WARNING: Trump mayruin us getting next Z.
 

Nissan Could Face The Biggest Risk If Trump Makes Good On His Mexico Threats

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I'm only guessing here but... But if these tariff proposals succeed. It would affect how Nissan is able to sell cars. If this happens... If a Z is in the works for production? Negative relations with Japan May lead to a lack of importation of enthusiast vehicles. Tarrifs May make our cars too expensive making them unattainable in our market? This fvckin sucks. :ugh2::mad::bs:

You'll have to come to Canada to buy yours.

PS Z's are built in Japan.

:facepalm:

Despite Mr. Trump's election, our political class has a "don't rock the boat" attitude. They figure they have a pretty sweet setup going, and don't want to chance messing it up.
Rhetoric to the contrary, I don't see a whole lotta change coming our way.
Now, Nissan, on the other hand.... My guess, and that's all it is is a guess, is that they will stop production on the 370 in the next year or 2, and put the Z badge on the shelf for a while.
Look at it. Base models are selling for about 3k off MSRP, Sports are around 4k and Nismo's and roadsters for 5 to 6k off. Volume is mediocre at best.
Nissan's focus seems to be family cars (OK. All mfrs have to. It's their bread and butter.) with the GT-R being their flag-waving marque. We get what little bit of attention they have left. Kind of like middle child syndrome, lol.
We don't have any direct competition in the US. Or, direct comparison, anyway. 6-cyl mustangs and Camaros. Cars nobody talks about. Toyota's 86 is 200 horses and Honda's civic is about the same. Genesis coupe is a competitor, but it's marque is going thru a transition.
It pretty much boils down to...Nissan don't need us no more.

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Damn. That went long.
Sorry about that.

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My Z was made in California!

I thought all 370Zs were built in Japan. When did they start making them in Mexico?

I think he just had too much to drink last night..

Yeah. Calm down, the Z has always been made in Japan.

I plan to keep my Z for about three more years and then I'll see what's next. I'm in my mid 50's so my appetite for sporty transportation may change by then. I can't imagine what the options will be for the now generation in the next several decades.

Genesis coupe as you know it is no more. Hyundai won't be building that type of sports car.

I am calm. It doesn't matter that the Z is made in Japan. You're not looking at the whole picture.

If Nissan can't import the sentra and versa without charging us an extra 31% import tariff. It will most likely kill off the sentra and versa sales in this country. The sentra is trades back and forth between altimas as their best selling brand in this country.

Being that Trump will probably increase ALL import tax. We will probably see a hike of at least 4 to 10%. You're looking at an increase
$1,200-3000. The Z barely sells know cuz most people think its $3,000 to expensive. If a new Z is designed with 400hp and new tech. We may be looking at $40K start for a 400hp base Z. A tax hike may make it up to $44,000 putting Nissan back in the overpriced predicament. If the top tier car is $50K. Mr Trumps plan makes the top line Z $55K. People will rather buy the Z51 C7 cuz all they will see is 55 more HP.

It would make the Z not worth buying to most people. The Z would need 500hp to compete. N Nissan won't give us 55K and 500hp. They didn't even put 215 hp in the Sentra Nismo.

All I'm saying is. These types of policies can grossly affect the import market.

Now imagine they give us the overpriced Z anyway? Do you know what would happen to mod prices cuz of this. Volume drops mod prices. The less a car sells, the more expensive the mods and the less people are willing to design and engineer aftermarket parts.

Carlos Ghosn promised us a new Z. It's coming. Now if it gets imported to this country is something else.

When we buy sporty cars in our 40s it a "midlife crisis"

When we buy them later (I'm 61) we're just guys who like sporty cars and can afford them.

Amen, xhil. I ain't tryin' to relive anything. I never had anything worth reliving until after I turned 40. I'm 53 now, and this is probably the car I'm gonna keep. I don't like Corvettes (aesthetically. Don't y'all get your panties in a twist) and everyone has a Mustang. This one's special and unique enough.

Kirk B.

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That's why I bought mine when I was 38...:rolleyes:;)

Requesting my click back......

sounds more like end of life bucket list

Could be for someone I guess. This 370 is perhaps my 20th two seater or 2+2.

Before the final curtain I could love an Aston and a Bentley, then a beat up old truck to drive around with my turn signal always on.

I feel the exact same way..

I don't sell/trade my vehicles,,,so this wouldn't affect me;As i am pleased with what i have & just keep repairing them as needed & driving...Modding as $$$$ will allow me to.
:)

Well,America already is the Cheapest place in the world to own a Car,10% taxes is nothing,come to S'pore,you will know how much Taxes we paid,for example,a Thai made Camry 2.5 will costed S$150,000[US$102,000]...a new 370z[no more imported] will be around S$250,000 today here...

is someone forcing u to live in Singapore? just move out.

:iagree: Canada & Europe too! We get off relatively easy here in this GREAT COUNTRY of ours! Food, gas, housing, most everything! I love this place!

so bragging u can afford a Z and 20+ sports cars in da USA is pretty silly.

every Singaporeans can probably do it if in da USA. :icon17: haha

But remember, spread over several decades.

Apologies if that seemed a brag. I like this Z and am glad to be here.

I am still proud of being a Singaporean,at least,we got very strict Guns & Drugs control,so is very safe.

:wtf2: My life span would be very short over there

The sky is falling.....the sky is falling......:gtfo2:

It's kind of hard to incorporate that kind of logic to justify a means to an end. We might get cars and gas cheaper than anywhere else, but we're responsible for so much more than anywhere else. Medical care is most expensive here, education is a costly priveldge, not a right here, income ratios to the cost of living ate out of wack here,moreso than in other places. When you average it out. Cost of living in first world countries are very close to each other. It's just one place will be cheap for one thing. Expensive for another.... It's just reversed how your money is taken.

What about FREEDOM!
Things cost so much because of the restrictions that are imposed on you!
That said, I'll take my guns & drugs and :happydance: party on!

Back on topic.

US consumers are price sensitive and it is also the largest. One way to get around this is to to build more factories here in the homeland. It already being done and the sign if the times. Bravo...a long time coming. I wouldn't mind if my Z35 is 100% American built by a regular Joe in Tennessee. How 'bout you?

:tup: I'm from j-land (pops brought me here long time ago and already left after he retired) and I decided to stay in the USA.. I luv it here, no way in hell I can have 4 cars all paid off no mortgage no credit card debt and still have money to spare at my age in j-land.

will probably move back when I'm about to croak though. :rofl2:

From all the vehicles I bought that were assembled in the USA or Mexico, there has not been one car (including j-car) with zero big issue.. :ugh:
but my GTI I bought last year, thing is probably better dan their Germany made GTI's. no issue! :tup:

Well said Mr Rafael :iagree:

The great recession left a ever lasting impact..

Reported!!

Uggghhhh. No! Let Americans stick to building trucks. America was never able to build a car as good as the Z without going completely electronic assist like the camaro and corvette.
No disrespect to my fellow Americans but. Germany Japan Italy and do it better. Even though Germany unnecessarily resorted to computers too.

I didn't give a political opinion. I just reported a potential change in the automotive industry relative to a potential tax increase. That increase May possibly effect the availability of certain cars in this country. As thin of a line the discussion is.... it's not a political one. As long as we refrain from identifying parties. Giving an personal opinion on our president or start making comments like one or two members started doing already. Namely Chan Chee Ho It is NOT A POLITICAL THREAD.

uk370....I think he was yanking your chain, lol.

Kirk B.

Look at this exciting Nissan News. LMAO

NISSAN CONFIRMS 200 miles out of LEAF!!

Wow! Cool! Gee, why did get a sportscar, again? Lol.

Kirk B.

The way I see it is we have been sending a lot of our industry to other countries, which helps them. We also important their goods with no tariffs, which also helps them. These same countries do little to nothing for us. They impose huge trade tariffs on our goods in their country, which largely keeps our goods from being sold in those countries.

Now if we can come to a deal that is mutually beneficial, then maybe imports won't be marked up for sale here in the US. One hand washes the other kinda thing.

Just my $0.02