment but if I was looking at a new Z - I could easily cross shop it against better vehicles out there for either a little more or much less money. Just saying.

That's why they make a base and a sport. Those insignificant mods and minor updates on the nismo, keep your car from flexing on track. That's race car shyt. Not even our competitors come with that. Those are mods that are typically outsourced in the aftermarket and cost about $8,000 by themselves. Then you get the akebono lsd, recaros and now the exedy clutch.

If you're not into religious tracking? You buy the sport model. Nissan didn't add 18 HP to the nismo to make it faster. They added 18HP to compensate for the extra weight of EXPENSIVE body bracing. So if you're not on track? You won't be losing out if you buy a sport!

Let's not forget the Nismo has different shocks, Yamaha dampers, different tires and wheels. I think that street price being $42,000 is a really good deal.

Getting rid of the base nismo was dumb as fukk though. They just alienated the hardcore enthusiast who cares about taking 50lbs out their car.

Jayhovah 07-13-2017 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCZ (Post 3674051)
I know, I've read that whole thread. I can't work on my own cars any more due to a back injury (this repair was probably above my pay grade anyway) and it's really hard to find anyone who can do that type of work where I live out in the boondocks. I love my 350Z, but it's 15 years old, and I think I'd like a newer Z before Nissan potentially moves to an I4 TT with the next gen.

I can certainly understand that... but anyone who can do a clutch job can install a ZSpeed HD CSC. =) Good luck!

babyzilla 07-13-2017 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3674202)
That's why they make a base and a sport. Those insignificant mods and minor updates on the nismo, keep your car from flexing on track. That's race car shyt. Not even our competitors come with that. Those are mods that are typically outsourced in the aftermarket and cost about $8,000 by themselves. Then you get the akebono lsd, recaros and now the exedy clutch.

If you're not into religious tracking? You buy the sport model. Nissan didn't add 18 HP to the nismo to make it faster. They added 18HP to compensate for the extra weight of EXPENSIVE body bracing. So if you're not on track? You won't be losing out if you buy a sport!

Let's not forget the Nismo has different shocks, Yamaha dampers, different tires and wheels. I think that street price being $42,000 is a really good deal.

Getting rid of the base nismo was dumb as fukk though. They just alienated the hardcore enthusiast who cares about taking 50lbs out their car.

Do you think this will negatively or positively impact the prices for new, non-tech nismos sitting on the lot? Just curious. It could be viewed either way:
1. Customer wants non-tech. Nissan doesn't make them anymore. Supply is low + demand is high = higher price/ less room to bargain
2. Reports show more tech models have been sold. Nissan discontinues non-tech version. Dealerships are looking to get rid of the non-tech nismos to get tech versions in.

...Does my rational make sense?

SS_Firehawk 07-13-2017 11:30 AM

Nissan at least is giving us something that improves the car again. My old Advan Sports were okay, but they weren't any better than the RE 50's. The S001's were marginally better, but it should have been more aggressive. The Nismo suspension is tight enough to handle a stickier tire without it feeling like it's going to roll over on it's self from the extra stick.

It's gone a long way from the 1st gen Nismo's. 3.91 (3.69 for auto's) gears, Exedy clutch, better tires, recaro seats, GTR brake fluid, hardened brake lines, tech features, and blacked out headlights.

Those are genuine improvements, too bad it took the span of 8 years. An optional package that upgraded the oil cooler, differential, and brake pads would have been an easier sell than the outdated nav system.

Not sure where that 3463 weight is coming from. Nissan put out the 2018 Nismo 370Z weighs 3339lbs. The Auto was 3389.

I still love my 13' Nismo. The color, wheels, body kit, more aggressive suspension tuning, the fact that this is my 2nd Z34, and a rumored new one coming out (whenever or if ever that happens) holds me steadfast.

Interesting, fund a review, and I see the Dunlop tires on it
http://driving.ca/nissan/370z/review...san-370z-nismo

UNKNOWN_370 07-13-2017 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babyzilla (Post 3674213)
Do you think this will negatively or positively impact the prices for new, non-tech nismos sitting on the lot? Just curious. It could be viewed either way:
1. Customer wants non-tech. Nissan doesn't make them anymore. Supply is low + demand is high = higher price/ less room to bargain
2. Reports show more tech models have been sold. Nissan discontinues non-tech version. Dealerships are looking to get rid of the non-tech nismos to get tech versions in.

...Does my rational make sense?

I think non enthusiasts buy the Nismo as a look at me car, so the need for non tech is low. This is why you find so many used New Nismo cars. People buy them for show. Find out the ride is really hard. They're too stupid to realize Swift Spec -R will fix that and improve performance. And they sell the Nismo. Hence a wide selection of used Nismo's since 2016. The non tech nismo will be in high demand a few years down the line, when REAL enthusiasts want a used Z nismoin the $20k range. They will prefer the non tech model.

These mid life crisis fukk boys buying the Nismo now, don't even know what they bought.

KCZ 07-14-2017 06:13 PM

Nissan has the 2018 on their configurator now. The Nismo comes in magnetic black, with pearl white as a $395 option. No more red or silver. Seriously?

triso07 07-15-2017 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCZ (Post 3674789)
Nissan has the 2018 on their configurator now. The Nismo comes in magnetic black, with pearl white as a $395 option. No more red or silver. Seriously?

I wish they did a grey :(

triso07 07-15-2017 07:33 AM

Is that gun metallic a different color than previous years? Looks darker and more blue in the pictures.

UNKNOWN_370 07-15-2017 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCZ (Post 3674789)
Nissan has the 2018 on their configurator now. The Nismo comes in magnetic black, with pearl white as a $395 option. No more red or silver. Seriously?

I can understand the red. The red on the red accent line just looked stupid. But SILVER? That was the ONLY color of interest for me. I guess I'll be going out today and hunt a Silver 2017, non tech nismo. Nissan just doesn't know **** about ****. Everything is bottom line.

KCZ 07-15-2017 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3674904)
I can understand the red. The red on the red accent line just looked stupid. But SILVER? That was the ONLY color of interest for me. I guess I'll be going out today and hunt a Silver 2017, non tech nismo. Nissan just doesn't know **** about ****. Everything is bottom line.

Yes, the choices are a 2017 in the color you want, vs a 2018 in a color you don't want but with the Exedy and Dunlops. As for me, I wanted red. :mad: Do they really anticipate selling so few of these cars that it wouldn't pay them to set up to spray some body parts in silver and red? Or God forbid, yellow or blue? You'd think that if 2018 really is the last year for the 370Z Nismo, they'd give us one color option (black and white are not colors).

Rant over.

markesc 07-15-2017 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by triso07 (Post 3674873)
I wish they did a grey :(

MIDNIGHT Blue!!!

ohhbcase 07-15-2017 03:08 PM

I'm torn between upgrading to a '18 NISMO or just sticking to my plan and purchasing a GTR.. Always loved the NISMO but for that price, I could probably find a used GTR around the same range.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:29 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2