Marangoni 370Z Hydro - Demo Car 2010 car that moves with water
 

Z-Hydro is an amazing new demo car for 2010, presented by Marangoni Car Tyres, which is the Marangoni Group’s Business unit that produces and sells new car tyres strictly “Made in Italy”.
Starting from a new Nissan 370Z, the Z-Hydro has been transformed by TRC Italia with creative developments to bodywork, engine, braking system, suspensions and interior.
The real news is the innovative Hydro kit which allows a saving in petrol consumption and emissions without any loss of power!
Marangoni decided to showcase their unique ultra high performance 20” concept tyre, “M Power - Blue” on this magnificent sporting interpretation.
As with all great concepts, the core DNA of this spectacular design will make it in to production in early 2010.

See the car at the Essen Motor Show 2009 - Oxigin Wheels Booth, hall 5, position 124

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So all they did was a GT-R wanna be bumper, lambo doors, and craptacular 20 inch rims ripped off from a rapper's escalade. How creative :ugh2:

No man, that car moves with water
The engine has a system that produces hydrogen from water extracting

Besides this....

Remapped ECU
direct double carbon intake
complete exhaust system with 200 cells catalysts
Tarox calipers with 12 pistons
Tarox 400mm brake disks
Carbon rear diffuser
complete restyling of the interior with leather, alcantara and Carbon
etc..etc...

moves with water? :rofl2::inoutroflpuke::inoutroflpuke:

Care to provide links?

Hydro kits have a bad rep for doing nothing. A real hydro system would be cool where the car is running on 100% hydrogen for most times.

except that the cost and energy expended in extracting and processing hydrogen from water far exceeds the energy gain from re-oxidizing it in the engine, making hydrogen systems very inefficient and polluting. Not to mention you will have to convert almost all available cabin space into a hydrogen tank if you don't want to refuel every 10 km or so.

not to mention that hydrogen can make the car go hindenburg on you

I said would be cool, no enviroment blah

and dangerous! hydrogen is very explosive. imagine being rear ended while carrying a hydrogen tank in the rear hatch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From Tyrepress.com: Marangoni Floats the Z-HYDRO

Yet the Marangoni 2010 show car, adds the Italian manufacturer, is not however just about design, style and power – it is also a “demonstration of technological advancement and ecology”. Marangoni continues that the main technological advancement within the tyre and the inspiration for the Z-HYDRO name is the inclusion of a process that produces a gas called HHO or ‘oxyhydrogen’, and uses an “energy from water” supply kit. This technology works in symbiosis with the car’s original engine and, says Marangoni, minimises harmful emissions – specifically unburned hydrocarbons, which are practically eliminated. Yet that’s not all – oxyhydrogen, reports Marangoni, also significantly decreases the vehicle’s fuel consumption without compromising on engine power. Amazingly this system is said to rely upon one basic raw material…. Water.

Marangoni describes the Z-HYDRO as an “almost total reworking of the car”, and reports that TRC Italia has made “substantial changes” to the body, engine, interiors, braking system and trim. Of course, for the Italian tyre maker the big news is the Hydro supply kit that independently produces HHO and “works in perfect symbiosis” with the original engine. The HHO created is injected by the system into the engine’s intake and is said to bring about a drastic reduction in HC, unburned hydrocarbons and harmful emissions in general – all while delivering the said significant improvements in fuel consumption. In trials coordinated by TRC Italia, the vehicle’s original horsepower was reportedly maintained. System designed Lorenzo Errico believes that subsequent developments will lead to a considerable increase in horsepower.

Most of those oxyhydrogen claims turned out to be bogus scams and pseudoscience. There are cars that legitimately run on water, but the water is split into hydrogen and oxygen separately in a factory, and then hydrogen is loaded into a tank on the car. No one has yet to make a system that processes water on board the car. Besides, like i said, in the end it takes more energy to split the water than what is recovered during combustion, which means its cheaper and more environmentally friendly to just keep pumping old school dinosaur droppings into the engine, than this fancy water thing.

looks interesting. I'd like to read more on it.

After the exhibition in Essen Motor Show in Europe, Germany (28-11-09 / 06-12-09) the news and specifications of this Z-Hydro Nissan 370Z will travel over the world.
All the special components in carbon fitted to the body of the Marangoni Z-Hydro will be marketed by Trc Italy starting next year.

MARANGONI Z-HYDRO: technical notes


Starting from the base of a brand new Nissan 370Z R34, Z-HYDRO presents a total reinterpretation of the car with substantial actions at the level of body, engine, interior, braking system and chassis.

Hydro Kit

The real innovation is the revolutionary power supply kit that produces individually HHO Hydro (Oxyhydrogen) and works in perfect symbiosis with the original engine. The HHO is injected developed by the station inlet of the engine, which responds with a drastic reduction in HC, unburned hydrocarbons, (brought to almost zero) and emissions in general with attached considerable improvement on fuel consumption .

This trial, coordinated by TRC Italy, in collaboration with HydroMoving Mariani and Engineering, for the moment leaves unchanged the original power of the car and, as confirmed by the Ing. Lorenzo Errico, founder of the system will be able in a second step to increase considerably.

Bodywork and design

It will not be difficult to imagine the derivation of design donated HYDRO-Z because it is obvious similarity with her older sister Nissan Skyline GTR R35.

The front bumper Performance TRC has in fact the same central grille with attached two large air intakes with an outflow directed to the plant now much more powerful. As for the rear speaker was originally removed and replaced with a new component made of carbon by MB, which has showy facilitating better flow of air extractors. Carbon is also used to build the cups mirrors, wing on the trunk of the interior panels and logos. The aluminum doors have special hinges hours of LSD, which was further altered to make it possible to open the doors Gull-wing, as in the most prestigious supercars.

All components designed for the Z-HYDRO will be sold in 2010 by TRC Italy.

Other equipment

Z-HYDRO was lowered by about 4cm by adopting an attitude to KW threaded ring that allows precisely the adjustment but also the damping in compression and extension. The front suspension also feature the new system that enables HLS to raise up to 5 cm electronically at the touch of a button located on the center console of the car. The braking system already significant number has been replaced on both axes with the innovative Tarox B350 12-piston calipers and composite discs with diameter 400 for the brake surface to brake an absolute power and modulated at the same time. The leverage of the gearbox is now equipped with a special selector that allows the reduction of stroke resulting in faster inserts.

The release of the engine has been improved by adopting exhaust manifolds, rear and stainless metal catalysts 200celle. The aspiration of the two banks was amended by removing the original boxes and taking a cotton air filters to direct intake with new covers in like-carbon.

The front seats and door panels have been skillfully covered with leather and alcantara blue color strictly by the skilled hands of Luna supercar.

Tires concept "M Power - Blue", created for the occasion by Marangoni Oxigin wheels are paired with black full polish rock Vierzhen Ox 8.5 x20 front and 11x20 rear.

Pharma, do you have any links to support your statements? Now I'm not saying the TRC car performs as stated (I wouldn't know), but your vitriol leaves a bad taste without supporting links. Thanks in advance.

=/meh/=

the wheels are disgusting. the front end is decent, but waaayyyy low. need to see those hi-res stills of the interior and some dyno numbers :D

the shiny blue leather on the seat bolsters is icky. i'm thinking more like a rsx-r cobalt felt-ish material instead.

WTF?! this car has headlight washers?!?!?!

Mamma mia!! con quelle porte ad ala di gabbiano avete trasformato una bella macchina in una terronata!!
Ma dai!!Andate avanti a fare le gomme ricoperte che è meglio!

Would look better in Solid Red.

HHO = :D

Water Car Test - HHO Shows Why You Can't Run Cars on Water - Popular Mechanics

and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-fuelled_car

"Many alleged water-fuelled cars obtain hydrogen or a mixture of hydrogen and oxygen (sometimes called "oxyhydrogen", "HHO", or "Brown's Gas") by the electrolysis of water, a process that must be powered electrically. The hydrogen or oxyhydrogen is then burned, supposedly powering the car and also providing the energy to electrolyse more water. The overall process can be represented by the following chemical equations:
2H2O → 2H2 + O2 [Electrolysis step]
2H2 + O2 → 2H2O [Combustion step]
Since the combustion step is the exact reverse of the electrolysis step, the energy released in combustion exactly equals the energy consumed in the electrolysis step, and—even assuming 100% efficiency—there would be no energy left over to power the car. In other words, such systems start and end in the same thermodynamic state, and are therefore perpetual motion machines, violating the first law of thermodynamics. And under actual conditions in which hydrogen is burned, efficiency is limited by the second law of thermodynamics and is likely to be around 20%.[9][10] More energy is therefore required to drive the electrolysis cell than can be extracted from burning the resulting hydrogen-oxygen mixture."

music is annoying..

I don't know, the gull wing doors don't bother me as much as it does some of you guys. I don't think I would call it white trash. Those doors on a Ford Probe... maybe.

in any case I wouldn't put any of this on my car.

A hydrogen explosion is actually safer than a gasoline explosion - hydrogen burns extremely quickly, whereas gasoline is a relatively slow burning fuel (the slow burning causes much more damage).

There are some photos at the end of this article

MARANGONI 370Z-HYDRO: WASSER UND BLAUE REIFEN NISSANFANBLOG

Look at the front photo of the engine... :tup:

The Lambo Doors are a little off as are the horrid wheel. But this look is all the rage with European Tuners at the moment (so to be a crowd favourite/best of show youre gonna need to do that). Apart from that this car is mega! Developing a car that runs on hydrogen is no mean feat and to do it to a fantastic 370z is awesome!

You have exactly understood the objective of this creation, this car is for people like you who can see beyond "taste" of a wheel or the color of a body (although for tuning, here in Europe this car has a great expression), is more of a tuning, is a gamble, for bringing a car of this kind in a transformation that no one would dare to do, is a revolution.

I wouldn't dismiss the HHO quite so quickly. The developers of this car clearly know the basic chemistry involved in separating hydrogen from oxygen and recombining them. The HHO gas maybe acting as a catalyst to improve the efficiency of the gasoline combustion allowing a leaner fuel mixture. Look at water injectors used to allow higher compression motors to run turbo's. I'm sure someone told them they couldn't make more power because water doesn't burn.

In fact the study and subsequent tests could be to increase the power always using the HHO

Lol - sorry I got a kick out of that one ;) I guess it really depends on the situation. Put it this way a mixture of gasoline/air is explosive from 1.7 - 7.6% gasoline whereas hydrogen is explosive from 4-75%. Acetylene is the only other one off the top of my head that has such a huge explosive range. I'm willing to bet that a hydrogen explosion of the same volume is going to give you more "bang for your buck" so to speak.

From what I can tell is Hydrogen is basically I high power density medium - you can get a lot of power in a small area. There is so much energy available on earth - its just a matter of gathering it up to use it. Electric cars will be the future and when we figure out how to increase the range our beloved gas guzzlers will be relegated to the museums or electric conversions. Anyhow I'm mumbling - the point is it takes so much energy to get raw hydrogen that its really not viable at this point in time. We need to get to work to harness all the free energy that's available but that requires spending the money on the infrastructure, etc. Once we have that in place then we can convert the energy into other forms.

There seem to be a couple of misconceptions in this thread...

1) The car does not run on Hydrogen.
It runs on regular petrol/gasoline. It uses a hydrogen booster that converts water on-demand to a hydrogen/Oxygen gas mixture that is injected into the intake that catalyses the burn increasing the amount of fuel combusted. This increases efficiency. Another company doing a lot of work in this area is Ronn Motors The Limited Edition Scorpion HX?

2) There is overwhelming anecdotal evidence of "water-power" being feasible
Inefficiencies of electrolysis is one of the reasons that hydro-boosters are used rather than trying to fuel the car entirely on hydrogen... But there are those that have allegedly discovered more efficient means using electrical pulses that "fracture" the molecular bonds reportedly by amplifying the resonation of the molecules until they separate. Google people like Stan Meyer and Denny Klien to find out more.

Meyer's design of the 90s successfully produced enough Hydrogen on demand to entirely power a car. He was repeatedly refused a patent on the grounds that it broke laws of physics until he took the device into the patent office and switched it on. The patent was issued. His device is covered in this 1990s episode of respected British science programme Equinox: Stan Meyer - It Runs On Water ( Full ) Hydrogen Oxygen ( HHO ) - Zero Point Energy

Meyer miniaturised his device into a prototype that could be fitted to most road cars. He died months before taking it from prototype to production, soon after he had alleged that he had refused billions offered by oil consortiums for his design. Conspiracy theories are rife of course... I prefer to stick to the facts rather than speculate on any unproven relationships between events and his untimely death. Meyer was very untrusting and highly secretive, no one was able to reproduce his results because no one knew all the details of the design. A growing community is getting closer to achieving the same results since his patent expired. One place to start is here: YouTube - ZeroFossilFuel's Channel

It's interesting, in for updates.

How HAWT is the Rear diffuser and Spoiler!!!!! i want i want!!!

http://www.nissanfanblog.de/wp-conte...ro_2009_09.jpg

http://www.nissanfanblog.de/wp-conte...ro_2009_07.jpg

oh dear god I have those rims :eekdance:

they used to be on my megane

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...n/IMG_0166.jpg

I wonder how they would look on my 370

Hi, here you can download the price list of all the components that we have installed on the Z-Hydro

http://www.trcitalia.it/listini/list..._eng_bassa.pdf

In the same price list, we have included also the price of alloy wheels mounted on our Nissan 370 Z-Hydro :hello:

http://www.trcitalia.it/listini/list..._eng_bassa.pdf

I still have them but I got the 19 inch version with 255/30 but they arent wide enough to put on my 370 so il probably have to sell them

Are those U.S.D. Prices? Will u have a distributer over here or would we have to order direct, and if so, what kind of shipping cost are we talking about?

Is the rear spoiler/wing an exact copy of the sport package model, just in carbon? Same mounting holes?

The rear wing is a little more high than the original sport wing and is made with real carbon, and it have a perfect fitting with the original holes.
We are already taking orders, but production and delivery will begin from april onwards (the project started recently, the z-hydro is still in the various lounges worldwide, is now at the Geneva Motor Show), we also sell directly without the additional cost of any distributors, and shipping charges vary by weight and volume of packages and the distance of your delivery address, so the price of shipping will be calculated when you order for the amount of requested goods

Different country different styles. Not my taste HOWEVER, it is a great exposition of new products and technology. Good job TRC Italy.Sorry about the aggression for showing your unique car, a lot of people get angry about GTRs and 20" wheels, so that's all everyone is gonna see lol.