I drove mine for 3 winters in Calgary. Did better than I expected, never got stuck.

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...and a 2017 STi's curb weight is 3386 lbs vs the 370z + sport package weighing in at 3292 lbs. So your point is what again?

Anyone that would dare suggest such a wacky question absolutely deserves a Subaru.

Hang ten bro!

STI limited with the huge wing delete is on my shortlist of sedans to replace the Z. I loved my Z but I'm looking to consolidate cars for awhile so it had to go. Never thought I'd be the guy saying I want the rear seat/second set of doors but after having a kid and never having time for the Z anymore, here I am.

My biggest concern with the STI is it still seems to have ringland issues when stock. A tune seems to resolve the problem but then voids your warranty. Lose/Lose almost.

No, you should not get an STi, as a matter of fact in my field of work a lot of people really try to avoid getting them.

Too much dude

I drove mine in less than 1 inch of snow (took it out of storage early) and I almost got stuck going into a Tim Hortons drive thru which had a gradual incline. I was idling up it and going sideways. The Z in stock form from the factory is worse than any car I have drove for winter purposes.
Summer is another story :driving:

I've driven two winters in NJ so far. Only time it was bad was when the rear tires were bald.

Got nothing to add except I saw this parked next to me today. Looks nice blacked out
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Your Z looks much better than the STI.


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Simply put, both cars are nice but if I was looking at AWD - I would at least test drive a RS or a Golf R. Simply put, both of those cars have more advantages than the STI. Don't get me wrong, the STI is nice but I were looking at a Subie, I would consider the WRX and tune it rather than go with a STI - the WRX has the newer and 'better' engine whereas the current STI has the same engine as the previous models. Probably could mod a WRX for much cheaper than a STI...just my .02

Really love my friends WRX, She makes me want an Sti everytime i get into it. Wish the Z was more practical sometimes.

Bad pics, Will have to get some good ones

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This 100%. I won't hate on the subie as they are pretty nice cars but the STI was pushing it from the factory and there are more than enough people that have had ring issues stock. So if you can't give the car 100% without fear that's it's gonna blow then why even bother with that much power since you'll either a have enough money to cover it when it blows (in which case your lucky and by all means buy an sti) or b you'll hold back or won't ever think to track it because you'll worry about what if it blows, at that point you should have saved the money and got a wrx. The new wrx is a much better and newer engine with fairly close power, your talking roughly 30hp stock which isn't huge and also isn't nothing but a wrx with a tune could bring you even nearer and will put just as much smile on your face all the while knowing you aren't on an engine that's already expired (Asian sti is already on the newer engine). As for RS or golf R I can't speak for fords euro branch but vw I would stay away from.

At the end of the day they are both good cars. I prefer my z but my friends wrx is not a bad car, another friend destroyed his new sti in a matter of months (ps the gas mileage is way less than advertised in real world driving) but it seems to be a car that encourages getting on it but then can't take the repeated demand.

Easy answer there but,the only thing I don't care for on the Subaru STI is the park bench in the clouds high spoiler. Overall if you look at the facts the Subaru STI is a reliable/dependable vehicle just like the Nissan 370Z is. In my experience the Nissan 370Z is not only the best vehicle I ever owned and it is reliable/dependable too you just have to do all the maintenance on them on time just like you would any other vehicle.

Except it's not. The current Sti has a nasty habit of cracking ringlands. To comply with emissions regs, Subaru programmed in a nasty lean spot on spoolup, where they should have been going richer. If you're willing to reflash the ecu in the parking lot of the dealer before you drive it home, you'll be fine - except you just voided the warranty before you know if you got a lemon.