Allstate is the only insurance company that I am aware of that doesn't penalize customer for accidents deemed not their fault.

Wow, another one so soon! Its terrible, I'm sorry for your car.

This is a situation that all decent Southern Californians have to deal with. So many uninsured motorists out here. Tons of people taking off after hittin someone too.

personally after reading stories about hit and runs I decided not to turn my car off because it took them awhile to hesitate before getting out of their car, I still had my seat belt and was engaged in 1st gear ready to chase him down if he decided to run.

If they work for a company, ask the company if they want to pay to fix it. If it's just the bumper you are looking at about $1000 to fix. What will be annoying is that the paint will never match again. (Not that the plastic matches well today, but nothing beats factory paint.)

Are you thinking aftermarket bumper?

Sorry to hear and see about the Idiot that ran into you! Hope everything gets fixed, and they make her as good as New.

I am going through my insurance since they don't have any insurance on their end, I probably will end up ordering a front bumper from dealership so the paint would match (is that true?) or really look for a decent body shop. Ultimate goal is to obviously get a new front bumper ie aftermarket ones, but I'm not going to file false claims for my insurance company. So I'll take whatever they give me lol.

Thanks for everyone's support, I will keep posting in this thread as to what's going to happen and what the cost of everything is as well. Fingers crossed that they'll pay me cash to fix it and also I'm considering going after the company as well to sue them for hiring people with no license and to let them operate vehicles.

^ You should. Anybody else would and you could’ve gotten injured, the damage could have been worse, or if you weren’t there imagine what could have happened if they backed up into moving traffic or a person?

this really upsets me to no end......wow hope it all gets fixed soon

Sorry to see the damage.....best of luck!!

First thing that ran through my mind was: use your insurance company to fix the car and then personally sue the company for the amount they reduced your car's worth. A car in an accident is worth less than one that has not been in an accident.

But...lawyers cost money, there will be additional stress and possibly not as much compensation as should occur. Something to weigh.

Another thought.....go Carbon Fiber :tup: could be a good alternative?

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Wow... That sucks. I didn't read every post cause I'm really tired, but I hope you have uninsured motorist insurance. That's REALLY important here in Southern California. Statistically, 40% of people don't have insurance anymore. Rates have gone up because people have dropped comprehensive insurance thanks to this economy. So people just can't afford insurance here.

It's good that the cops got them, but there's not much you can get out of it. They'll probably sit in a cell for a few days but getting money out of them is a nightmare and almost never happens. The fact that they didn't have a license is just lame. My ex-gf's parents came here illegally, so her mom didn't have a driver's license and since she's never had an accident or ticket (which is amazing since that was 27 years ago).

Good luck with the repairs and I hope the car looks PERFECT when it comes back.

Have you spoken to the owner of the vehicle/company yet? With the money he saves by employing illegal immigrants, he really shouldn't have a problem reimbursing you for all of your damages. This again coming from an Accountants point of view.

That's what I see. Maybe the styrofoam piece, maybe a couple other peices. Still will be around $1500, I bet.

Find out who your dealer uses for paint work. Make sure they know you expect nothing less than it being as good or better than when you bought it.

Also, let them (the company that does the paint) that they will not receive payment until you've had it for a few days to make sure that you've had a chance to see that it matches up under different lighting conditions.

I'd also get recommendations from your insurance company - but, be aware that they won't pay for the best, they'll pay for the least costing option that will shut you up and make you go away...unless you push them...sometimes hard - but, sometimes they'll know who's good and who's not...just depends. You might also have luck looking on the web for reviews of some of the more popular places. Lastly, call around. Sad part is there are a lot of shady places out there, but, there are some good ones.

I had the dealer correct some chips on my hood - they outsource it to a local company. They did a good job, so, I'll probably continue using them for paint issues.


Whatever company you choose, meet with their manager, and establish a working relationship with that person. Let that person know your expectations. If they don't give you warm-fuzzies, question them. In fact, question them anyway. Make them know you care about your vehicle, and don't "just drive it"...

Sorry to hear about your car. Mine got backed up into also and it's just a pain. I would definitely go after the company, even if the drivers didn't have insurance, the company should have coverage since it was in their names. It's going to cost a little over $1000 if it's just the bumper.

update! so after couple of body shop trips and appraises I finally found a great place in HB to do it, the whole estimate comes about $1500 since they have to replace my headlight too, and they havn't check suspension work either but chances are they are damaged because my car was treadlining the road very badly, had to apply a lot of force to correct the car back, and also I told the bodyshop not to paint the fang area so I will have the fangs blacked out :D But as far as I'm concern, my insurance has taken care of everything and I don't pay a penny.

Ask the boby shop, if they can paint the fangs black, and have the insurance pay.

At least you got everything taken care of for free ofcourse and that's all that matters

some dumb lady did this to my 350Z in the rear, her Honda Pilot left a golf ball size hole in my drivers rear bumper

UPDATE!

So the car as of right now is in the shop still getting fixed / done, total estimate was about $1600 (not including suspension work, just body) and today I went down to the station to get a copy of my police report found out that the two Hispanic lied to the police, under Misc section of the report it said "Vehicle 1 (the party at fault) was "trying to pull down the left hand turn signal but instead pulled down the gear shifter, than accidentally backed into Vehicle 2 (me)". I honestly think it's ******** because the red light was still "RED" when they backed into me so obviously they pulled down the gear shifter to R trying to get out of the turn lane unless they were trying to run the red turn light by taking their feet off the brake and slammed on the gas pedal....it doesn't make sense how the cop didn't realize that, sure they can accidentally pull the shifter but the car won't move unless they take the foot off the brake and slammed on the gas. WHICH at the time the light was still red. doesn't make sense.

wtf!

so are the police going to do anything about them lieing?

it doesnt really matter who lies. you think the police can know 100% without being there? plus, they dont care. a report gets filed, and your insurance company decides who is at fault, not the police.

police only care if there was INTENT involved, and then it would be on a crime report instead of a traffic report. dont worry :tiphat:

Real shame about this. To be fair, if the driver *thought* the van was in drive as a result of *thinking* that they turned on their signal, but actually engaged reverse gear on the column, then all they would have to do is release their foot from the gas pedal *thinking* they were moving forward with the traffic and here we are. So it is plausible. BUT, that said, it's still operator error and they would still be at fault. And it would be a stupid thing to do. And what were they doing w/o a license anyway. And it sucks cuz it's a beautiful z. But whatever ethnicity or anything else, couldve just been a bad day for them too. Just being real at no expense to the compensation you are permitted to...

so today marks the big fat 10 days without my Z. Called the insurance numerous times and finally got things straighten out, so the damage was mostly outside, so got a new bumper, new rightside headlamp, the paint job too was done differently, left the fang area black like modshack's. Also it will get an alignment and suspension check since I felt the car tremlining a bit more than usual. And on top of that, the body shop has guaranteed the work for lifetime, if not satisfied they will redo.

:tup: good for you Jake!

in for pics ;)

Did these amigos speak any English? I know a lot of people in CA who have been hit by illegal immigrant Mexicans who are driving without a license or insurance.

UPDATE! Got my car back today, didn't pay a penny since insurance waived it for me since it's not my fault. And also have the front fang left unpainted. Looks really nice and will post pictures tomorrow along with the install of the Spawn Aero B-Pillars. Details are as followed. total damage comes to about 1800 dollars. Since had to replace little parts here and there. And I have a hood on back order since it's not sitting as flush as normal but not really noticeable. But hey I bought this car a month ago and I'd like to have that new car look instead of knowing that there are minute imperfections. other than that everything is great!

last update, here is the front bumper after the body shop ordered a new one :D

http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/...0/CIMG1118.jpg

+1

That's exactly right. Sadly it's not just immigrants anymore. Right now there's a large amount of people that can't afford insurance right now, so it's a likely hood that if you get hit, the other driver won't have insurance.


Glad you got your car back, Jake. Looks great with the black fangs.

Thanks crash and yes that is very true, due to economical down turn people have also taken things off such as uninsured motorist off of their policy to reduce their monthly bills. Until they get hit by an uninsured person. Guy insurance is insurance, pay for everything they ask because one way or another you will get hit or hit someone someday.

so you are leaving the fang area unpainted?

have you or are you going to wax it or treat it otherwise to give a solid layer of protection?

I treated it with 303 aerospace protectant and 2 layers of Zaino

:yum: nice!

looks shiny in the pic so i assumed you used something just was wondering what...:tup:

Go after their employer through a vicarious liability suit you will most likely win. Happy she's back, looks great.

wow man... im sorry to hear about this.... ummm they have no insurance? isnt that illegal? they can pay u off the record man... is there a deal where u can make ur insurance pay for the damage and they pay ur insurance back?

:confused: He said he didn't have to pay anything. Did I miss some new development?

O man!!! i didnt see that? my bad semtex..... thats good he didnt pay a penny...:D