lots of funny bickering

The folks trying to claim the E46 is a none issue of the 370z are clearly misinformed.

And the E92 does in fact compete well with the C6 Vette and in many cases faster:

Chevrolet Corvette C6 vs BMW M3 (E92) - FastestLaps.com

The new Porsche Cayman S is right there with the E92 as well. These cars are in a whole different leaque vs. 370z.

Actually the E92 has been recorded at 4.2 sec's 0-60.

And based on numberous lap recordings the M3 isn't too far off the Vipers and in some cases better.

Dodge Viper SRT-10 vs BMW M3 (E92) - FastestLaps.com


Or would you rather me give you some "my friend billy bob real life examples" ?

:pics:

You're obsolutely correct!

911 carrera vs. E92 M3: (M3 is faster)
Porsche 997 Carrera vs BMW M3 (E92) - FastestLaps.com

C6 vette vs. E92 M3: (M3 is faster)
Chevrolet Corvette C6 vs BMW M3 (E92) - FastestLaps.com

Viper vs. E92 M3: (Fairly close)
Dodge Viper SRT-10 vs BMW M3 (E92) - FastestLaps.com

Vanquish vs. E92 M3: (M3 is faster)
Aston Martin V8 Vantage (380bhp) vs BMW M3 (E92) - FastestLaps.com

Seems a lot of folks are misinformed regarding the E92 M3

Good driving on both parts; it was fun to watch. These guys drove em' like they stoleded them!

Good info. Shows how fast the new m3 is. Suposedly the new 5.0 Mustang can keep up with it according to stats. We will have to wait and see for that one.

Only in the straights, the M3 will still outhandle the 'Stang.

Im willing to bet with the right modifications and driver we can be right there with the e92 in a straight line race if not a little quicker. I currently have injen intakes. FI Long tube headers and FI catback exhaust. I raced a c63 amg the other day and for those of you who dont know the specs its a 6.3l 451 hp motor. 1st time i got pulled by a car length because It was a random race and I didnt start high enough rpm. Second time we were dead even.

^^trust me man it's more than possible. I stuck it to an e92 stock and trust me he was going. Sure there will be an overwhelming about of evidence that the Z is inferior but I'll go by what I experience when I'm behind the wheel. In my experience against a manual e92 it was Z: 2 M:0 all the way through 4th.

The M is a beast, what do you expect, but the e92 is no longer a driver's car, it allows anyone the ability to drive fast especially if you get the paddle shift. I come from a mentality where driver input is everything, buttons aren't for me.

On the e46, 2 of my buddies have them and while they can keep up with the Z they can't overtake me. Frankly they'd have to run perfectly and I get a little bit of an error margin, after installing test pipes and making an uncorrected 294whp on the dyno I can tell you for a fact, unless you dumped a lot of money in an e46 M you're not catching me. I love the e46 M but times have progressed, the Z is superior and I'd rather take a full bolt on Z over a full bolt on e46 M. It's still very expensive to get parts for the e46 and the aftermarket for the Z is still growing. Tuning capabilities are still limited, parts such as upgraded throttle bodies and plenums are just be researched.

Z owners, be patient, the VQ motor is wonderful and for the brave few who keep the motor N/A and build it either into a long block or a super high reving short block you'll make 350+ at the wheels. We just need to wait on someone to come out with heads, pistons, rods, and a bigger plenum. It's coming and when someone goes that extra effort the M's won't want a piece of us.

I was going to jump on the F.I. train but I hate being limited to 480-500whp. I bought my Z, she's going to be with me for a long time god willing, I'll wait and build the short block, Nissan already provided me a 9000 tach I want to see if it can be done. Heads, cams, pistons, rods, and advanced tuning on a built block should get you to 9K and more than 350whp at the wheels on a bulletproof motor. I'm willing to wait for that.

bro that setup will get you way more than 350whp. Depending on which dyno your talking about im already pushing 300whp on a mustang dyno which is about 330 on a dynojet without any of the above meantioned mods and so are some others.

Yeah? Was the sun in your eyes too? The Z was pulling away from you in the straights with ease. Maybe you were dragging a muffler? Anyway it was good the Z had a mechanical issue so you could overtake him.

Thanks for registering on the 370z site to bash our car. I am sure it's really appreciated.

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I hope so man, I can understand that many manufacturers would jump on F.I. package now to satisfy the masses, not many people are currently shooting for a "kilo car" so I'm being patient and watching all the wonderful products that come out. Most noteworthy lately has been that new plenum kinetix put out, sweet looking piece.

If I can build the motor in due time and make 350+whp N/A that's all I need. It'll be built and bulletproof so it's just a matter after all that of adding a power adder to make ridiculous HP.

Guess I'm being the tortoise but we all know how that ended up.

Yea ill be keeping an eye on the kinetix piece to see how it turns out. Many people think its not going to produce any gains though. We will see when the time comes. If it produces decent gains ill most likely buy it.