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semtex 11-23-2009 07:41 AM

Would you be willing to pay for an oil cooler as a factory-installed option?
 
Okay, we all know this topic has been beaten to death, with some folks insisting that an oil cooler isn't necessary unless you track your Z, and others insisting that one is in fact necessary, even for regular street use. This thread is not about that. Rather, the intent of this thread/poll is just to see if one way to potentially end all the bickering and recriminations is for Nissan to make it an option (just like Nav, Sport Pkg, etc.), the idea being that those who want an oil cooler could get one, and those who don't wouldn't have to. Everyone gets what they want, and the animosity would cease (hopefully).

Please keep discussion civil. We all have our opinions on this hot topic (no pun intended), and there's no need to re-hash them here. The sole purpose of this poll is to ascertain how many people would actually be willing to pay extra for an oil cooler if Nissan were to offer it as an option.

Edit: For the purpose of this poll, it is assumed that as a factory-installed option, an oil cooler would be covered under warranty and would not in any way void Nissan's warranty on the rest of the car.

Red370 11-23-2009 07:51 AM

Nissan has known about the issue for some time now, why should we pay for a product defect? Thats the way I look at it, the oil cooler should have come already installed as an OEM part.

ConchZ2 11-23-2009 07:56 AM

No need for an oil cooler in New England............

370Zsteve 11-23-2009 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 292466)
Nissan has known about the issue for some time now, why should we pay for a product defect? Thats the way I look at it, the oil cooler should have come already installed as an OEM part.

As per the OP's request, please don't turn this into another thread like the ones we already have? :tiphat:

"Please keep discussion civil. We all have our opinions on this hot topic (no pun intended), and there's no need to re-hash them here. The sole purpose of this poll is to ascertain how many people would actually be willing to pay extra for an oil cooler if Nissan were to offer it as an option. <!-- / message --> <!-- sig --> "

kannibul 11-23-2009 07:59 AM

I'm sure the reason for this thread is that Nissan states that the reason they didn't install the oil cooler, was due to it bringing the cost up on the vehicle to where it was outside of their target market.

That's total bull, since it wouldn't even cost the consumer $500, and I got more than that knocked off the MSRP anyway.

370Zsteve 11-23-2009 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 292474)
I'm sure the reason for this thread is that Nissan states that the reason they didn't install the oil cooler, was due to it bringing the cost up on the vehicle to where it was outside of their target market.

That's total bull, since it wouldn't even cost the consumer $500, and I got more than that knocked off the MSRP anyway.

No, according to the OP: The sole purpose of this poll is to ascertain how many people would actually be willing to pay extra for an oil cooler

kdo2milger 11-23-2009 08:42 AM

voted for option 1

vipor 11-23-2009 08:49 AM

voted for option 2.

NOTES: 500$ would be nice, but it's not reasonable to expect parts AND labor to cost that amount. I understand that if it were on all models that they may be able to get down to that point, but we're talking about an add-on. I would give it 4-600$ in parts (must include thermostat-style bypass) and the rest for labor. Then you're talking 4-6 hours at $100/hr (low average for most shops) for the install.

semtex 11-23-2009 08:52 AM

4-6 hours for a factory install on the assembly line???

vipor 11-23-2009 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vipor (Post 292523)
voted for option 2.

NOTES: 500$ would be nice, but it's not reasonable to expect parts AND labor to cost that amount. I understand that if it were on all models that they may be able to get down to that point, but we're talking about an add-on. I would give it 4-600$ in parts (must include thermostat-style bypass) and the rest for labor. Then you're talking 4-6 hours at $100/hr (low average for most shops) for the install.

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kdo2milger 11-23-2009 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vipor (Post 292523)
voted for option 2.

NOTES: 500$ would be nice, but it's not reasonable to expect parts AND labor to cost that amount. I understand that if it were on all models that they may be able to get down to that point, but we're talking about an add-on. I would give it 4-600$ in parts (must include thermostat-style bypass) and the rest for labor. Then you're talking 4-6 hours at $100/hr (low average for most shops) for the install.

after its built, ya upwards 1 grand...

however, factory option install at the plant, 500 would be sufficient...

semtex 11-23-2009 08:56 AM

Hmm....well Nav is an add-on. Do you think it takes them an extra 4-6 hours to install the Nav unit? I mean it might. I don't know. I'm just asking.

vipor 11-23-2009 09:01 AM

The way mechanics work is off of book hours. Regardless of wether or not the job takes 30 mins or 3 days, if the book says 4 hours, you pay for 4 hours.

Mike 11-23-2009 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vipor (Post 292523)
voted for option 2.

NOTES: 500$ would be nice, but it's not reasonable to expect parts AND labor to cost that amount. I understand that if it were on all models that they may be able to get down to that point, but we're talking about an add-on. I would give it 4-600$ in parts (must include thermostat-style bypass) and the rest for labor. Then you're talking 4-6 hours at $100/hr (low average for most shops) for the install.

I did the whole modshack oil cooler in about an hour and a half. Parts would cost Nissan less than 100. I voted #1, but I think 250 is more reasonable. There really is nothing to compare price to out there, but if you look at what they charge for trailering packages on pickup trucks, which normally included a LSD, trans oil cooler (closest to what we need), and a trailer hitch and wiring, its anywhere from 150-700 package depending on the vehicle.

6MT 11-23-2009 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 292466)
Nissan has known about the issue for some time now, why should we pay for a product defect? Thats the way I look at it, the oil cooler should have come already installed as an OEM part.

How can you say that this is a "product defect"? I have never had any oil temperature issues. Let me say that again... I have NEVER had ANY oil temperature issues. So why would I want an oil cooler?

This debate only degrades itself when people say things like the quote above.


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