Don't worry... It will get AKz'd soon. :tup:

I thought this thread was about the E46 M3? :icon14:

Naaa.. They just put that in the title cause it has to have one, there's no reeeeaaaalll meaning :tup:

looks to me like the Z overheated there at the end.

oil coolers...

they're grrrrreat!

As some one mentioned I think your a little crazy. In the track world 3-4 secs are ALOT. That is a big gap to be honest if you were to say .05 secs, then that would be close.

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We don't.. so I guess those variables are only untrue for the m3 ;)

We either go by the official times presented or by your "substantial" experience.

get the 370z, i have driven both and the Z feels faster and sportier, now the new M3s are faster, but cost like $20k more than the Z.


to the poster who said, the new bmw will beat a new vette.llllllllooooooolllllll

the new vettes come stock w/ 436HP/ 424Tq
and the new M3s come stock w/ 414HP/ 425 Tq

how can a M3 beat a vette, when it has = torque and less HP???

especially when the bmw outweighs the vette.

the weights are close - there are a LOT of factors that come into play w/ cars that close lol... the "436" and "414" are PEAK power not the average of the power band... stop mag racing... its lame

That's interesting. I never looked at it that way. We always wanna know what the hp and tq numbers are for a given vehicle, whereas for our needs the average power would be more beneficial. I'm not very good at reading dyno charts, but I wonder how the 370 stacks up against other performance cars using this method. My apologies for being even more off topic.

Laguna Seca
BMW M3 (E92) 1:42.964
Porsche 997 Carrera (2008 facelift) 1:45.0

You really should drive an m3 and experience it. :)

HP is most beneficial top end, torque is what really yanks you out of the turns.

Dont be, it's great conversation and we all learn from it. Now I haven't seen THAT many 370z dyno pulls, but it appears most of your power is above 5.5k.

Where as most turbo vehicles start hitting peak power around 5.5k - something the 335i deals with. The torque really shoots you out front, but after about 100mph it's anyones game - more often then not the larger NA engine. Myself and ArnVan on this forum run a lot and it really is awesome how much power the VQ puts out top end.

I know I'll probably be flamed for posting this.. but they recently released the new m3 gts. More of a track version than a DD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCzDOpVasHM

I hate to contribute to this thread, but the weights on a C6 and M3 are close?? You have almost 500 pounds of difference. There is a reason why the vette has the quarter time it does


Also YouTube - Nissan GT-R by autocar.co.uk

Note the reviewer owns an M3. I point this out only to show you the braking system on these cars while fine on the street is a bit of a joke on the track.

I love the M3, but I pine for the days of the E36 at 2700 pounds.. Remember the Euro versions didn't have the detuned engines, those were impressive cars.

E46 is also beautiful, but with every generation you can see them becoming more luxurious and less track oriented, this true of all M cars evolving.