New VR engine in same 370z body for 2017?
 

Hey guys. First time post but long time reader. I drive a 07 350z and am strongly considering upgrading to a 370.

Question is, what's the chances nissan just drops the new 400hp tt VR engine into the existing 370? Maybe tweak it/ give it a face lift.

They did that with the Infiniti sadan. It was a vq and now a VR. So why not save money and drop that beast in the 370 which is still the sexiest car out in my opinion.

Thoughts???

no chance

I don't see that happening. The VR has to take up more space and with the additional plumbing and air handling, it would take a decent amount of work to squeeze it in. The Q60 was a redesign, similar to the G35 Sedan changing exterior first, then engine.

there's like 3 or 4 threads going al about the next possible Z

if youre a long time reader you should know where the search bar is by now lol

also i agree with dirk it would be a pain to fit and need redeisgned.

Sorry regarding the new thread. I just haven't seen specifically this discuss anywhere else.

I'm sad you guys say no chance though. It'd be sick if that did that then came out with new body after. Send off the 370 with proper power package.

you sick?:stirthepot:

well he finally made a solid point that the engine dimensions most likely wont work especially with the car specific turbo plumbing.

dont worry he will say something else and it'll be back to the regularly scheduled programming lol

Whew. I was about to check my calendar to see if there was a full moon.

This.

Either they will drop the Z line again (the smarter move), or a completely new model

You want them to kill the Z?

Highly doubt Nissan is gonna drop the VQ if they continue the "370z" name. VR is a much larger engine and the current Z engine bay would need to be redesigned.

Honestly there probably is a good chance that will happen... I would wait.

yes

idk if they would do this, but i do wonder if there will be a extra special last version of the car. one with 351hp or something

It would be sweet if all car manufacturers let you put in any engine as an option. Mine would look like,

Car: 2017 Nissan 370Z (base $26,000; excludes engine and transmission)
Engine: GM V8 LT-1 460 hp, 455 lb/ft. torque at 5600 RPM (add $7,000)
Transmission: 7-speed manual $2,500
Sport package: add $3,000

Total MSRP excluding destination: $38,500
...Do you want to proceed?

I saw a commercial for the q50 advertising 400hp car yesterday... you never know...

u guys cry about some dogdamn steering lock and now u want an engine made by GM? :ugh:

I would want the Porsche 4.0L H6 from the new 911R. 8800RPM... :yum:

2017 Nissan 370Z base: $26,000
2017 Porsche 4.0L H6. 500 hp, 338 lb./ft. torque 5200 rpm: $30,000
Sport Package: $3,000
"Porsche GT3 race package": weight savings, carbon fiber components, ceramic brakes, etc.: $50,000

Total MSRP: $109,000

Do you want to proceed?

Shut Up and Take My Money. Also acceptable would be the VK45DE with a flat plane crank.

You forgot the extra suspension parts to deal with the fact you have hundreds of pounds more weight, and nearly all of it in the front of the car, making a 65/35 split. ;)

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Rumor has it that the next Z will go back to its roots as the 240Z featuring a normally aspirated 2.4L inline-4 making about 200 hp. Apparently Nissan wants to compete with the Mazda Miata.
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So now we have two sucky Z threads.

Hyperbole. LS3 weighs less than SR20 turbo motor; I bet it weighs less than VQ37....LT-1 is lighter than LS3.

Bigger don't always mean heavier.

Time to blow this thread up and have it locked. Who wants to do the honors? :rofl2:

Ibtl

The 240Z was an I6.

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Buy a brand new 370Z.
Put on a TT kit or supercharged. Done

You dont have to wait for their 3.0 TT :roflpuke2:
huhmmm... 3.0 ?:roflpuke2::roflpuke2:

so call it 40k for a brand new Z and another 20k+ in TT and support mods........

ok sounds good :wtf2:

What kind of oil would be the best to use in this engine?

BOOM! Ibtl

I think this thread can also use an argument about manual vs auto.

i'm in :yum:

New VR engine in same 370z body for 2017?
 

Yeah, there's never been a good 3.0TT motor. All those Supras running around don't count.

It's obvious who's never put aftermarket turbos on a car when they make it sound so easy. I think every one who has done it would have preferred that it was turboed from the factory.

Can you imagine the audacity of Nissan putting a 3.0TT motor in a Z? How could they think that's okay. That goes against the history of the Z-car...

I don't understand what's so hard about dropping the new VR in the existing 370 --

Obviously I know very little about this subject, but wouldn't modifying the 370z engine bay be much cheaper than developing an entirely new platform?

And just give the thing a face lift and you're done. Sounds easy to me (relative to developing a completely new car).

Good old dino piss for the oil. And dino sh!t for the grease. Wonder what it would smell like when it gets hot? :stirthepot:

a. turbos, air-water intercoolers on top of the block, piping....its a size/layout issue aka nightmare. it would be a way easier task if you wrote a letter to the heads of nissan and say drop the vk56 in there since that actually fits.....somewhat.

b. the current Z is now in it's 8th model year......it's tired. it's time to move forward. new look, new engine, updated tech.

And it's not just fitting the engine in. Nissan is very particular with where the engine sits in the car, so if the VR fits, but sits a foot towards the front plus the weight of the turbo system, you now have poor weight distribution. Also, air flow for a turbo system is different, so all of the aero, including the shape of the hood and bumpers and where everything is inside the engine bay, would have to be reworked.

This. OEMs don't just drop an engine in a car and call it a day.