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Memphis370Z 05-28-2015 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by moody_i (Post 3206901)
Hey guys, so I got a speeding ticket for going 50 on 35. I was on my way to school in the morning and the cop on the motor cycle caught me with the radar gun I believe. Although I'm not sure he did because I didn't ask. However, I did not have my wallet that day because somehow I just couldn't find it in the morning, thus after receiving the ticket I find out he spelled my name incorrect by one letter and wrote one number wrong for my drivers license number. This is not a typical pink ticket by the cops. It was printed out and long because I guess it's a cyclist cop, and that's all they do is ruin citizens day. What does this mean? Am I going to be in the system? Did I get lucky? My address on the ticket is correct, however.

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 3212093)
I'm confused. What does your point have to do with mine? That I would be angry because the OP was speeding?

The point of my analogy of wrong amputation vs speeding is the principle of attention to detail, and not so much of the level/degree of severity between the two. Both require specific attention to detail. If the leo writes inaccurate information on a citation, how much credibility do you think s/he will have in court? A decent lawyer can likely get a speeding ticket dismissed without any typos/inaccuracies, thus I'm pretty sure that a decent lawyer could get an inaccurate ticket dismissed, under what you stated as a "technicality", which btw you just proved my point to be valid (i.e. getting off on a technicality), after calling it "garbage".

And yes, all because one letter/number/character is off, a lawyer could use that and possibly get the ticket dismissed, as you have stated, on a technicality.

Sure, officers know to calibrate their equipment, as they are trained to do so. Officers are humans as well and can get complacent, and most importantly, as you also have stated, humans (which includes leo's) can make mistakes.

In the OP's case, it seems that the errors on the ticket may have occurred because the OP didn't have his license with him. Driving without your license is one thing; speeding without your license is another. I would have been more concerned about the ticket for driving without my license present. OP didn't say if the cop cited him for that, but I'll take his omission as a "no." Kind of a lucky break, in my opinion. Not beating up on the OP, but where is his responsibility and accountability?

vtec to vvel 05-28-2015 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Memphis370Z (Post 3212107)
In the OP's case, it seems that the errors on the ticket may have occurred because the OP didn't have his license with him. Driving without your license is one thing; speeding without your license is another. I would have been more concerned about the ticket for driving without my license present. OP didn't say if the cop cited him for that, but I'll take his omission as a "no." Kind of a lucky break, in my opinion. Not beating up on the OP, but where is his responsibility and accountability?

true, i must have missed the part of about no wallet. however, leo's only need your SSN to look you up in the system in cases like this one.

Spooler 05-28-2015 09:32 PM

Man, a bunch of tado about a ticket. When you get close to 15 points and on the verge of loosing your license. Then talk to me. Yeap, just a little bit crazier in my younger days...:)

zguynate 05-28-2015 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RayMaN (Post 3212047)
Lol.. Bro.. Murder is also "extreme" (more so than amputation even) so.. Him speeding a little.. Really shouldn't be compared to any of that..

In my personal experience.. Cops have straight up lied.. I was speeding, cop pulls me over and gives me a reckless driving ticket.. When I read the ticket.. It said (I'm being serious here) that I was driving in such a reckless manor that cars were swerving off the road to avoid me crashing into them.. I couldn't believe it.. Had to get a lawyer and go through the court stuff.. In the end.. Cop agreed to reduce it to careless driving rather than reckless..

Bull f***ing shi*.. Had to pay court fees, lawyer, the ticket itself.. And had to do a ridiculous amount of community service hours..
All because the cop decided to lie and punish me for a more severe offense than what I had actually done..

Another incident.. Was speeding (82 on a 70).. Cop pulls me over.. Tells me I was doing 90.. I tell him I actually had cruise control set to 82 so I wasn't going 90.. His response.. "Oh.. So you're admitting to speeding then" gave me the ticket for 90.. This might seem negligible (90 rather than 82).. But it's not.. Going more than 15 mph over gets you points and therefore higher insurance rates.. So rather than paying it and that's it (what I deserved).. I had to do the whole driving school crap to avoid the points on my license.. Again.. Just because a cop was a ****.

Sorry.. I have no respect for cops

The murder thing was in regards to my dislike for defense attorneys. Which isn't extreme. Defense attorneys get people off for murder all the time for technicalities such as the infamous "if the glove don't fit, you must acquit". For real!? EVERYONE knew he did it (OJ Simpson if you don't know). I wasn't comparing his speeding to murder...

Im sorry you have had bad run ins with the police. But you having no respect for someone you don't know, because of a few bad apples is very ignorant. There are over 700,000 police officers in the states. All of them must be bad right? Thats like saying, "I had this tech at Firestone tell me my battery was bad, but I just got it. He was trying to jack me around! All mechanics are all liars!".

Me personally, every time I have been pulled over, I knew exactly why as soon as I saw the lights. I was in the wrong every single time. Most recently at ZDayZ. Other than that, I have never been harassed or lied on. I have never been treated badly.

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Originally Posted by vtec to vvel (Post 3212093)
I'm confused. What does your point have to do with mine? That I would be angry because the OP was speeding?

The point of my analogy of wrong amputation vs speeding is the principle of attention to detail, and not so much of the level/degree of severity between the two. Both require specific attention to detail. If the leo writes inaccurate information on a citation, how much credibility do you think s/he will have in court? A decent lawyer can likely get a speeding ticket dismissed without any typos/inaccuracies, thus I'm pretty sure that a decent lawyer could get an inaccurate ticket dismissed, under what you stated as a "technicality", which btw you just proved my point to be valid (i.e. getting off on a technicality), after calling it "garbage".

And yes, all because one letter/number/character is off, a lawyer could use that and possibly get the ticket dismissed, as you have stated, on a technicality.

Sure, officers know to calibrate their equipment, as they are trained to do so. Officers are humans as well and can get complacent, and most importantly, as you also have stated, humans (which includes leo's) can make mistakes.

My point was from my original response of how stupid it can be to let someone off of a major crime for a trivial mistake of an officer, hence why I have a general dislike for defense attorneys.

I understood your analogy, however the severity of attention to detail in the situation you presented was very extreme in comparison to the speeding ticket. Which is why I went to the murder extreme.

We are arguing the same thing lol. Yes, a defense attorney can get you off of a crime that you committed on a technicality. Which as you have pointed out, I find as "garbage". On a speeding ticket, no big deal. Im sure that officer gives not a flip at all if the ticket is dismissed or held. But in cases that are more severe, where someone was actually victimized, that gets under my skin. How has justice been served on something like that? Could you explain to the victim of a violent crime "Hey look, I know that guy did it, but because a minor mistake was made in the investigation, we are letting him go."

RayMaN 05-29-2015 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dragonbreath (Post 3212197)
Im sorry you have had bad run ins with the police. But you having no respect for someone you don't know, because of a few bad apples is very ignorant.

Call me ignorant all you want.. But the whole.. "Just a few bad apples" thing.. I just don't buy it.. Seems more like just a few GOOD apples are left.

I go by how I've been treated.. If I get pulled over and the cop treats me fair.. I have no problem with that particular police officer.. But thanks to my personal experience.. Just seems like they can do whatever they want and screw people over without any repercussions.. I just can't support that.

mishuko 05-29-2015 07:00 AM

so it seems that the fairly consistent responses from cops in certain situations.

1) act like an arrogant douchebag leads to you getting nailed hard
2) show a little class and treat them like humans and you seem to get off with some leniancy

is this the start of the end? is this where we turn into my350z run by some punk arse kids who was able to scrape together some money with bank of ma and pa to get you some new toy that you don't deserve?

everyone has a bad experience now and then but here's the kicker.


GET OVER YOURSELF!

njobe89 05-29-2015 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mishuko (Post 3212372)
so it seems that the fairly consistent responses from cops in certain situations.

1) act like an arrogant douchebag leads to you getting nailed hard
2) show a little class and treat them like humans and you seem to get off with some leniency

is this the start of the end? is this where we turn into my350z run by some punk arse kids who was able to scrape together some money with bank of ma and pa to get you some new toy that you don't deserve?

everyone has a bad experience now and then but here's the kicker.


GET OVER YOURSELF!

it's funny you say that.... when i was actually driving recklessy i got pulled over by a cop (i'm always nice when i get pulled over). he let me go off with a verbal warning, not even a written one. when i got pulled over for not driving recklessy, i was nice to that cop as well. i told her i knew i was going 10-15mph over the speed limit cause i was late to class. she gave me a reckless driving. wtf lol

it's life. with some things you do you get caught and punished and with some nothing happens.

when life gives you lemons, sell them and buy oranges. orange juice tastes better.

RayMaN 05-29-2015 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by mishuko (Post 3212372)
so it seems that the fairly consistent responses from cops in certain situations.

1) act like an arrogant douchebag leads to you getting nailed hard
2) show a little class and treat them like humans and you seem to get off with some leniancy

WRONG!!
I've always been respectful.. To everyone not just cops.. The whole "treat others how you want to be treated" idea. But if the cop just has his panties in a bunch that day.. You're ******..

Also.. If for some reason you are an arrogant ***.. That doesn't give the cop the right to lie and write you up for something you didn't do..

osbornsm 05-29-2015 09:38 AM

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RicerX 05-29-2015 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by moody_i (Post 3206901)
Hey guys, so I got a speeding ticket for going 50 on 35. I was on my way to school in the morning and the cop on the motor cycle caught me with the radar gun I believe. Although I'm not sure he did because I didn't ask. However, I did not have my wallet that day because somehow I just couldn't find it in the morning, thus after receiving the ticket I find out he spelled my name incorrect by one letter and wrote one number wrong for my drivers license number. This is not a typical pink ticket by the cops. It was printed out and long because I guess it's a cyclist cop, and that's all they do is ruin citizens day. What does this mean? Am I going to be in the system? Did I get lucky? My address on the ticket is correct, however.

Let's recap.

1) OP admits to being ticketed for speeding on car forum, with picture of said car cited in ticket of topic neatly positioned next to his post.

2) OP admits to driving without a license.

3) OP admits to driving without proof of insurance.

4) OP admits to home address being correct on citation, which is likely where pictured vehicle is registered.

5) OP doesn't connect the dots that the cop found all of his information via his license plate number or other info ONLY.

6) OP criticizes LEO for misspelling information, yet struggles with basic punctuation, sentence structure, and hyphenates.

The LEO did you a solid by police-googling your **** and not making it worse for you. It easily could have been much worse for you than it is. Pay your ****, learn your lesson, and move on with your life. You're 20 years old with a 370Z - with great power comes great responsibility.

However, keep driving like a douchebag and driving up average cost of insurance for a 370Z for the rest of us and the e-lynching will be much worse on the next ticket you get.

onzedge 05-29-2015 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RicerX (Post 3212552)
Let's recap.

1) OP admits to being ticketed for speeding on car forum, with picture of said car cited in ticket of topic neatly positioned next to his post.

2) OP admits to driving without a license.

3) OP admits to driving without proof of insurance.

4) OP admits to home address being correct on citation, which is likely where pictured vehicle is registered.

5) OP doesn't connect the dots that the cop found all of his information via his license plate number or other info ONLY.

6) OP criticizes LEO for misspelling information, yet struggles with basic punctuation, sentence structure, and hyphenates.

The LEO did you a solid by police-googling your **** and not making it worse for you. It easily could have been much worse for you than it is. Pay your ****, learn your lesson, and move on with your life. You're 20 years old with a 370Z - with great power comes great responsibility.

However, keep driving like a douchebag and driving up average cost of insurance for a 370Z for the rest of us and the e-lynching will be much worse on the next ticket you get.

Right on, Mr. RicerX.

Fuzzzy 05-29-2015 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by moody_i (Post 3206901)
Hey guys, so I got a speeding ticket for going 50 on 35. I was on my way to school...What does this mean? Am I going to be in the system? Did I get lucky? My address on the ticket is correct, however.

It is going on your permanent record, Bub. The course of your life has been forever altered.

kenchan 05-29-2015 11:50 AM

the biggest point of this thread is that he got chased and pulled over by a cop on a bicycle.

Zipper 104 05-29-2015 02:08 PM

Thank you.
 
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Originally Posted by RicerX (Post 3212552)
Let's recap.

1) OP admits to being ticketed for speeding on car forum, with picture of said car cited in ticket of topic neatly positioned next to his post.

2) OP admits to driving without a license.

3) OP admits to driving without proof of insurance.

4) OP admits to home address being correct on citation, which is likely where pictured vehicle is registered.

5) OP doesn't connect the dots that the cop found all of his information via his license plate number or other info ONLY.

6) OP criticizes LEO for misspelling information, yet struggles with basic punctuation, sentence structure, and hyphenates.

The LEO did you a solid by police-googling your **** and not making it worse for you. It easily could have been much worse for you than it is. Pay your ****, learn your lesson, and move on with your life. You're 20 years old with a 370Z - with great power comes great responsibility.

However, keep driving like a douchebag and driving up average cost of insurance for a 370Z for the rest of us and the e-lynching will be much worse on the next ticket you get.

A BIG thank you for saving me from banging on my keyboard for an hour.

104

EndyKwon 05-29-2015 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RicerX (Post 3212552)
Let's recap.

1) OP admits to being ticketed for speeding on car forum, with picture of said car cited in ticket of topic neatly positioned next to his post.

2) OP admits to driving without a license.

3) OP admits to driving without proof of insurance.

4) OP admits to home address being correct on citation, which is likely where pictured vehicle is registered.

5) OP doesn't connect the dots that the cop found all of his information via his license plate number or other info ONLY.

6) OP criticizes LEO for misspelling information, yet struggles with basic punctuation, sentence structure, and hyphenates.

The LEO did you a solid by police-googling your **** and not making it worse for you. It easily could have been much worse for you than it is. Pay your ****, learn your lesson, and move on with your life. You're 20 years old with a 370Z - with great power comes great responsibility.

However, keep driving like a douchebag and driving up average cost of insurance for a 370Z for the rest of us and the e-lynching will be much worse on the next ticket you get.


:iagree:

However, let's *try* to sympathize with OP. Lets be real now, this car is hard not to speed in. I understand that we try to have fun every now and then outside of the track, whether it would be in the streets or the canyons. Now, I'm not saying I drive like a BMW driver in the streets but I don't blame OP for being a testosterone filled driver like the most of us (including me at the age of 21). Maybe he does lack a little bit of common sense at times, but don't we all?

I'll tell you my story OP:

I floored it on Hollywood Way in Burbank doing a fun 0-60 pull on an empty stretch. We all know the car is incredibly fun to pull from gears 1- halfway through 3. BPD pulled me over for going 50 in a 35 and understandibly so. Sure, he may have looked like an ******* at the time, but he was only doing his job. I definitely did not do 60 in a 35 ;), so he gave me a lucky break. Yes, there were some errors on his ticket, but it stood firm. Considering that he got the rest of your information right, you have no excuse. Same case with me. I paid the fine and decided to write a written declaration saying that I wasn't guilty and the officer may have paced me wrong... In your case, he got you on radar.

Your best shot is to write a written dec and turn it in at the last possible date, you could extend the deadline by 30-60 more days iirc and you can go for that option as well. IF the officer doesn't reply to the declaration, because most of them (in my case) never want to deal with paperwork, you'll definitely get your case dismissed.

As far as showing up in court option goes, I hear (this isn't fact, this is just what I've heard) officers don't get paid for their time to show up in court. So unless this guy has a justice boner against you, you should be fine. Just make sure to do it at the last moment possible.

Don't speed in the streets man, I know its fun but you're making yourself look like a maniac to other peoples' eyes and not doing yourself a favor overall. Also, making Z drivers look like BMW drivers. My threeseventy cents. Oh, and yes I got my case dismissed and never sped again.


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