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Tigger 02-18-2015 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by driftomodachi (Post 3115334)
damn. I should start saving then. But i don't want an automatic transmission. Too boring

dct?

FPenvy 02-18-2015 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Tigger (Post 3115328)
So why again would you want a GTR? You wanna talk ugly... lol :stirthepot:

you shut your mouth! that's blasphemy.

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Originally Posted by Driftomodachi (Post 3115334)
Damn. I should start saving then. But I don't want an automatic transmission. Too boring

that's the argument I never really understand. the automatic in the Z is a lot of fun and the GT-R with a DCT is a dream.

think about it for a second. a MT is a pain in the ass for everyday driving.

the part where driving gets fun is pedal to the floor, on a track, on the dragon or twisties, etc....

balls out the AT is just as fun if not more than a MT. yes the MT diehards will argue the MT you have more control and feel blah blah blah.

it's all the same......just minus a pedal. either model you're control shifts, RPMs, which gear you want going in and out of corners. yes the AT you cant jump 4th to 2nd or 5th to 3rd or whatever needs to be done. but it's still fun and useful.

now no more MT v AT talk. I like this thread too much lol

:tiphat:

jwick 02-18-2015 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3115148)
yea if the power is 400 or more as speculated i'll have a hard time saying no. but the body will need to be good too. whats the point of having an ugly car? it's like those guys who dump all their money into a subie. yea you may have power but your car looks terrible lol :stirthepot:

And yet you drool over GT-Rs like you'd give your first born:rofl2:

FPenvy 02-18-2015 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3115364)
And yet you drool over GT-Rs like you'd give your first born:rofl2:

easy now lol

the GT-R is a thing of beauty in my eyes. :stirthepot:

jwick 02-18-2015 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3115366)
easy now lol

the GT-R is a thing of beauty in my eyes. :stirthepot:

These the same eyes that give you so much confidence???

Explains a lot:stirthepot:

jwick 02-18-2015 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3115366)
easy now lol

the GT-R is a thing of beauty in my eyes. :stirthepot:

Sorry...brought family into an argument with an Italian. Be gentle:rofl2:

FPenvy 02-18-2015 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3115367)
These the same eyes that give you so much confidence???

Explains a lot:stirthepot:

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3115369)
Sorry...brought family into an argument with an Italian. Be gentle:rofl2:

:bowrofl:

go get the lube and it wont be as rough :yum:

VABAM 02-18-2015 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3115373)
:bowrofl:

go get the lube and it wont be as rough :yum:

http://www.runemasterstudios.com/gra...es/popcorn.gif

jpkirk 02-18-2015 11:41 AM

You know, if the new Z has an AT that shifts a little faster ... And frankly, I like the idea of not having to move my hand from the wheel to the shifter every few seconds. At speed it is good to have your hands on the wheel. Used to be you could get shift kits to boost performance of auto transmissions. What's up with that?

I was on the fence when I got my Z. I decided the Syncro revmatch was sufficient automation for me. But, I was almost there.

mishuko 02-18-2015 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3115355)
you shut your mouth! that's blasphemy.



that's the argument I never really understand. the automatic in the Z is a lot of fun and the GT-R with a DCT is a dream.

think about it for a second. a MT is a pain in the ass for everyday driving.

the part where driving gets fun is pedal to the floor, on a track, on the dragon or twisties, etc....

balls out the AT is just as fun if not more than a MT. yes the MT diehards will argue the MT you have more control and feel blah blah blah.

it's all the same......just minus a pedal. either model you're control shifts, RPMs, which gear you want going in and out of corners. yes the AT you cant jump 4th to 2nd or 5th to 3rd or whatever needs to be done. but it's still fun and useful.

now no more MT v AT talk. I like this thread too much lol

:tiphat:

well to be fair older AT's were not as efficient and control was not the same. heck even in the 07 IS250/350 AT's the paddle control was sloppy. compared to 15' IS's which has so much better control.

i said this before but i can see in the next 5-10 years auto's being the norm and manuals will not exist in production anymore with how technology is coming along. power loss will be insignificant, shifts ARE faster (in newer auto's / entry level luxury lines), heck it's arguable it's safer as you're focusing on driving as opposed to shifting.

that being said i'm still glad i get to learn the MT skill.

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3115373)
:bowrofl:

go get the lube and it wont be as rough :yum:

:gtfo2: no lube or bust.

FPenvy 02-18-2015 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mishuko (Post 3115413)
well to be fair older AT's were not as efficient and control was not the same. heck even in the 07 IS250/350 AT's the paddle control was sloppy. compared to 15' IS's which has so much better control.

i said this before but i can see in the next 5-10 years auto's being the norm and manuals will not exist in production anymore with how technology is coming along. power loss will be insignificant, shifts ARE faster (in newer auto's / entry level luxury lines), heck it's arguable it's safer as you're focusing on driving as opposed to shifting.

that being said i'm still glad i get to learn the MT skill.



:gtfo2: no lube or bust.

yea I agree there have been some just god awful paddle shifted ATs in the past 5 years or so. most fall short but that makes me happy that the Z's is so good. test drove both the MT and AT when I was buying. tested 3 MTs and after my first AT test I was sold. Nissan got it right.

lets ho the next Z they hit another home run with the AT.

but I also agree with learning how to drive a stick is a good skill to have. the joke anymore is a stick is the worlds best anti-theft device lol

as for lube......blood is natures lube :yum:

jpkirk 02-18-2015 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3115424)

as for lube......blood is natures lube :yum:

:eek:

:icon14: really? :icon14:

Read T 02-18-2015 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Duc_Z09 (Post 3114130)
Hope it's true. Oh, and under 3000lbs would be nice too.

Would you rather the next gen be:

1) The same weight with 400hp
2) The same power with 400lbs less weight

Firebase99 02-18-2015 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Read T (Post 3115440)
Would you rather the next gen be:

1) The same weight with 400hp
2) The same power with 400lbs less weight

Oh man...good question. Probably 2. But it REALLY had to be 400 fewer pounds WITHOUT gas.

FPenvy 02-18-2015 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Read T (Post 3115440)
Would you rather the next gen be:

1) The same weight with 400hp
2) The same power with 400lbs less weight

I say option 1 based on the engine itself. if we get a boosted V6 from factory it opens up more possibilities for power where slight tweaks or a tune can make the factor of not shedding weight irrelevant.

look at the tenability of a GT-R or BMW 335. couple breathers and a tune and you're gaining 100WHP most cases.

the problem with boost and the current Z is that we're boosting a factory N/A motor. usually never ends well. but a boosted factory motor would be nice to play with and help us in the long run.

if Nissan builds a block as solid as the GT-R's for the Z it'll have great potential.


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