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osbornsm 07-08-2015 07:50 AM

Such thing as insurance for the CSC?
 
I mean, if it's a "for sure to go" item, could we look into a policy or coverage for this and related charges?

I'm not a gambler, but this seems like a great idea, if there is such a thing.

Thoughts?

Meulen 07-08-2015 07:56 AM

there are mechanical policies you can look into. IMO you're better off either replacing it when you get the chance along with another mod your doing or just waiting for it to go and upgrading it.

kenchan 07-08-2015 07:58 AM

id just buy a spare csc and keep it with you if you're that worried. plus you track your car, right? just change it out when you get a new clutch and or fly wheel? i read total charge with labor is around 850-1000. to me dat's not a big deal? :confused:

my worry is the towing damage. and if i can detect fluid drop, then no need to tow.

2011 Nismo#91 07-08-2015 08:01 AM

The best insurance is to buy the HD CSC or CSC elimination kit, put it in a sealed bag/box with $800 and wait. There are mechanical breakdown insurances, they will cost you more but also cover more.

kenchan 07-08-2015 08:03 AM

btw, yesterday i posted in the maintenance repair section about my intermittent creaking clutch pedal. the noise coming from the csc, etc.

i changed fluid recently and that was causing the noise. i cycled the car and it's noise free. csc not leaking any fluid. ranger method recommends prestone dot4 for corvettes, i used my usual valvoline dot4. after one cycle, noise free now. :p

if you guys are getting creaking after fluid change, it could be the fluid itself not providing the lube the system needs.

kenchan 07-08-2015 10:49 AM

:ugh2: did i kill this thread?

Exhaust 07-08-2015 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3250560)
:ugh2: did i kill this thread?

No, thats my job.

kenchan 07-08-2015 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhaust (Post 3250606)
No, thats my job.

:shakes head:



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osbornsm 07-08-2015 01:17 PM

< thread > ++

...breathing life back. Suggestions are welcome, besides Buzz Killington above.
:icon18:

kenchan 07-08-2015 01:52 PM

osbornsm- :icon17:

yah, im just saying if you set aside money in your bank for possible failure, wouldn't that not be enough? speed up the process by keeping a spare csc in your garage or something, ready to go.

and if your csc never fails, heck, you got a grand to spend on your next ride and sell the csc. :D

kenchan 07-08-2015 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 3250381)
The best insurance is to buy the HD CSC or CSC elimination kit, put it in a sealed bag/box with $800 and wait. There are mechanical breakdown insurances, they will cost you more but also cover more.


I looked at a csc elimination kit pict the other day, and kinda lol'ed that it's basically the old design the 350Z/G35C's came with. :D

Austonian 07-08-2015 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3250783)
osbornsm- :icon17:

yah, im just saying if you set aside money in your bank for possible failure,

This is how I sleep at night.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3250787)
I looked at a csc elimination kit pict the other day, and kinda lol'ed that it's basically the old design the 350Z/G35C's came with. :D

but didn't they also have the same problem?

JARblue 07-08-2015 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3250787)
I looked at a csc elimination kit pict the other day, and kinda lol'ed that it's basically the old design the 350Z/G35C's came with. :D

That was the inspiration. Why Nissan went back to the old, shitty design is beyond comprehension :shakes head:

I bought the Z1 kit when my master started getting soft. I enlisted some help and did the install over a weekend. I did not want to get stranded since I drive all over Texas, including places with no cell service and no traffic. Road side assist doesn't do much good when you can't call them :ugh:

kenchan 07-08-2015 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Austonian (Post 3250792)
This is how I sleep at night.



but didn't they also have the same problem?

i thought they did too, but since the design is completely different, they encountered the external slave cylinder leak, not the CSC. much easier to repair i thinks.

Zbrah 07-08-2015 02:14 PM

insurance for the CSC?
 
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JARblue 07-08-2015 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Austonian (Post 3250792)
but didn't they also have the same problem?

It was the original internal design with plastic components that had the problem. They solved it by using an external slave for the last few model years IIRC. Then for the 370Z, they went back to the shitty, prone-to-failure original design :ugh2:

kenchan 07-08-2015 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3250794)
That was the inspiration. Why Nissan went back to the old, shitty design is beyond comprehension :shakes head:

I bought the Z1 kit when my master started getting soft. I enlisted some help and did the install over a weekend. I did not want to get stranded since I drive all over Texas, including places with no cell service and no traffic. Road side assist doesn't do much good when you can't call them :ugh:

Were the Z's CSC at one point? :confused: sorry, dont know the history of fairladies.

JARblue 07-08-2015 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3250795)
i thought they did too, but since the design is completely different, they encountered the external slave cylinder leak, not the CSC. much easier to repair i thinks.

Hrmm... did not hear as much about this.

I wonder how long it would take for problems with the Z1 kit to emerge. They did use a Howe racing cylinder (maybe better than the one Nissan chose?), and they have replacement cylinders for $60 with no transmission drop to install.

JARblue 07-08-2015 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3250799)
Were the Z's CSC at one point? :confused: sorry, dont know the history of fairladies.

I thought the early 350Z were internal CSC but they had problems (like the 370Z does) and so they went to an external slave in later years. But I'm no expert nor did I stay at Holiday Inn Express last night :confused: :icon17:

kenchan 07-08-2015 02:20 PM

fairladys.. fairladies...

kenchan 07-08-2015 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3250801)
Hrmm... did not hear as much about this.

I wonder how long it would take for problems with the Z1 kit to emerge. They did use a Howe racing cylinder (maybe better than the one Nissan chose?), and they have replacement cylinders for $60 with no transmission drop to install.

that is the beautify of your system. THAT i can fix on my own! :tup: dropping trannies, id need external help.


Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3250803)
I thought the early 350Z were internal CSC but they had problems (like the 370Z does) and so they went to an external slave in later years. But I'm no expert nor did I stay at Holiday Inn Express last night :confused: :icon17:


i see. my G35C (2004) has the old folk lever + pivot ball system with the external cylinder.

kenchan 07-08-2015 02:37 PM

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:gtfo2:

JARblue 07-08-2015 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3250812)
that is the beautify of your system. THAT i can fix on my own! :tup: dropping trannies, id need external help.

:iagree: part of my reasoning for this kit was to avoid having to drop the transmission if any more problems with the slave arise


Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3250812)
i see. my G35C (2004) has the old folk lever + pivot ball system with the external cylinder.

I just took at look at it. The Z1 kit looks far superior. And I like how some idiot vendor (who I already figured to be an idiot) was knocking the build quality :rolleyes:

The 350Z definitely had an internal CSC originally. I'm not exactly sure which years or models used an external one (I saw reports of 2007s with internal CSC failures). Or whether it was the same design as the G or they improved the G and used the new version on both Z and G in later years.

JARblue 07-08-2015 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3250840)
:gtfo2:

:iagree:

Zbrah 07-08-2015 02:46 PM

Fpenvy would agree :rofl2:

Zbrah 07-08-2015 03:31 PM

apatter8, Bad Boy, schellingr

He's back!! :rofl2:

Zbrah 07-08-2015 03:33 PM

http://www.the370z.com/customprofile...ic135656_7.gif

Might want to rotate the pic about 90* brah.

Nice haircut btw, looks bad :rofl2:

DavidZ370 07-08-2015 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zbrah (Post 3250899)
http://www.the370z.com/customprofile...ic135656_7.gif

Might want to rotate the pic about 90* brah.

Nice haircut btw, looks bad :rofl2:

Park predator lookin *** :bowrofl:



jk

axmea? 07-08-2015 04:03 PM

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We have lots of comedians here.

Austonian 07-08-2015 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidZ370 (Post 3250927)
Park predator lookin ***

all up in the bushes

kenchan 07-08-2015 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3250843)
:iagree: part of my reasoning for this kit was to avoid having to drop the transmission if any more problems with the slave arise

I just took at look at it. The Z1 kit looks far superior. And I like how some idiot vendor (who I already figured to be an idiot) was knocking the build quality :rolleyes:

The 350Z definitely had an internal CSC originally. I'm not exactly sure which years or models used an external one (I saw reports of 2007s with internal CSC failures). Or whether it was the same design as the G or they improved the G and used the new version on both Z and G in later years.

that's good that he z1 kit looks more robust. yah, i dont know the history of the external/internal slave setups either. but what i do know is that my G's clutch feels noticeably better than my Z's clutch even though it is said that csc provides a more direct feel. i dont think so! :icon17:

firulice 07-08-2015 07:02 PM

What we need to do is make a big enough scene and make nissan do a recall already

Zbrah 07-08-2015 07:08 PM

Yea, like stirring up **** on their facebook? That's working well :rofl2:

Got any good ideas?

dotcomee 07-08-2015 09:31 PM

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Only problem I see here is the stock radio? :confused:

firulice 07-08-2015 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zbrah (Post 3251089)
Yea, like stirring up **** on their facebook? That's working well :rofl2:

Got any good ideas?

Ha ha yeah that's not doing much obviously. We need to make a funny youtube video about Z owners buying stock in tow truck companies or something. What would rattle your cage as a nissan exec?

kenchan 07-08-2015 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firulice (Post 3251190)
Ha ha yeah that's not doing much obviously. We need to make a funny youtube video about Z owners buying stock in tow truck companies or something. What would rattle your cage as a nissan exec?

freedom fries?

Z Ninja 07-09-2015 12:59 AM

I called my dealer service department today (Campbell Nelson Nissan) and told him about the social media buzz regarding the failures of CSC in the Z. I asked him if it's covered by the warranty. He tells me he's only seen older model Z's have a CSC go out, and not with the newer ones. He also told me it's covered by the 5 year 50,000 power train warranty, whereas the clutch itself is not covered (pressure plate? for one). Based on what I've read about this whole situation, results seem to vary by what dealer you go through whether they just take care of it for free under warranty, or insist or charging thousands to replace everything in the clutch assembly, or blame the driver for driving their car too hard.

DavidZ370 07-09-2015 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z Ninja (Post 3251303)
I called my dealer service department today (Campbell Nelson Nissan) and told him about the social media buzz regarding the failures of CSC in the Z. I asked him if it's covered by the warranty. He tells me he's only seen older model Z's have a CSC go out, and not with the newer ones. He also told me it's covered by the 5 year 50,000 power train warranty, whereas the clutch itself is not covered (pressure plate? for one). Based on what I've read about this whole situation, results seem to vary by what dealer you go through whether they just take care of it for free under warranty, or insist or charging thousands to replace everything in the clutch assembly, or blame the driver for driving their car too hard.

Well it's clear that he's an idiot.

Jsolo 07-09-2015 06:20 PM

The CSC should be covered under the factory basic warranty (3yr/36K mi) or extended warranties (nissan's equivalent of infiniti elite care, etc). It is *not* covered under powertrain :(

JARblue 07-10-2015 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z Ninja (Post 3251303)
He also told me it's covered by the 5 year 50,000 power train warranty, whereas the clutch itself is not covered (pressure plate? for one).

Get this in writing from the dealer. I've only heard of two people that got their dealer to cover it after 3yr/36K miles under 5yr/60K mile power train warranty. And they were both at the same dealer. Most dealers will just try to rip you off for $1500 or so for parts and labor :wtf2:


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