What is the best mod for the Money

imag · 11-09-2009, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kastley85891

Sorry dude I disagree respectfully.

Personally I feel any car can benefit from a tune, turbo or not, stock tunes are fine but any stock tune can be improved on, whats the point of throwing mods at avehicle with out first having the device to extract the most from those mods?
My 2 cents, extract what you can from what you got then repeat, none of the add ons are cheap etc

second note... I am biased as I will tune my self ;-) ,from the other side of the coin, I can see your logic when shelling out for tunes and parts.

Look at the track record on tunes. CBE is a way better deal, and RCZ is right - you get better sound to boot. And if you get the intake and exhaust first, you don't have to retune.

Kastley85891 · 11-09-2009, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

You have not seen the Z respond to mods then, from what we have seen so far the Z runs rich from factory. Adding good CAI, exhaust, and HFC will lean it out and smooth the car out with adding plenty of power. A tune for the Z will smooth out the power a bit and put the car in its optimal condition, but so far it has shown bolt-ons first is the way to go.

Cool man I will look forward to the mods and learning this new motor. I am exited to see what she can do for sure, for experimental purposes I will tune it first and def sort the , as expected rich fueling

after a heavy few years of miodding the Wife has clamped down so next round may be a little time.

If these motors do respond well to being opened up on the intake and exhaust that well, I am even more keen to get started.

theDreamer · 11-09-2009, 10:25 PM

This car from factory has a very good tune, it is the intake/exhaust setup that limits it. I would even go as far as the intake is very good (a few aftermarket are just a bit better), it is the CBE & HFC that are the limitations.

Kastley85891 · 11-09-2009, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

This car from factory has a very good tune, it is the intake/exhaust setup that limits it. I would even go as far as the intake is very good (a few aftermarket are just a bit better), it is the CBE & HFC that are the limitations.

I can imagine yes, I have contempleted (for cost) trying some drop ins to see if it opens it up at all, the HFC's seem pretty good value.
Be nice to see what she does totally stock, then tuned stock, drop in and with the HFC's, eventually ,as my other thread Id like to go to Ethanol but thats a way off, I just want to get to grips with the vehicle.

abakja1 · 11-09-2009, 11:29 PM

The Injen intakes allowed it to breath better,..
The FI exhaust helped it exhale and roar better,..
I got HFC waiting to go on,..but enjoying the above so much right now, it can wait..
A Osiris tune to be next later down the road once engine get past 1k miles for engine management and the ability to read/clear codes...

KillerBee370 · 11-17-2009, 10:11 PM

Lose weight.

Nismo 370z · 11-18-2009, 06:05 AM

Learn how to drive the car 10/10ths to the limit is the best bang for ur buck IMO. Get some HPDE and notice how much u can push this car on the track and drive more alert and safer off the track. This car is very capable of putting down respectable times stock. However as killerbee said..another thing would be losing weight. This might not bang for ur buck (think dry carbon and titanium/magnesium) but it will make u faster everywhere, not just a straight line. Mechanically, I would say 4.02 FD would provide better accelaration than an I/E/TP or HFC combo...

G37Sam · 11-18-2009, 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kastley85891

Sorry dude I disagree respectfully.

Personally I feel any car can benefit from a tune, turbo or not, stock tunes are fine but any stock tune can be improved on, whats the point of throwing mods at avehicle with out first having the device to extract the most from those mods?
My 2 cents, extract what you can from what you got then repeat, none of the add ons are cheap etc

second note... I am biased as I will tune my self ;-) ,from the other side of the coin, I can see your logic when shelling out for tunes and parts.

With all the respect to your opinion, I beg to disagree

If you don't improve the car's breathing, then there's nothing the tune will enhance. Stock A/F ratio is almost perfect on a stock car. Not even sure you'll gain much from opening the throttle valves all the way. The VVEL hasn't been cracked yet, so no cam phasing change (assuming that isn't good enough already as well).

Can you elaborate on "doing the tune yourself" please?

KillerBee370 · 11-18-2009, 08:57 AM

^ VVEL's been cracked for awhile now.

jpit · 11-18-2009, 09:50 AM

I think Technosquare has cracked it but Uprev hasn't yet.

Kastley85891 · 11-18-2009, 10:39 AM

G37 SAM Can you elaborate on "doing the tune yourself" please?

Sure - getting the software, hooking up you permanant WB sensor/s going out and logging, changing your ROM image and relogging, basically road tuning instead of dyno tuning, with your self as the tuner.

I expect disagreement on my opinion, and welcome it, I still think any platform in 'factory format' can be improved with a tune, I like to stage my changes and tune at every step of the way, I can get fairly good 'base' and 'stage' data and enhance my specific learning of the vehicle.

Cheers

How is the UAE these days, great place, I am jeleous of you being there

KillerBee370 · 11-18-2009, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jpit

I think Technosquare has cracked it but Uprev hasn't yet.

Bingo

VTalumni · 11-18-2009, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kastley85891

G37 SAM Can you elaborate on "doing the tune yourself" please?

Sure - getting the software, hooking up you permanant WB sensor/s going out and logging, changing your ROM image and relogging, basically road tuning instead of dyno tuning, with your self as the tuner.

I expect disagreement on my opinion, and welcome it, I still think any platform in 'factory format' can be improved with a tune, I like to stage my changes and tune at every step of the way, I can get fairly good 'base' and 'stage' data and enhance my specific learning of the vehicle.

Cheers

How is the UAE these days, great place, I am jeleous of you being there

Since you have the capability to tune yourself, I totally agree with you. It doesnt cost you anything additional per tune so why not. Plus, since everyone is saying the car runs rich in the stock tune, leaning it out will definitely increase power. Keep us posted and let us know what you learn.

wishihadnav · 11-19-2009, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerBee370

Lose weight.

haha.

Jeff La Force · 12-13-2012, 09:18 PM

Guys,

So far I am pure stock, but I will eventually want to take the plunge. Just want to do it right . . . Any thoughts?

Intake, exhaust, super charger (this sounds risky and expensive), speed shifter (I have a manual trans) . . .

Thanks!

Jeff

11-09-2009, 10:25 PM	#18 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	This car from factory has a very good tune, it is the intake/exhaust setup that limits it. I would even go as far as the intake is very good (a few aftermarket are just a bit better), it is the CBE & HFC that are the limitations. KapitalZ likes this. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

11-18-2009, 10:39 AM	#26 (permalink)
Kastley85891 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ATX 370 - Sold Posts: 1,149 Drives: 2003 Wagon Rep Power: 17	G37 SAM Can you elaborate on "doing the tune yourself" please? Sure - getting the software, hooking up you permanant WB sensor/s going out and logging, changing your ROM image and relogging, basically road tuning instead of dyno tuning, with your self as the tuner. I expect disagreement on my opinion, and welcome it, I still think any platform in 'factory format' can be improved with a tune, I like to stage my changes and tune at every step of the way, I can get fairly good 'base' and 'stage' data and enhance my specific learning of the vehicle. Cheers How is the UAE these days, great place, I am jeleous of you being there Last edited by Kastley85891; 11-18-2009 at 10:49 AM.

12-13-2012, 09:18 PM	#30 (permalink)
Jeff La Force Base Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Austin Posts: 6 Drives: 2011 370Z Rep Power: 12	What is the best, safest peformance mod for the buck? Guys, So far I am pure stock, but I will eventually want to take the plunge. Just want to do it right . . . Any thoughts? Intake, exhaust, super charger (this sounds risky and expensive), speed shifter (I have a manual trans) . . . Thanks! Jeff

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KillerBee370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: So Cal baby! Age: 51 Posts: 5,964 Drives: with passion Rep Power: 321	Lose weight.

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