How did you come up with this analysis? Tuners who go for automatics and have to pay high insurance rates and older generation without kids who go for manual and can afford insurance? ********* **** ***** *****

Edited to be nice. Property value in this neighborhood has gone down a little. LOL.

If anyone wanted real talk, my analysis is as follows.

No one that can "afford" a 20k+ used Z is going to buy one and will get a Porsche/m3/4/Corvette instead, especially from a private party. Or a new C7 Corvette on 60 month stretch pay considering you can get one for less than 50k now.

The Z is stuck in a shitty market place at the moment, it is not cheap enough to be ragged on by high schoolers, and it is not expensive enough for those that have the money to buy it, because they will go other directions.

This has nothing to do with the transmission and or color of the car, those are personal preferences.

I like it because of the history. It is different from other cars and the used 370z are getting below 20k. Its still a looker. If you want a fast car buy 1 and quit wasting your money with upgrades, just go buy a corvette. :driving:

its for the people in the middle of what you just stated (18-22k second car range)

also i had a 350 back in the dayz so now i wanted a 370

Why has the Honda S2000 been able to keep it's resell value tho? and its much older than the Z. I don't get it :ugh2:

I love my automatic, coming from a Por car I think this year they are all PDK automatics, no MT from what I read..

These are two different cars, different stories behind it, it has been discontinued, and there's not a lot of them out there that are in decent shape either so of course the price will hold for a well kept S2k. Compare that to a 350Z vert and that'll tell you another story.

Right now the competition is tough for the Z. I say just enjoy the Z for what it is. It is a great car regardless of where it sits in the market place.

Those values are getting soft now also... the halo days for most sports cars are done now. The market has gotten saturated.

We have to remember here that from 08-11 everyone unloaded the sports cars to be more sensible, and now it is like the reverse happening... Everyone was trying to get their "babys" back from the crisis.

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Again, clueless...

I was never "ragging" on your car because it's an auto. I was never saying anything about auto vs manual. That has all been your doing.

You're the one who got all butt-hurt when I properly answered your question as to why your car wasn't selling.

And as to this... there is no performance detriment from it and only benefits, in a SPORTS car...

I say this...
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Yeah, precisely why EVERY form of auto racing (except drag racing), a manual transmission or sequential transmission is used. Which I must reiterate, a sequential transmission IS a manual transmission. :driving::tup::happydance:


And as for your analysis...

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Okay, I'm done... For now. :tiphat:

Thanks for your riveting input. It literally changed my life

I sold my M3 then bought the Z and $20K+ isn't going to get you one of those on your list without potential huge repair bills down the road.

My Z (3rd Z, PW/Persimmon) has full options with 6MT and I love that color combo. There is a lot of car for the money. As for as color and transmission choice, it is a matter of personal preference. All you need is just one buyer to get the car sold.

I personal think your car is nice and i would definitely consider it if I was looking for an auto. ;)

Cause kids are lazy and don't want to learn manual trans. Also I remember when I was young my insurance was high. Sports car ( Monte Carlo ) with full coverage at 18 with clean record would have been like 1,800+ every 6 months. Just going off experience here.

A Monte Carlo is a sports car?

88 Monte Carlo SS

Yeah, the truth hurts, doesn't it?..

Look, all I did was come on here and offer my opinion as to why your car wasn't selling. Not once did I say anything negative or rude about you or your car.

You're the one that got all bent out of shape and offensive with your first and second response back to me. Possibly because you know I'm right but you don't want to admit it.

If you wanted to successfully resell an automatic transmission car with no issues, maybe you should have bought a Toyota Camry instead of a Z. You know, the kind of car people actually WANT an automatic in. :rolleyes:

EEK, that's a lot for a 2013... This one is like 20 miles from me..

2016 BRAND NEW 7AT Sport and Tech package for 24.7K


So I might have been stretching it saying there are lots of 2016s, but there ARE lots of 2015s in that range, and if you can go without touring, this one here ^

When I was looking in late June there were at-least 10 different ones with the three packages and 2015+ for that price range. I ultimately with with Porsche instead though :hello: Looking currently here are some comparable cars from a 10 minute search.

2014 S/T/T with 1k miles for 28.5k

2014 S/T Amuse with 15k miles for 28k

Certified 2015 6k miles S/T for 28.9K

2015 certified s/t 6.3k miles for 28.9k

2015 S/T 2.9k miles for 28.5k

2015 certified s/t 6.8k miles for 26.9K

2015 s/t 3.4k miles for 25k

Apparently. The designation SS make it so. Sadly the whole idea of what makes a sports car is unclear for many.

I weep for our future if this were true and for your mere analysis in response to the OPs question.

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yours will sell 20k or under

kidz need payments under $300

Especially with the final generation Impalas and Monte Carlos being FWD V8 automatics...

But that anemic 305 with a whopping 180 hp. Yuck.

My father had the same motor in his '89 Caprice. He tried hopping it up with a cam, full exhaust, headers, K&N filter with a dual snorkel air cleaner assembly, and a Jet performance chip. It helped some, but by no means a speed demon. He ended up trading it in a little later on an '89 Mustang LX 5.0.

I am 3-6k lower than all of those...

Because its discontinued and its a great car(nothing quite like it on the market) and they didn't make that many. But only the AP2s hold their value unless you have an AP1 that has low miles and has been garaged all its life. Maybe if they discontinue the Z it will have the same affect on our cars since they didn't make that many 370z's, compared to the 350z of course. It would kind of be like AP2(370z) vs AP1(350z) in resell value. But this is all just wishful thinking of course.

you forgot

honda fanbois thats why

Anyways sold my car. Got an ok price from a dealer. Not my problem anymore.

Woot

Your original price was 0k - 4k lower. Hence my original comment...

They are not the same price in my state. Honestly apples to oranges. This **** got tiring real fast. A lot of those cars either had higher miles, a newer year or no leather or MODZ, or no nav.

Apples to oranges all day long. I was the lowest mile cleanest 370z at the best price. And that's why it is now gone.

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Haha yup great cars can produce those kinda crowds. :icon17:

You sold it? Did you get the price you were asking?

You're the one who asked So I offered you a legitimate reason, which you didn't even attempt to look into. You challenged my statement, which I then supported with evidence. Every single link has NAV, and no **** they were a newer year.. that's what I said to start with.

And now you're butt-hurt because someone was trying to help you? :ugh2:

L-o-*******-L

you sold it to a dealership ?

o boy :rofl2:

bet you got a lot :wtf2:

great job

Once the redesigned Z with steer-by-wire comes out, used Z's will be in high demand.

Yeah its soft. No one's buying the Z now that the hype has worn off and Mustangs and Camaros have been redesigned in the last couple of years. If you look at the new dealer inventory for the Z, there's a ton of them. But even the Mustang and Camaro are seeing sales drop.

I bought the Z at the right time for me since I its a second car and I plan on keeping it for 10 years. I don't think it will survive in sports car form for the next iteration. I'm convinced Nissan will go Gripz on the next Z and to be honest, its a smart move if they want to keep the Z nameplate alive. The SUV market in all forms - small, crossover, luxury is red hot right now and from a business standpoint if I were developing a car for 5 years of projected future sales I would be looking at the SUV market not the sports car one. Toyota will find this out with the Supra.

Heck, I'd probably buy the Gripz when my daily driver is due for replacement.

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i hate steer by wire, i hate electronic steering assist while it might remove torque steer on fwd cars.

subaru did it right by keeping the hydraulic pump style on their current wrx/sti.

I don't think so!

It's a buyers market all around for most cars but Z's are taking it especially hard.

Formula One cars are auto with paddle shifters aren't they?

You might also want to share your opinion with Chevy as they just curb-stomped the Ring in their ZL1 with the 10-speed auto, with the driver leaving it in D the entire way and scored a 7:29.60 time.

They're also more work and slower. I wouldn't pretend that laziness is the only reason.