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chief_Roka 10-20-2009 02:52 AM

fairladyZ33 weight difference to 350z. with links.
 
Nissan 350Z

Nissan Fairlady Z Specification- J's Garage Export - importing jdm cars and parts from Japan -


its very hard to find Z34 weight comparisons from jdm to US BUT was easy to show the difference on the z33. As a general theory that the japanese versions of this car is lighter is supported through seperate articles on each car.

One showing the fairlady to be around 1480kg = app. 3200 lbs which is shown in j garage.
And wiki search of the american car shows to be over 1600kg= app 3500lbs.
This supports what I stated about my friends fairlady being lighter than the 350z and also shows here a probability of this being possible with the Z34.

You wanted links. U got em.
As I stated my friends car was somewhere around 288lbs lighter. These 2 sights support what I said.

370Zsteve 10-20-2009 04:50 AM

Chief,

Wasn't it some comment about metallurgy that got you all those nasty responses? I don't think anyone will deny that US safety regs will get you a heavier car. Crash beams in the doors of US models comes to mind immediately, not sure if they have them in Japan.

phelan 10-20-2009 08:36 AM

I can't tell if those are the same model years. But this site:

2005 Nissan 350Z 35th Anniversary Edition Price, Specs & More | RSportsCars.com

Has the 2005 35th anniversary edition, weighing in at the following

Weight lb (kg): 3225 (1464)

2005 Nissan 350Z | Nissan : this one has 1474 kgs.

Your JDM site claims weights of 1480. So...wait, USDM was lighter??

370Zsteve 10-20-2009 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phelan (Post 245179)
Your JDM site claims weights of 1480. So...wait, USDM was lighter??

Ruh-roh!

Lug 10-20-2009 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chief_Roka (Post 245044)
Nissan 350Z

Nissan Fairlady Z Specification- J's Garage Export - importing jdm cars and parts from Japan -


its very hard to find Z34 weight comparisons from jdm to US BUT was easy to show the difference on the z33. As a general theory that the japanese versions of this car is lighter is supported through seperate articles on each car.

One showing the fairlady to be around 1480kg = app. 3200 lbs which is shown in j garage.
And wiki search of the american car shows to be over 1600kg= app 3500lbs.
This supports what I stated about my friends fairlady being lighter than the 350z and also shows here a probability of this being possible with the Z34.

You wanted links. U got em.
As I stated my friends car was somewhere around 288lbs lighter. These 2 sights support what I said.

You might want to do a bit more research. The 350Z coupe weighed anywhere from 3188 to 3400 lbs (there was a 150 lb gain and corresponding HP boost in 2006). The only Z that weighed anywhere near 3500 lbs was the Roadsters (according to the WIKI, BTW). You are also comparing apples to oranges when you use an export garage's numbers because he's trying to sell you something. I'd trust Nissan's own numbers a bit more.

rednek01 10-20-2009 09:44 AM

What a joke!!!!
 
You have got to be kidding me? This is getting beyond ridiculous How many times are we going to have to go through this same joke. Once again as was stated before by several people the last time you brought this up.

The JDM version very well possibly could be 100lbs or so lighter due to it having less safety equipment however it is doubtful they changed too much because that would/could drive up cost and complications on the assembly line.


I don't think any one denied that fact. What was ludicrous was your statement about How there was more carbon fiber and titanium, and that they use different metallurgy specs because of the safety regulations being less stringent.


:gtfo2::ban::ban::ban:

Quote:

Originally Posted by chief_Roka (Post 234327)
Also in japan cars are 300 to 500 lbs lighter cuz they don't have as strict regulations on metallurgy and safety equipment. This is y this japan test is almost invalid to compare to the american Z.
That being said. Rip out ur airbag system. Add more carbon fiber/titanium n aluminum parts and u hav a japanese Z. That can change the dynamics greatly and wouldn't be surpised if the japanese Z is 2900lbs.


theDreamer 10-20-2009 09:55 AM

:drama:
Wow, Tuesday morning and my morning drama is already up and running, puts a smile on my face. :D

phelan 10-20-2009 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lug (Post 245214)
You might want to do a bit more research. The 350Z coupe weighed anywhere from 3188 to 3400 lbs (there was a 150 lb gain and corresponding HP boost in 2006). The only Z that weighed anywhere near 3500 lbs was the Roadsters (according to the WIKI, BTW). You are also comparing apples to oranges when you use an export garage's numbers because he's trying to sell you something. I'd trust Nissan's own numbers a bit more.

Perhaps, but I'd be more concerned with the comparison between apples to oranges of just model year and type. Even I don't know what trim level the websites I found were giving me, but at least I narrowed it down to the 2005 model year, so we can compare it to Mr. "I Import JDM".

Lug 10-20-2009 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phelan (Post 245238)
Perhaps, but I'd be more concerned with the comparison between apples to oranges of just model year and type. Even I don't know what trim level the websites I found were giving me, but at least I narrowed it down to the 2005 model year, so we can compare it to Mr. "I Import JDM".

Oh, and sights != sites.

specs by year and trim level at bottom of page...

Nissan 350Z - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

..of course several guys at that other site claim Nissan is telling lies here. :D

Modshack 10-20-2009 12:07 PM

Give it up.....:shakes head:

http://www.nerocam.com/SCC_Images/image033.jpg

theDreamer 10-20-2009 12:08 PM

Damn you modshack and that picture, gets me laughing every time.

chief_Roka 10-20-2009 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 245057)
Chief,

Wasn't it some comment about metallurgy that got you all those nasty responses? I don't think anyone will deny that US safety regs will get you a heavier car. Crash beams in the doors of US models comes to mind immediately, not sure if they have them in Japan.


Dude to show how people misconstrue what other people say. I never said they use different metallurgy. I just said they are allowed to use more lightweight materials.
Al. The metal is the same. Some ares are less reinforced than others. Then I mentioned also that titanium is widely used in jdm aftermarket parts.

When I say they use more lightweight material. I'm saying this...
A aluminum reiforcement on a car versus a steel reinforcement creates more weight in the steel reinforcement. The japanese don't use steel as a reinforcement IN SOME CARS. We in the us do. We do not accept aluminum as a legitimate reinforcement.
This is why we had issues getting the skyline n gtr. The G37 and skyline are not the same in chassis reinforcement.

This is what I'm saying. Most of you guys I thought were seasoned enthusiasts and understood this concept and didn't need links to show this.
And no it wasn't just metallurgy. A lot of guys told me to prove that the Z n fairlady were different in weight. I have been getting insulted over it all week. Then made fun of.
I didn't get the links cuz people were rude. N wen I asked for real enthusiasts. It wasn't to hurt peoples feelings. It was more to converse on a functional mod level than who has the best Z n crap like that. Or just dyno sheets. (Which are cool but need to be finished with some accel times. When my Z comes in. I will be more than happy to go to TMS n laser the ride to get u that info. But I would like to see others too
).A lot of senseless arguing lately.
Right now a new 7at and 6m thread for the hundreth time just popped up. N though I think the question dude is asking is legit. I bet sum1 will go in there and fu€k it up.
That whole metallurgy thing. Totally misconstrued. A lot of lil clicks in here. Independant minded or newbies or people that have less knowledge get ridiculed up in here.

My statement in the blog bout this forum goin down the tubes....
When I do a search of threads written b4 may. A lot of good stiuff. No chastizing. And people teaching. Now... its mock fest. Everyone is clicked up n lookin to find peoples weaknesses. Its stupid. We can all learn from each other. But that's not the goal here.
Racial comments like I don't speak guido, or dumb comments like slap whoever told u that in the face is extremely common and disrespectful. And it causes a$$hole rebuttals to cum from me. Which I shouldn't even waste my time but anyway.

Here's your proof. Nuff said.

Yeah there's slang in my writing. Yeah there's a couple typos. I ain't fixin sh1t. This how its stayin. N yeah I'm a fu€k1n sp1k. A puerto rican sp1k. But I'm a sp1k that keepz it gully 24/7 n fu€k wh@t any1 has 2 say. So no I'm no GUIDO! IF U GUNNA CALL ME OUT? DO IT RIGHT! GET IT RIGHT... that ones for joe d. Wit a bullet.

FuszNissan 10-20-2009 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 245225)
:drama:
Wow, Tuesday morning and my morning drama is already up and running, puts a smile on my face. :D

Pass me the popcorn Dreamer

chief_Roka 10-20-2009 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rednek01 (Post 245219)
you have got to be kidding me? This is getting beyond ridiculous how many times are we going to have to go through this same joke. Once again as was stated before by several people the last time you brought this up.

The jdm version very well possibly could be 100lbs or so lighter due to it having less safety equipment however it is doubtful they changed too much because that would/could drive up cost and complications on the assembly line.


I don't think any one denied that fact. What was ludicrous was your statement about how there was more carbon fiber and titanium, and that they use different metallurgy specs because of the safety regulations being less stringent.


:gtfo2::ban::ban::ban:

the reinforcents on jdm are aluminum the american car is steel. Only different metal in the reinforcent but still is lefit as different metallurgy y red nek bastud!

Modshack 10-20-2009 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chief_Roka (Post 245630)
Yeah there's slang in my writing. Yeah there's a couple typos. I ain't fixin sh1t. This how its stayin. N yeah I'm a fu€k1n sp1k. A puerto rican sp1k. But I'm a sp1k that keepz it gully 24/7 n fu€k wh@t any1 has 2 say. So no I'm no GUIDO! IF U GUNNA CALL ME OUT? DO IT RIGHT! GET IT RIGHT... that ones for joe d. Wit a bullet.

I think you just said all that anyone here needs to know....(and that wasn't a thumbs up)......Duh....

chief_Roka 10-20-2009 04:14 PM

Ur all a bunch of idiots tryin to dissect and beat around the bush to be right. Ur just dumb asses!
EFF ALL A U! ON THIS THREAD!

chief_Roka 10-20-2009 04:15 PM

Ur all a bunch of idiots tryin to dissect and beat around the bush to be right. Ur just dumb asses!
EFF ALL A U! ON THIS THREAD!

I thought rednecks drive muscle cars????? Mullets n imports don't match moron

FuszNissan 10-20-2009 04:17 PM

:drama:

370Zsteve 10-20-2009 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chief_Roka (Post 245630)
N yeah I'm a fu€k1n sp1k. A puerto rican sp1k. But I'm a sp1k that keepz it gully 24/7 n fu€k wh@t any1 has 2 say. So no I'm no GUIDO! IF U GUNNA CALL ME OUT? DO IT RIGHT! GET IT RIGHT... that ones for joe d. Wit a bullet.

:wtf2:

FuszNissan 10-20-2009 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chief_Roka (Post 245640)
Ur all a bunch of idiots tryin to dissect and beat around the bush to be right. Ur just dumb asses!
EFF ALL A U! ON THIS THREAD!

I thought rednecks drive muscle cars????? Mullets n imports don't match moron

:wtf2:

rednek01 10-20-2009 04:18 PM

YOU DIDNT GIVE ANY PROOF! You searched the internet till you found numbers that kind of backed up your argument but you have no idea whether they are real or not nor do you know whether they were the same model and same production year.

I can go out all day long on the internet and find numbers that will back up my argument whether they are real or not or true or not.

And on top of all of that Phelan on the 3rd post down proved you wrong by doing so!


GIVE UP ALREADY! :ugh2:

Blown32 10-20-2009 04:19 PM

WOW!Bullets is flying man!
Got my helmet and flack jacket on...PTSD is haunting me man!

rednek01 10-20-2009 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chief_Roka (Post 245640)
Ur all a bunch of idiots tryin to dissect and beat around the bush to be right. Ur just dumb asses!
EFF ALL A U! ON THIS THREAD!

I thought rednecks drive muscle cars????? Mullets n imports don't match moron

I drive a mustang smart guy!

Quote:

Originally Posted by chief_Roka (Post 245635)
the reinforcents on jdm are aluminum the american car is steel. Only different metal in the reinforcent but still is lefit as different metallurgy y red nek bastud!


first I will ask for proof that the reinforcements are aluminum and not steel on the JDM car (I wont even ask what reinforcements because well I dont want to LOL to loud at work!)

Secondly I have not once resorted to such immaturity as personally bashing some one so in seeing how childish you are I am going to just let this be because its pointless to argue with a 12 year old...

370Zsteve 10-20-2009 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rednek01 (Post 245651)
I drive a mustang smart guy!

:drama:

Modshack 10-20-2009 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blown32 (Post 245648)
WOW!Bullets is flying man!
Got my helmet and flack jacket on...PTSD is haunting me man!

Post Reported....This guy's an idiot..

phelan 10-20-2009 04:25 PM

:drama:

actually, no, now it's

:wtf2:

WATCH THAT CROSSFIRE BOYS!

FuszNissan 10-20-2009 04:25 PM

:ban:

370Zsteve 10-20-2009 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 245357)

That car, please stop..........:roflpuke2::roflpuke2::roflpuke2:

phelan 10-20-2009 04:26 PM

and enjoy your :ban: chief.

theDreamer 10-20-2009 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chief_Roka (Post 245630)
Dude to show how people misconstrue what other people say. I never said they use different metallurgy. I just said they are allowed to use more lightweight materials.
Al. The metal is the same. Some ares are less reinforced than others. Then I mentioned also that titanium is widely used in jdm aftermarket parts.

When I say they use more lightweight material. I'm saying this...
A aluminum reiforcement on a car versus a steel reinforcement creates more weight in the steel reinforcement. The japanese don't use steel as a reinforcement IN SOME CARS. We in the us do. We do not accept aluminum as a legitimate reinforcement.
This is why we had issues getting the skyline n gtr. The G37 and skyline are not the same in chassis reinforcement.

This is what I'm saying. Most of you guys I thought were seasoned enthusiasts and understood this concept and didn't need links to show this.
And no it wasn't just metallurgy. A lot of guys told me to prove that the Z n fairlady were different in weight. I have been getting insulted over it all week. Then made fun of.
I didn't get the links cuz people were rude. N wen I asked for real enthusiasts. It wasn't to hurt peoples feelings. It was more to converse on a functional mod level than who has the best Z n crap like that. Or just dyno sheets. (Which are cool but need to be finished with some accel times. When my Z comes in. I will be more than happy to go to TMS n laser the ride to get u that info. But I would like to see others too
).A lot of senseless arguing lately.
Right now a new 7at and 6m thread for the hundreth time just popped up. N though I think the question dude is asking is legit. I bet sum1 will go in there and fu€k it up.
That whole metallurgy thing. Totally misconstrued. A lot of lil clicks in here. Independant minded or newbies or people that have less knowledge get ridiculed up in here.

My statement in the blog bout this forum goin down the tubes....
When I do a search of threads written b4 may. A lot of good stiuff. No chastizing. And people teaching. Now... its mock fest. Everyone is clicked up n lookin to find peoples weaknesses. Its stupid. We can all learn from each other. But that's not the goal here.
Racial comments like I don't speak guido, or dumb comments like slap whoever told u that in the face is extremely common and disrespectful. And it causes a$$hole rebuttals to cum from me. Which I shouldn't even waste my time but anyway.

Here's your proof. Nuff said.

Yeah there's slang in my writing. Yeah there's a couple typos. I ain't fixin sh1t. This how its stayin. N yeah I'm a fu€k1n sp1k. A puerto rican sp1k. But I'm a sp1k that keepz it gully 24/7 n fu€k wh@t any1 has 2 say. So no I'm no GUIDO! IF U GUNNA CALL ME OUT? DO IT RIGHT! GET IT RIGHT... that ones for joe d. Wit a bullet.

Do you even know what the word metallurgy means?
The reason some of ask for proof is because we have never heard of these claims, I am one of them, I love the Z and my father owned a few in the past but I have never heard of the JDM Z using aluminum reinforcements.
We make fun you people who come out and make posts like these:

Quote:

Originally Posted by chief_Roka
Where's ur link to substantiate the op is wrong cum wad?

Before May the boards are the exact same as they are today. The difference is we have to deal with more the same questions currently; when people could just quickly do a search and find the answer. The other issue is people who come in here to just troll we take the thread and turn it upside. Ever hear "do not feed the trolls," instead we have fun and enjoy the thread until the admin or moderates come in and lock/delete.

Quote:

I will be more than happy to go to TMS n laser the ride to get u that info.
What do you mean by laser? What is so special about this "level of measurement" which you keep saying we are need to do.

There is much more wrong with your post, but I am more than happy to let you reply and defend in a proper manner.

theDreamer 10-20-2009 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chief_Roka (Post 245639)
Ur all a bunch of idiots tryin to dissect and beat around the bush to be right. Ur just dumb asses!
EFF ALL A U! ON THIS THREAD!

Wow, and I took the time to give a nice well thought out post to show you that this board is above others and you prove my point in showing how low class you are. Either stop being a hypocrite and reply properly and take constructive criticism or leave.

rednek01 10-20-2009 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chief_Roka (Post 245630)

Yeah there's slang in my writing. Yeah there's a couple typos. I ain't fixin sh1t. This how its stayin. N yeah I'm a fu€k1n sp1k. A puerto rican sp1k. But I'm a sp1k that keepz it gully 24/7 n fu€k wh@t any1 has 2 say. So no I'm no GUIDO! IF U GUNNA CALL ME OUT? DO IT RIGHT! GET IT RIGHT... that ones for joe d. Wit a bullet.

Everybody put on your internet bullet proof vests he is shooting Wit a bullet!

E GANGSTER!

http://forum.codecall.net/attachment...uys-e-thug.jpg

FuszNissan 10-20-2009 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rednek01 (Post 245672)
Everybody put on your internet bullet proof vests he is shooting Wit a bullet!

E GANGSTER!

:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

theDreamer 10-20-2009 04:39 PM

http://www.lolgangsta.com/gangstas/icy-hot-stuntaz.jpg

rednek01 10-20-2009 04:39 PM

SO FULL OF WIN NOW! :happydance::icon18:

nogoodname 10-20-2009 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chief_Roka (Post 245044)
Nissan 350Z

Nissan Fairlady Z Specification- J's Garage Export - importing jdm cars and parts from Japan -


its very hard to find Z34 weight comparisons from jdm to US BUT was easy to show the difference on the z33. As a general theory that the japanese versions of this car is lighter is supported through seperate articles on each car.

One showing the fairlady to be around 1480kg = app. 3200 lbs which is shown in j garage.
And wiki search of the american car shows to be over 1600kg= app 3500lbs.
This supports what I stated about my friends fairlady being lighter than the 350z and also shows here a probability of this being possible with the Z34.

You wanted links. U got em.
As I stated my friends car was somewhere around 288lbs lighter. These 2 sights support what I said.


you are an idiot.... who cares if the JDM one is lighter.... less safety laws = lighter... get over it...

we North American need stiffer chassis cause 90% of us are obese while the Japanese are slim peeps..... :roflpuke2: worst reasoning ever :stirthepot:

also, the JDM one is left hand drive and you cannot import it here and register it anymore.... so get over that too....



or simply move to Japan, problem solved :tup:

phelan 10-20-2009 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nogoodname (Post 245695)
you are an idiot.... who cares if the JDM one is lighter.... less safety laws = lighter... get over it...

we North American need stiffer chassis cause 90% of us are obese while the Japanese are slim peeps..... :roflpuke2: worst reasoning ever :stirthepot:

also, the JDM one is left hand drive and you cannot import it here and register it anymore.... so get over that too....



or simply move to Japan, problem solved :tup:

:roflpuke2:

370Zsteve 10-20-2009 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phelan (Post 245699)
:roflpuke2:

Well the Japanese are a slim people...all the sushi..............:yum:

370Zsteve 10-20-2009 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedreamer (Post 245686)

omg +1

rednek01 10-20-2009 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 245703)
Well the Japanese are a slim people...all the sushi..............:yum:

now hold on I put away a lot of bait and I still am 20lbs over weight so its gotta be something else! Maybe I am not JDM enough so my reinforcements steel not aluminum :inoutroflpuke:


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