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Firebase99 02-18-2015 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3115453)
I say option 1 based on the engine itself. if we get a boosted V6 from factory it opens up more possibilities for power where slight tweaks or a tune can make the factor of not shedding weight irrelevant.

look at the tenability of a GT-R or BMW 335. couple breathers and a tune and you're gaining 100WHP most cases.

the problem with boost and the current Z is that we're boosting a factory N/A motor. usually never ends well. but a boosted factory motor would be nice to play with and help us in the long run.

if Nissan builds a block as solid as the GT-R's for the Z it'll have great potential.

Maybe youre right...I just imaging my old 370 with 70 more HP...sweet. But having a 3000 pound car with 332 HP certainly makes a good argument too.

theDreamer 02-18-2015 12:16 PM

I hear all new Nissan cars will only come with CVT, minus the GTR....:stirthepot:

Haboob 02-18-2015 12:21 PM

TT 400hp is enticing, but I think there'd have to be several other design changes to get me into another Z.

Maybe... and no price increase.

FPenvy 02-18-2015 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 3115466)
I hear all new Nissan cars will only come with CVT, minus the GTR....:stirthepot:

don't put those demons on us lol

theDreamer 02-18-2015 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3115478)
don't put those demons on us lol

:rofl2:
I think Nissan is smart enough not to do that, though I tend to agree that the auto will probably be pushed more next generation. The manual is good, but better tech, ease to drive, etc will turn the tide for people to just buy the auto. Heck, even one of my friends who is 100% manual guy got to take out a c7 with the 8 speed auto and came back saying he does not want to drive his manual vette anymore.

jwick 02-18-2015 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 3115466)
I hear all new Nissan cars will only come with CVT, minus the GTR....:stirthepot:

Yeah cuz there are no issues with the transmission in the Rogue:rofl2:

FPenvy 02-18-2015 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 3115479)
:rofl2:
I think Nissan is smart enough not to do that, though I tend to agree that the auto will probably be pushed more next generation. The manual is good, but better tech, ease to drive, etc will turn the tide for people to just buy the auto. Heck, even one of my friends who is 100% manual guy got to take out a c7 with the 8 speed auto and came back saying he does not want to drive his manual vette anymore.

yea the advances in auto tech and refining it all is finally coming to cars other than the top Italian supercars.

as for Nissan look at every 15 nismo I've seen at the shows or press release kinda thing is always the 7AT tech with nav. they are pushing the new features hard for it.

jwick 02-18-2015 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3115453)
the problem with boost and the current Z is that we're boosting a factory N/A motor. usually never ends well. but a boosted factory motor would be nice to play with and help us in the long run.

Nissan has provided a pretty good NA platform to boost with this HR motor. Plenty of guys pushing over twice the factory rating. The key is proper tuning.

FPenvy 02-18-2015 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3115483)
Nissan has provided a pretty good NA platform to boost with this HR motor. Plenty of guys pushing over twice the factory rating. The key is proper tuning.

yea with e85.

none of those builds would hold 600 stock block as solid without it. tuning is a huge factor but on pump gas I don't think it would be the same.

jwick 02-18-2015 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3115484)
yea with e85.

none of those builds would hold 600 stock block as solid without it. tuning is a huge factor but on pump gas I don't think it would be the same.

Not true. Terrible was running 55Xish whp on 91 oct.

jwick 02-18-2015 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3115484)
yea with e85.

none of those builds would hold 600 stock block as solid without it. tuning is a huge factor but on pump gas I don't think it would be the same.

And E85 is not magic. At some point you are just dealing with stress from the pressure regardless if its running cooler.

carlitos_370z 02-18-2015 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3115484)
yea with e85.

none of those builds would hold 600 stock block as solid without it. tuning is a huge factor but on pump gas I don't think it would be the same.

Ill be more than happy if i install a TT kit in my Z and run 450 to 500 whp on pump gas... I think is more safety and very fun to drive :stirthepot:

FPenvy 02-18-2015 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3115487)
Not true. Terrible was running 55Xish whp on 91 oct.

oh I know :yum:

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3115489)
And E85 is not magic. At some point you are just dealing with stress from the pressure regardless if its running cooler.

yes but most people on pump typically are tuned to 550whp for safety reasons which i'm not mad at. that's a lot of power and from what I've seen a safe number for a stock block.

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Originally Posted by carlitos_370z (Post 3115498)
Ill be more than happy if i install a TT kit in my Z and run 450 to 500 whp on pump gas... I think is more safety and very fun to drive :stirthepot:

exactly. until you get froggy, build the block, and pump that boost up :driving:

carlitos_370z 02-18-2015 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3115511)
yes but most people on pump typically are tuned to 550whp for safety reasons which i'm not mad at. that's a lot of power and from what I've seen a safe number for a stock block.



exactly. until you get froggy, build the block, and pump that boost up :driving:

AMEN BRO!!! :tup:

edk370 02-18-2015 01:30 PM

Geez...I wouldn't even buy a 2015 GTR at $85K. If I was hellbent on getting a GTR I'd get the R32 GT-R. That's the classic one!


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