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GZ3 06-12-2015 11:18 AM

Oil temp question
 
I ve read most of the oil threads and got some great info, plus past exp with my 370 also helps...my questions are....I read somewhere that the 12's and up come with an oil cooler, crappy, but something...I didnt see it when i was changing my oil last night... where is it located? I saw a pic somewhere and it was not like my configuration. 2. What oil have you guys noticed helps with the temps? I have been doing a little test of my own...Ran Pennzoil Ultra platinum and temps rise to 220 fairly fast... 230 or more having fun. I drained and put Amsoil sig series and the temps stay cooler longer and barely got it to 220:tup: Plus the UOA on this oil are amazing. Im about to try some redline and see how that goes. I believe redline has a bit more ester in it than amsoil. Not a RP fan....thanks

DEpointfive0 06-12-2015 11:54 AM

It's where you put the oil filter

Exhaust 06-12-2015 12:05 PM

Well limp mode isn't until 280 so it really isnt relevant for street driving. Most have been adding a 24 row for track days.

KN21283 06-12-2015 12:19 PM

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Here's a picture, it's a heat exchanger.

GZ3 06-12-2015 12:44 PM

yup my 12 does not have that :/

KN21283 06-12-2015 12:54 PM

It should, it's a donut style. In the picture, it shows it with a rubber hose running downwards. I had it and if I can find it I'll post it up.

jpkirk 06-12-2015 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KN21283 (Post 3226875)
Here's a picture, it's a heat exchanger.

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Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 3226906)
yup my 12 does not have that :/

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Originally Posted by KN21283 (Post 3226925)
It should, it's a donut style. In the picture, it shows it with a rubber hose running downwards. I had it and if I can find it I'll post it up.

To be clear, it looks like this picture shows a system that also has an external oil cooler installed.

Hear is a thread that shows the stock installation of the 2012 oil cooler.

Factory oil cooler

GZ3 06-12-2015 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jpkirk (Post 3226935)
To be clear, it looks like this picture shows a system that also has an external oil cooler installed.

interesting you say this.....does anyone have a pic of the acutal stock nissan oil cooler

got it!...thnx

KN21283 06-12-2015 01:05 PM

It's there, it's the piece with a rubber hose connected to it.

kenchan 06-12-2015 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 3226938)
interesting you say this.....does anyone have a pic of the acutal stock nissan oil cooler

got it!...thnx

u mean the radiator? lol

Kzonts 06-12-2015 01:09 PM

I use Mobil 1 Extended Performance which I found runs 10 degrees cooler (210) than standard Mobil 1 (220ish).

GZ3 06-12-2015 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3226942)
u mean the radiator? lol

haha basically right

KN21283 06-12-2015 01:13 PM

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GZ3 06-12-2015 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kzonts (Post 3226945)
I use Mobil 1 Extended Performance which I found runs 10 degrees cooler (210) than standard Mobil 1 (220ish).

this is good info, thanks. What kind of driving style?

jpkirk 06-12-2015 01:15 PM

For reference, here is AK's 2009 (?) without the oil cooler

Without oil cooler

GZ3 06-12-2015 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jpkirk (Post 3226955)
For reference, here is AK's 2009 (?) without the oil cooler

Without oil cooler

that is exactly what my 12 looks like...i called nissan to verify its a 12 with the VIN and it is....looks like a got screwed there

jpkirk 06-12-2015 01:21 PM

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The factory oil cooler comes on all 2012 and later. It is a water to oil cooler that is sandwiched between the engine block and the oil filter. If you follow that single hose you will see that it leads to the engine cooling system.

GZ3 06-12-2015 01:24 PM

ill take a closer look tonight, but it looked exaclty like AK...filter then oil pan

Trips 06-12-2015 01:28 PM

The prior owner may have removed it and installed an oil cooler only to remove it before selling/trading it in.

Check for plugged coolant hoses or see if he/they joined the 2 coolant hoses.

That would probably explain why you don't have one IF it's not vin related.

GZ3 06-12-2015 01:37 PM

thanks trips. ill take a closer look around to see if maybe someone removed it. From what i hear its not not great of a cooler to begin with.

kenchan 06-12-2015 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 3226951)
haha basically right

yah, if i was to do the stock cooler from scratch, id just put in an aftermarket one.

but in the 6yrs ownership, ive not had one instance where i needed an oil cooler from my spirited drives.

GZ3 06-12-2015 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3227125)
yah, if i was to do the stock cooler from scratch, id just put in an aftermarket one.

but in the 6yrs ownership, ive not had one instance where i needed an oil cooler from my spirited drives.

I really pushed it a couple of nights ago, short of bieng on a track---temps peaked at 230 and fell rather quickly after. Amsoil seems to run a little better in this car too

Kzonts 06-12-2015 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 3226953)
this is good info, thanks. What kind of driving style?

It was 92 last week and I was driving stop and go through town. Spirited driving on the highway as well.

Spooler 06-12-2015 03:12 PM

I got the same results when I switch to Amsoil Signature Series oil. My temps stay at about 215 cruising. Use to be 220. So, a little improvment. Push the car hard in the upper RPM range and the oil temps rise. I have gotten mine to about 240-255 or so with the stock oil cooler.

GZ3 06-12-2015 03:55 PM

Amsoil seems to be great oil and doesnt sheer at high temp. I ran ss 5w30 in my 5.0 for 8k with over 30 passes at the track. Sent a sample off to blackstone and they said it was perfect, could have even put another 4k on it.

Anyway i couldnt wait... About to put my car on a lift and see if my 12 has the cooler on it

vtec to vvel 06-12-2015 05:48 PM

sidebar question:

the highest temp. my 09 Z has seen is right under 220. what is the safest temperature before the "danger" zone?

vtec to vvel 06-12-2015 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 3227014)
thanks trips. ill take a closer look around to see if maybe someone removed it. From what i hear its not not great of a cooler to begin with.

having oil cooler > not having oil cooler.

it's like walking in rain with no umbrella vs walking in rain with umbrella with a few holes in it, not the best umbrella but still gives you that much more coverage from the rain.

TexasChuck 06-12-2015 06:08 PM

To: GZ3
 
The info on the Amsoil and the oil test results. Thanks.

GZ3 06-12-2015 06:45 PM

My attention to detail is off... The oil cooler is there.

GZ3 06-12-2015 06:47 PM

Texas chuck, the oil i used/use is amsoil signature series 5w30... Let me dig up that report for you

GZ3 06-12-2015 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 3227359)
having oil cooler > not having oil cooler.

it's like walking in rain with no umbrella vs walking in rain with umbrella with a few holes in it, not the best umbrella but still gives you that much more coverage from the rain.

Thats is true haha i wouldnt call the oil cooler a full unbrella though, in nissan's case of the stock oil cooler i would say its a hand full of papers over your head in a thunderstorm

SouthArk370Z 06-12-2015 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 3227351)
sidebar question:

the highest temp. my 09 Z has seen is right under 220. what is the safest temperature before the "danger" zone?

Most oils are good to 300 F or more. Limp mode (280 F, IIRC) will protect the engine. Keep oil temp between 210 and 260 F and you should be OK.

vtec to vvel 06-12-2015 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 3227398)
Thats is true haha i wouldnt call the oil cooler a full unbrella though, in nissan's case of the stock oil cooler i would say its a hand full of papers over your head in a thunderstorm

:icon18: well-played on words choice for the analogy! :tup:

vtec to vvel 06-12-2015 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3227417)
Most oils are good to 300 F or more. Limp mode (280 F, IIRC) will protect the engine. Keep oil temp between 210 and 260 F and you should be OK.

gotcha, I wasn't sure, as I have been hearing mixed things. I have an 09 (no stock oil cooler), and every time I see the temps near 220, i usually panic.

I've noticed, though, that if i turn on the AC, it somewhat cools the temps down?

SouthArk370Z 06-13-2015 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 3227465)
I've noticed, though, that if i turn on the AC, it somewhat cools the temps down?

When you turn on the A/C, the car kicks on both radiator fans.

4TthAnnyZ 06-13-2015 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 3227222)
Amsoil seems to be great oil and doesnt sheer at high temp. I ran ss 5w30 in my 5.0 for 8k with over 30 passes at the track. Sent a sample off to blackstone and they said it was perfect, could have even put another 4k on it.



Anyway i couldnt wait... About to put my car on a lift and see if my 12 has the cooler on it


I switched to Amsoil signature 5w30 just a few weeks ago. I have noticed consistently lower oil temps by 10-15 degrees, even on 80* days, and I do not have an oil cooler. I will say that it takes much longer for my car to reach operating oil temp though.

Previously I was using Valvoline Synpower only because I get it for free. But I wasn't comfortable with it anymore.


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GZ3 06-13-2015 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 4TthAnnyZ (Post 3227795)
I switched to Amsoil signature 5w30 just a few weeks ago. I have noticed consistently lower oil temps by 10-15 degrees, even on 80* days, and I do not have an oil cooler. I will say that it takes much longer for my car to reach operating oil temp though.

Previously I was using Valvoline Synpower only because I get it for free. But I wasn't comfortable with it anymore.


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Good info, Im going to drain and fill with SS tonight. That oil can take a beating. Im curious what the redline users have to report with with temps.

Limeybastard 06-15-2015 01:14 AM

Ok so we established the 13 MY 370z came with a useless factory oil cooler. I am yet to see any major posts showing evidence that this "update/revision" reduces oil temp compared to prior Model Years.

onzedge 06-15-2015 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jpkirk (Post 3226935)
To be clear, it looks like this picture shows a system that also has an external oil cooler installed.

Hear is a thread that shows the stock installation of the 2012 oil cooler.

Factory oil cooler

:iagree:

GZ3 06-16-2015 10:13 AM

Ill find that damn Oil report, having to look through several usb's of mine smh

On another note, I ve decided to bypass amsoil and test redline because its more ester based oil


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