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Bryan 03-01-2012 01:20 PM

Any new info guys?

Joe@ZSpeed 03-01-2012 08:41 PM

Test fitted the last re-vamped piece, Still needs a few adjustments before I am satisfied.

Sorry, I am kind of picky and want things perfect ;)

theDreamer 03-01-2012 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe@ZSpeed (Post 1576491)
Test fitted the last re-vamped piece, Still needs a few adjustments before I am satisfied.

Sorry, I am kind of picky and want things perfect ;)

Good to know, just keep us updated.
Looking to order a Nismo front bumper soon and this piece is of course needed. :D

Also, any estimate on pricing yet?

fuct 03-02-2012 09:49 AM

tick tock...

Sharpie711 03-19-2012 09:22 PM

I was cruising around 110 mph today and lost a plastic piece from my under carriage and i think this was it...I heard it flapping around and as soon as i started to slow down i saw it flying in the wind in my rear view...

Joe@ZSpeed 03-19-2012 10:06 PM

Production pieces are in process of being made for the Nismo as of today !

The regular 370Z V2 and G37 V2 are in process also, Deeper, fits with Hotchkis sways and oil pan spacers.

takjak2 03-19-2012 10:44 PM

http://t.qkme.me/6jve.jpg

fuct 03-23-2012 03:47 PM

how do they look?

tjlazer 03-23-2012 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by fuct (Post 1617040)
how do they look?

see post #24

fuct 03-24-2012 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjlazer (Post 1617079)
see post #24

the final version.... dur

sixpax 03-24-2012 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuct (Post 1618072)
the final version.... dur

looks like you are fuct until someone posts a picture of the final version ...

Joe@ZSpeed 03-24-2012 08:38 PM

Here are a few pictures of the final version of the 2009-2012 Nismo 370Z under pan, There will be one change on the back side bottom which will increase the rigidity and also allow the use of oil pan spacers and deeper oil pans.

The outside fender pieces are mounted on the wrong side of the middle part in these pictures but will give you a good idea what they will look like.

I will get some pics of production pieces in the next few days and also get them on the website with pricing which is going to be in the $400 range.

We are also working on integrated brake ducting which is in the works right now.

Should have final pieces ready to ship in the next 3-4 days if all goes well.

http://photos.zspeedperformance.com/...dsize=1200x600

Picture below shows air duct to bring in cool air which will flow air across the oil pan and suction hot air out of the engine compartment and out the back of the shield for cooler under hood temps.

http://photos.zspeedperformance.com/...dsize=1200x481

http://photos.zspeedperformance.com/...dsize=1200x570

Outside fender liner pieces get mounted on top of the center section instead of below as pictured here.
http://photos.zspeedperformance.com/...dsize=1200x900

http://photos.zspeedperformance.com/...dsize=1200x564

Rusty 03-25-2012 06:54 AM

Nice. I'm interested in one with the brake ducts. Also, I have the AAM oil pan spacer. When I installed that. I had to cut off the one mounting boss on the frame for clearance. How you going about that issue?

Joe@ZSpeed 03-25-2012 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 1619374)
Nice. I'm interested in one with the brake ducts. Also, I have the AAM oil pan spacer. When I installed that. I had to cut off the one mounting boss on the frame for clearance. How you going about that issue?

I have never cut one off, I always just bend them out of the way then back after the spacer is installed.

I guess you could have a mount tacked back on so you can use all the mounting points.

sixpax 03-25-2012 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe@ZSpeed (Post 1618993)
Here are a few pictures of the final version of the 2009-2012 Nismo 370Z under pan, There will be one change on the back side bottom which will increase the rigidity and also allow the use of oil pan spacers and deeper oil pans.

The outside fender pieces are mounted on the wrong side of the middle part in these pictures but will give you a good idea what they will look like.

I will get some pics of production pieces in the next few days and also get them on the website with pricing which is going to be in the $400 range.

We are also working on integrated brake ducting which is in the works right now.

Should have final pieces ready to ship in the next 3-4 days if all goes well.

Picture below shows air duct to bring in cool air which will flow air across the oil pan and suction hot air out of the engine compartment and out the back of the shield for cooler under hood temps.

Look's awesome ! Thanks for sharing the recent pics. I am curious to see how the brake ducting is integrated. :tiphat:

Joe@ZSpeed 03-25-2012 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by sixpax (Post 1619419)
Look's awesome ! Thanks for sharing the recent pics. I am curious to see how the brake ducting is integrated. :tiphat:

I should add that the brake ducts will be an add-on for the shield, Not sure how long it will be before we do them.

quicksilverCC 03-26-2012 09:06 AM

Nice!

Nismo63 03-26-2012 09:19 AM

I had a problem with that part this weekend after I took the Z in for an Oil Change. The next day I was driving home from the store and heard this noise from under the car. I got out and it was hanging loose and hitting the ground. I got under the car and took it off before it came off on its own. Don't know if its worth putting back on or not? LOL

Nismo63 03-26-2012 09:21 AM

part 75895
 
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Originally Posted by Rooskey (Post 1498128)
According to the diagram has anyone lost part 75895 while driving at high speeds? Mine flew off and took out one of my 02 sensors a few months back. I was running about 140mph when I heard a loud noise from underneath. I never heard of this before on the forums so im hoping this was a rare occasion.


I had a problem with that part this weekend after I took the Z in for an Oil Change. The next day I was driving home from the store and heard this noise from under the car. I got out and it was hanging loose and hitting the ground. I got under the car and took it off before it came off on its own. Don't know if its worth putting back on or not? LOL

sixpax 03-26-2012 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe@ZSpeed (Post 1619452)
I should add that the brake ducts will be an add-on for the shield and it will be some time before these kits would be ready.

...I figured as much. :tup:

chops 03-30-2012 09:11 PM

http://www.robothobo.com/ddd/wp-cont...er-500x313.jpg

chops 03-30-2012 10:10 PM

oh by the way...how tensile is this aluminum? no point in swapping the stock one if its just as flimsy. thanks!

Joe@ZSpeed 03-31-2012 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by chops (Post 1631452)
oh by the way...how tensile is this aluminum? no point in swapping the stock one if its just as flimsy. thanks!

They are made of .063" thick Aluminum, Lightweight and strong, MUCH stronger than the plastic crap.

antfd3s 03-31-2012 05:24 PM

Part #75895 is useless. Mine was dragging on the ground while driving as well. Bought new push pins,glued the crap out of it and still comes loose from airflow. Clearly for me, thats a poorly engineered part to cover up a mistake when they molded our Nismos under tray. I say mistake because why create an air pocket for a part thats designed for aerodynamics? All it does is allow air to flow into that molded space and finally rip part #75895 off. Why not make it straight? Whats up with the bubble? Can anyone elaborate why nissan didn't this? Correct me if I'm wrong for example.
Looking at a Gt-Rs under carriage you won't find plastic pieces to patch up its oil drain cover. I know its not a gtr but still, why us Nismo owners gotta be treated like the step child? Were family!
For me, I eventually gave up on putting that plastic piece back on again and again. I also have my under tray zip tied from the air damage. Lol
So Joe@zspeed. Great job on your project brother. Make 1 extra... cause I want 1 to.:hello:

Joe@ZSpeed 04-01-2012 09:38 AM

Nismo shields are ready, Check website or Classifieds!

chops 04-01-2012 07:05 PM

sweet..now to save some money. however..how come the nismo version is so expensive? nearly double the price of the normal Z. just because nissan gouges us ALOT more for the nismo, why are you guys charging us so much? its not THAT much more metal

just a legitimate question..:icon14:

antfd3s 04-02-2012 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chops (Post 1634280)
sweet..now to save some money. however..how come the nismo version is so expensive? nearly double the price of the normal Z. just because nissan gouges us ALOT more for the nismo, why are you guys charging us so much? its not THAT much more metal

just a legitimate question..:icon14:

I agree. I'm in sticker shock right now. Give me more time to absorb.

Joe@ZSpeed 04-02-2012 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chops (Post 1634280)
sweet..now to save some money. however..how come the nismo version is so expensive? nearly double the price of the normal Z. just because nissan gouges us ALOT more for the nismo, why are you guys charging us so much? its not THAT much more metal

just a legitimate question..:icon14:


There is a ton of work in these pieces and nearly twice the material that is in any of our other shields let alone the 3 months I spent working on this.

Design time, Layout, Cad designer, Prototypes, Special tooling, This all adds up, I invested quite a bit into this limited piece run that I will probably not see a return on with the small numbers these are going to be.

These are actually priced a lot cheaper than they should be from a business stand point.

wind.zero 04-02-2012 01:41 PM

Everything with the word NISMO is going to cost more.

Given the R&D involved on the part of ZSpeed and the fact that there is a lot LESS opportunity to sell the NISMO versus the regular 370, I think the price is reasonable.

Plus it is a better and cheaper alternative to the OEM piece.

Limited Market = Higher Market Price

Supply and Demand Relationship

fuct 04-02-2012 03:54 PM

can we hear what R&D actually went into this part? did you drive with it on at least? how about any impacts? when plastic rips off the bottom of your car it dosnt do much damage. but if this part failed aluminum can get dangerous at high speeds.

im not saying its a bad product, just need to justify the price.

also how much more does it weigh than the factory plastic piece? meaning are the black plastic clips enough to hold up the addition weight?

Joe@ZSpeed 04-02-2012 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuct (Post 1635751)
can we hear what R&D actually went into this part? did you drive with it on at least? how about any impacts? when plastic rips off the bottom of your car it dosnt do much damage. but if this part failed aluminum can get dangerous at high speeds.

im not saying its a bad product, just need to justify the price.

also how much more does it weigh than the factory plastic piece? meaning are the black plastic clips enough to hold up the addition weight?

There are over 20 bolts holding this on the car, It ties into many different areas, It is not held on with just 3 clips. Nothing dangerous about it, Not like it's 1/4" plate aluminum.

Some specs on the aluminum we use
Tensile strength 33,000 PSI
Shear strength 20,000 PSI
Thermal Conductivity 960 BTU-in/hr
Elongation at break 18%

There is about a 4lb difference between stock and the ZSpeed pieces.

We have a local person with a prototype piece, he added the Nismo bumper to his base model and found that the stock plastic pan was over $1,400.00 so we hooked him up with ours. It has been on for quite awhile now with no issues.

Another member on here with a factory Nismo we wanted to use for test fitting to make sure it fit the same has had it for the last few weeks and had it installed down at Z1 motorsports. I'm sure he will chime in if he reads this.

I have had our original 370Z piece on my car for months, we have had them on 350Z's/G35's/300zx's for years now tested on the track at very high speeds and have saved more than one oil pan and likely engine in the process from track debris.

If you ram a curb with it obviously you will probably damage it but it is for Aero, not a battering ram.
If it gets damaged, you should fix it before it comes off.

We've used what we have learned on other shields to make this the best we could, Could we have done it cheaper? Probably, but I don't cut corners or use cheap materials to save a few bucks.


Hopefully this will help answer some of your questions.

antfd3s 04-02-2012 06:57 PM

Without a doubt the part is well designed from where we sit. Not taking anything away from its development. Im far from being a person with short arms and long pockets.
Fuct does make a point about the R&D. Knowing that the Nismos front end does sit lower and most of us arent stock height, on impact will the part hold up? Our oem plastic piece is expensive but did withstand impact pretty good. Minus the rectangle piece. lol
I dont think weight matters to me much. the heavier the gauge the better.
Titanium would be nice.

Joe@ZSpeed 04-02-2012 07:12 PM

This is the new 370Z V2 shield that has less mounting points than the Nismo. I am holding onto it between the mounting points in the weakest part of the shield.

I am not 150lbs either ;) Maybe I'll start doing my pull ups in the garage.....

http://photos.zspeedperformance.com/...rdsize=398x452

Sharpie711 04-02-2012 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe@ZSpeed (Post 1636117)
This is the new 370Z V2 shield that has less mounting points than the Nismo. I am holding onto it between the mounting points in the weakest part of the shield.

I am not 150lbs either ;) Maybe I'll start doing my pull ups in the garage.....

http://photos.zspeedperformance.com/...rdsize=398x452

I'm sold...

fuct 04-03-2012 08:46 AM

haha. nice write up. how limited are these in production?

Rusty 04-04-2012 11:33 PM

Joe, you still going to make one with the brake ducts?

Joe@ZSpeed 04-05-2012 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 1641165)
Joe, you still going to make one with the brake ducts?

Rusty, It will be awhile, I need to catch up on some other things ;)

Fuct, These are limited pieces. We'll see how it goes whether we make more or not.

Joe@ZSpeed 04-05-2012 10:33 PM

Powder Coated Black have arrived! (Very Limited QTY's)

http://www.zspeedperformance.com/images/177_0129.jpg

Rusty 04-05-2012 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 1641165)
Joe, you still going to make one with the brake ducts?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe@ZSpeed (Post 1641337)
Rusty, It will be awhile, I need to catch up on some other things ;)

Fuct, These are limited pieces. We'll see how it goes whether we make more or not.

I'll hold off for awhile on doing anything (buying) until you decide what you want to do. OK? :tiphat:

_ace_ 04-21-2012 04:55 PM

A $400ish price is very reasonable for this product--especially considering how small the market is for this part.

I'm an engineer and have been working about 5 years. On a support contract, my company's external billing rate for my labor is $120/hour, so 3 months of my (full) time on a contract would cost just over $60k. ZSpeed will have to sell 150+ of these to bring in that much gross revenue. What are there, <5000 nismos out there?

Making parts like this isn't very profitable, but it's really a benefit for our community. Thanks for making it Joe. I don't need one, but if I do in the future I'll be giving you guys a call.


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