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mishuko 12-21-2015 01:33 PM

after reviewing those rims it came with it's no wonder the owner got into an accident.

so yea... go with the new. minus the faux engine noise.

mishuko 12-21-2015 01:35 PM

i also like to say i got a 2012 sport touring (only option vs base here in canuckistan) 9.5... lets say 10k mile for argument Z for 22.5k USD converted at todays $

sooooooooooooooooo definitely ripping you off. wouldn't pay more than 18k on the car with an accident on it. hell even 15k might be fair game.

D.Stillwell 12-21-2015 01:44 PM

I paid 27k out the door, for a brand new Z base + sport.

So what? That means nothing right....

But the point is, look around! Now is a great time to buy a Z and you can find good deals for a new base sport for under 30k all day long. A sport/touring + tech in my area runs about 32-35k.

zaimer 12-21-2015 01:50 PM

:icon18:
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Originally Posted by D.Stillwell (Post 3373102)
Thats correct, this is new for 2016 models.

Btw, that used Z has an accident on it, and they want the same price as the new Z....

I'd laugh at that dealer in the face and get the new one. I mean, unless you're retarded, really.

I digress lol...

:icon18:Thank you for the wise advice :tiphat: I pretty much had my mind made up before, but I needed a little extra sense. The used is priced high..and I am not fond of it having an accident at all.

zaimer 12-21-2015 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mishuko (Post 3373134)
after reviewing those rims it came with it's no wonder the owner got into an accident.

so yea... go with the new. minus the faux engine noise.

I'm assuming either the dealer put those rims on..or they were put on after the car was fixed from the accident (and went to auction). They are supposed to be brand new rims and tires. I'm not sure what condition the OEM wheels are in..

zaimer 12-21-2015 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by D.Stillwell (Post 3373178)
I paid 27k out the door, for a brand new Z base + sport.

So what? That means nothing right....

But the point is, look around! Now is a great time to buy a Z and you can find good deals for a new base sport for under 30k all day long. A sport/touring + tech in my area runs about 32-35k.


That is crazy if that is the case :eek:. Around me, the CHEAPEST you will touch a sport touring (within 500 miles) is 40/41K!

D.Stillwell 12-21-2015 01:55 PM

Used Z market is not worth it. Used prices are high, but new prices are low. I'm seeing used Z's with 20k miles posted for same price as brand new ones..

If you're buying, you really would be a fool to buy a used Z right now, unless it was a REALLY good deal and it made sense money wise.

D.Stillwell 12-21-2015 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by zaimer (Post 3373206)
That is crazy if that is the case :eek:. Around me, the CHEAPEST you will touch a sport touring (within 500 miles) is 40/41K!

Where do you live? My area is considered very expensive so IDK....

You can always buy from another state, thats the beauty of it ;)

zaimer 12-21-2015 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by D.Stillwell (Post 3372489)
No brainer. Get the new one.

I had the same option as you back in August. Except both my options were new.

I couldn't justify spending 3-5k more to add touring to my sport. Bose and leather side bolsters on the seats, plus bunch of extra weight. No thanks. The sports seats are 100% same as touring minus leatherette side bolsters, middle is the same. Sport seats felt way more stable, the leather sides make you slide exactly where it should hold.

100% Enthusiast choice = base sport 6mt.

Touring sport = just go buy the g37 if you want touring luxuries.


This is what I'm looking at. I don't think spending the extra money is worth it. Could I afford it? Yeah, but it seems unnecessary to increase the price for those few itens.

I currently have a Q60s..got it new last year. I'm getting rid of that to get back into a Z..it just does not provide the same experience/love as a Z. So a G37 would be out of the question :ugh2:

2011 Nismo#91 12-21-2015 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by D.Stillwell (Post 3373178)
I paid 27k out the door, for a brand new Z base + sport.

That's damn near ~30% off invoice, nice deal!

D.Stillwell 12-21-2015 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 3373276)
That's damn near ~30% off invoice, nice deal!

Thanks. Im extremely happy with it.

I priced my car as it sits today, and with 7500k its still worth more than I paid for it.

The downfall, there was only 1 brilliant silver Z at this price. Not many options but, I just so happened to be a fan of the silver. It felt like a done deal before I even went to test drive it really.

zaimer 12-21-2015 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by D.Stillwell (Post 3373215)
Where do you live? My area is considered very expensive so IDK....

You can always buy from another state, thats the beauty of it ;)

NW WI..there are very few Z's for sale here..and even fewer on the road lol.

That is actually what I am looking at doing. The car is a few states away and he is going to ship it to me for free :tup:.

Otherwise, there are only 2 Z's within about 75 miles of me. There is a '15 Sport, dealer is asking $34,879 and another dealer has a 2016 Base for 32~ something. I actually went and played around with the Base on Saturday to see what I thought of the new radio. Surprisingly it is pretty decent! I think it has made leaps and bounds compared to the old base model radios. :shakes head:

zaimer 12-21-2015 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by D.Stillwell (Post 3373280)
Thanks. Im extremely happy with it.

I priced my car as it sits today, and with 7500k its still worth more than I paid for it.

The downfall, there was only 1 brilliant silver Z at this price. Not many options but, I just so happened to be a fan of the silver. It felt like a done deal before I even went to test drive it really.

Yeah..that was a DEAL!

Larso1 12-21-2015 04:03 PM

Well, the fact that the '14 Touring Sport has an accident history would change everything for me that I said about getting it. Personally, I would still look for a '14 or newer Touring Sport. When I was looking, I passed right over the ads for anything that specified "base", and lasered in on Touring and Nismo only. But as I said, I'm biased

alcheng 12-21-2015 05:37 PM

get the new one..

you can get those concave convex whatever wheels you like anytime later and wrap them with tires which is much better than nitto

backup camera?? seriously?? I drove a 350z for 4 years and 370z for 4+ years and never feel the need of a camera... especially with a chic on the passenger seat... c'mon, drive like a man and forget about those aids...


used car... you never know what problem do they have and how did the previous owner torture it.... maybe that's why he/she has to sell it so quickly...


Get The New One... :tup:

DavidZ370 12-21-2015 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by evil370z (Post 3372855)
I bought my 2014 pearl white touring sport 6 speed fully loaded 0 mileage , 1% interest thru Nissan, 37k out the door flat. Forget the base, has basically no value what so ever. Get the fully loaded on, backup cameras leather seats, hested seats, spoiler, sport wheele, sport brakes. 13k miles is NOTHING, still new. My 2014 just hit 13k miles today.

none of the Z cars hold value, so id rather just loose less money :ugh2:

abdulisraddd 12-21-2015 06:37 PM

im signing papers today for a 2k14 magnetic black touring/sports package
18k miles 27k OTD

Larso1 12-21-2015 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by abdulisraddd (Post 3373415)
im signing papers today for a 2k14 magnetic black touring/sports package
18k miles 27k OTD

Well done! 😎

Z_ealot 12-21-2015 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidZ370 (Post 3373407)
none of the Z cars hold value, so id rather just loose less money :ugh2:

Can you say 240Z lol

Larso1 12-21-2015 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot (Post 3373439)
Can you say 240Z lol

Yup! I've already seen two totally restored 240z's in my area. Timeless styling IMHO. And they're scoring 370z money and more at the big auctions (Barrett- Jackson, etc.) I drove a buddy's '70 240z home for him back in the day. Sweet ride, smooth shifter, torquey motor. For the money, nothing compared to them at the time.

barncobob 12-21-2015 08:21 PM

i bought a new 2016 sport, almost $2.5K off sticker..looked at used but the prices were really HIGH,,spent a little more, like the warranty, love the car.

did all the negotiating on internet, ca$h talks.
the sacramento dealers were all $4K than sticker:eek:

took my money to the bay area at the end of the month sales quota time..

DavidZ370 12-22-2015 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Larso1 (Post 3373447)
Yup! I've already seen two totally restored 240z's in my area. Timeless styling IMHO. And they're scoring 370z money and more at the big auctions (Barrett- Jackson, etc.) I drove a buddy's '70 240z home for him back in the day. Sweet ride, smooth shifter, torquey motor. For the money, nothing compared to them at the time.

Ive put it on the wrong context none of the 370Zs

zaimer 12-22-2015 08:01 AM

GREAT news...went to put my desposit down on the new 370z to find out that it had sold about an hour beforehand.

Salesman tried to play it off cool. We were starting to line up the delivery/return of the vehicles and the paperwork. Then he throws in, "oh, by the way, that white one sold this morning...but we can offer you the same deal on the black one we have in stock". I told him to forget it, I'll buy elsewhere. :shakes head:

I told him if I wanted black I would have bought the new Z that is 45 minutes from me...why would I drive over 7 hours???

the search continues....

JARblue 12-22-2015 08:04 AM

You drove 7 hours to the dealership and they sold it out from under you?!? WTF!! I would be pissed and speaking with the GM before leaving.

Or did you drive 7 hours to the dealer without confirming the car's availability? :rolleyes:

zaimer 12-22-2015 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3373684)
You drove 7 hours to the dealership and they sold it out from under you?!? WTF!! I would be pissed and speaking with the GM before leaving.

Or did you drive 7 hours to the dealer without confirming the car's availability? :rolleyes:

lol neither..thankfully. I would be beyond pissed if that were the case. We had started to arrange either shipping it to me or me coming to pick it up.

JARblue 12-22-2015 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by zaimer (Post 3373710)
lol neither..thankfully. I would be beyond pissed if that were the case. We had started to arrange either shipping it to me or me coming to pick it up.

Gotcha. Tough break :thumbsdown: Good luck on the continued search :tiphat:

kenchan 12-22-2015 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3373684)
You drove 7 hours to the dealership and they sold it out from under you?!? WTF!! I would be pissed and speaking with the GM before leaving.

Or did you drive 7 hours to the dealer without confirming the car's availability? :rolleyes:

reminds me of back in the 80's a tv ad from the phone company "phone first!"..

:icon17:

MagmaRed370z 12-22-2015 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by zaimer (Post 3373682)
GREAT news...went to put my desposit down on the new 370z to find out that it had sold about an hour beforehand.

Salesman tried to play it off cool. We were starting to line up the delivery/return of the vehicles and the paperwork. Then he throws in, "oh, by the way, that white one sold this morning...but we can offer you the same deal on the black one we have in stock". I told him to forget it, I'll buy elsewhere. :shakes head:

I told him if I wanted black I would have bought the new Z that is 45 minutes from me...why would I drive over 7 hours???

the search continues....


You drove 7 hours and they sold the one you wanted? Damn that's messed up. I would be pissed.

barncobob 12-22-2015 09:49 AM

snooze u lose...dealer should have called, he figured he could talk u into another color,,,typical sales BS:ugh2:

alcheng 12-22-2015 04:56 PM

and they can't/don't do a dealer search to see if they can find you one from another dealership???

Bshields22 12-22-2015 05:14 PM

2014, no questions asked:

#1: New cars are for suckers in terms of depreciation, especially a sports car, gas guzzler, 2 seater that can carry no more than a few groceries...

#2 APR on loans depending on terms should be no more than 3% if you have good credit. The difference you'll be paying on interest FAR OUT WEIGHTS the cost of all the additional features you'll be getting on the 2014

#3 13K miles is a joke on a car this well built.. its practically at 0 miles in my opinion

#4 I always ask people this question...once the glamour and glitz have gone away of a "base" new car you don't want to pull up next to a guy with all the options you could have and then say to yourself....f_ck. Trust me i was there with my first Z. Loved it to death but did wish for all the options once I had it for a few months

Always keep this in mind when shopping for what you WANT..."Price is only an issue in the absence of value"

Good luck!

UNKNOWN_370 12-22-2015 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 1LIFE (Post 3372114)
I would buy the base sport, would much rather have the piece of mind of it being new. Also the sport wheels are better than Concavo, I wouldn't care about the back up camera, and I prefer the cloth base seats over leather. That's just my 2 pennies

I have the optional camera mirror n it works GREAT. You can get it as a dealer option.

UNKNOWN_370 12-22-2015 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bshields22 (Post 3374061)
2014, no questions asked:

#1: New cars are for suckers in terms of depreciation, especially a sports car, gas guzzler, 2 seater that can carry no more than a few groceries...

#2 APR on loans depending on terms should be no more than 3% if you have good credit. The difference you'll be paying on interest FAR OUT WEIGHTS the cost of all the additional features you'll be getting on the 2014

#3 13K miles is a joke on a car this well built.. its practically at 0 miles in my opinion

#4 I always ask people this question...once the glamour and glitz have gone away of a "base" new car you don't want to pull up next to a guy with all the options you could have and then say to yourself....f_ck. Trust me i was there with my first Z. Loved it to death but did wish for all the options once I had it for a few months

Always keep this in mind when shopping for what you WANT..."Price is only an issue in the absence of value"

Good luck!

I traded a G37s coupe for a base sport Z. All that never happened. I guess it depends if you give a Eff about what the Joneses are doing ???

I say f*ck the Joneses n there mama's. I do it for me not to impress. But that's just me...

Bshields22 12-22-2015 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3374073)
I traded a G37s coupe for a base sport Z. All that never happened. I guess it depends if you give a Eff about what the Joneses are doing ???

I say f*ck the Joneses n there mama's. I do it for me not to impress. But that's just me...

Agreed, if your worried about impressing people. The car itself usually will do that but the options are solely for you. Base sport and touring sport look identical from the outside. All the interior stuff is for you, Heated/cooled seats, back up camera, etc..its all for convenience.

LA370z 12-23-2015 07:47 AM

I would go with the 2015 sport personally.

zaimer 12-23-2015 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alcheng (Post 3374055)
and they can't/don't do a dealer search to see if they can find you one from another dealership???

They told me that they can...when I almost immediately asked that question. The salesman said that he talked to his manager and they found the same car a few states away. I asked if it could be around the same price as the car that was sold.

talked to the manager again...he said that I would have to be flexible on the price...

I said ok, what would we be looking at??

manager said he just doesn't see how that deal would be possible. :icon14:

WHY even make that as an offer then???? lolol

zaimer 12-23-2015 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by LA370z (Post 3374311)
I would go with the 2015 sport personally.

Do you have a base sport?

Still in the process of trying to decide and find one :ugh2:


But I do love how a few of the members on here (that drive Touring/Touring Sport, mind you) tell me to go with the Base Sport, and that a true enthusiast doesn't need all of the extras. :stirthepot:

:inoutroflpuke:

mishuko 12-23-2015 07:58 AM

why even entertain them?

when i went to see the first car they would NOT budge on the price. i told him you're asking too much and it won't sell.

'but it's a rare colour (red) and a sports coupe' said the guy. 'we're taking it to a dealer auction this weekend and will be getting very close to our asking price' lol... right away i knew he was bullshitting because i called my buddies and they said there were none they were aware of.

a week later after i got my current he called me and i said i got a better, less milaege, lesser price, newer model z.

it sat on the lot for months.


tl;dr

fuk them. go get to another dealership.

oh and patience is key. YOU are in control. remember that.

mishuko 12-23-2015 08:00 AM

canada only had 2 options. base or touring for my model year.

they did eventually add a 'tech' option add on...

they dont even offer the automatic nismo in canada. maybe you can order it but last time i checked it wasn't in the optioning package.


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