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ZeeingAround 08-13-2011 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by OZshifter88 (Post 1225964)
Hello everyone just picked up a brand new 2011 Red Nismo couple weeks back, soo far love the car, really cant drive it enough.

Well I have a track weekend coming up in August at Roebling Road and I am very aware of the oil cooler being a requirement, just not sure as to which brand I should be looking at, was hoping too see what most of you guys use. And also what kind of price I should be looking at for the install. Thanks!

What about the break in period? Hope you get your car back on the road soon.

StinkyTuna 08-13-2011 04:44 PM

What size cooler did you guys get? And also did the nismo damper get in the way? Im debating whether to get 25row or 34row.

FL 4Motion 08-14-2011 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by StinkyTuna (Post 1260369)
What size cooler did you guys get? And also did the nismo damper get in the way? Im debating whether to get 25row or 34row.

see sig and no, just flip the damper 180 deg and there's NO issues. :tup:

Nikkolai 08-14-2011 08:37 PM

Do NOT, I repeat DO NOT use Aeroquip socketless lines. Freaking crap, one of my oil lines just popped out while I was on the freeway. I was not even pushing the car, just cruising home. Pisses me off because I did the install myself and I know darn well that the lines are installed correctly. The lines had well enough slack. Luckily, I was able to get a flatbed tow truck and was not too far from home. I shut off the car immediately as soon as I saw my oil light come on. So angry right now :mad:, had oil sprayed all over the passenger side of the car, freaking under cover body tray full of oil, everything was just a mess. Crazy though how everyone that was passing by was staring at the Z on the flatbed, lol.

Dustin@Z1 08-15-2011 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikkolai (Post 1261850)
Do NOT, I repeat DO NOT use Aeroquip socketless lines. Freaking crap, one of my oil lines just popped out while I was on the freeway. I was not even pushing the car, just cruising home. Pisses me off because I did the install myself and I know darn well that the lines are installed correctly. The lines had well enough slack. Luckily, I was able to get a flatbed tow truck and was not too far from home. I shut off the car immediately as soon as I saw my oil light come on. So angry right now :mad:, had oil sprayed all over the passenger side of the car, freaking under cover body tray full of oil, everything was just a mess. Crazy though how everyone that was passing by was staring at the Z on the flatbed, lol.

We have seen multiple failures with the Aeroquip socketless lines on the 370Z. The combinations of the high oil temps and the oil pressures are right near the manufacturers posted limits. I think the oil temp rating from Aeroquip is 300 degrees F while the pressure rating is around 250 psi. I think the combination of the line pressure and the sustained temperatures is what is the cause of the failures. There will be some engineered safety margins in place that should allow for higher fluid temps and pressures, but how much so, I am not sure.

I have been running -8 AN Socketless Lines on my Z32 for the past 2 years and have not had a single problem. I see marginal oil pressures and around 220F oil temps on the VG engine.

The product itself is great. But for some reason it is not advisable for this application.

torpedo2k 08-15-2011 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by StinkyTuna (Post 1260369)
What size cooler did you guys get? And also did the nismo damper get in the way? Im debating whether to get 25row or 34row.

Flipped the damper. Pics of my install here. GREAT quality kit and excellent customer service from Z1. No issues here.

http://www.the370z.com/nismo-370z/36...r-success.html

DJ_Tantoy 08-18-2011 05:47 AM

i have the hks one works greathttp://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._5515524_n.jpg

http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._1341126_a.jpg

roplusbee 08-18-2011 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ_Tantoy (Post 1267621)

Did you have that air guide custom made? Looks pretty pimp.

Deadman 08-18-2011 07:36 AM

Yea I like the guide, I may make something up like that !

DJ_Tantoy 08-19-2011 08:03 AM

it comes with the kit :)

chii370 08-21-2011 09:58 PM

I have the nismo cooler on my.... Nismo lol. Seemed appropriate and omg does it work, 34 row with steel braided tube as big around as a damn quarter.... Car used to run 200+ in guam normal stop and go city driving. Now its back in ohio and it actually runs a little cold. Highway temls at 70mph on a 90 degree day are about 150, ive beat the ever living hell out of it at the track and it barely touches 200 now. So i need, and recomend a plate. Oh, and it whines if that bothers u. Everyone bitches about the price but i can say from experience now that its that expensive for a reason.

chii370 08-21-2011 10:03 PM

Speaking of which, hate to double post but im not starting a thread for a related question. Where can i buy a thermal plate for the nismo motorsports kit? Anyone know? Will another companies fit it?

daisuke149 08-21-2011 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by chii370 (Post 1272980)
I have the nismo cooler on my.... Nismo lol. Seemed appropriate and omg does it work, 34 row with steel braided tube as big around as a damn quarter.... Car used to run 200+ in guam normal stop and go city driving. Now its back in ohio and it actually runs a little cold. Highway temls at 70mph on a 90 degree day are about 150, ive beat the ever living hell out of it at the track and it barely touches 200 now. So i need, and recomend a plate. Oh, and it whines if that bothers u. Everyone bitches about the price but i can say from experience now that its that expensive for a reason.

if you get the line sheaths from z1, and then place like rubber between where the lines are in contact with parts of the frame it shoudl whine less. Sinc emy lines were re routed i havnt noticed the whine at all


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Originally Posted by chii370 (Post 1272985)
Speaking of which, hate to double post but im not starting a thread for a related question. Where can i buy a thermal plate for the nismo motorsports kit? Anyone know? Will another companies fit it?

I believe z1 might have something to offer for that, pm dustin@z1

Deadman 08-22-2011 05:59 AM

Where in Ohio are you located ? Did you do the install ?

fuct 08-22-2011 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by chii370 (Post 1272980)
I have the nismo cooler on my.... Nismo lol. Seemed appropriate and omg does it work, 34 row with steel braided tube as big around as a damn quarter.... Car used to run 200+ in guam normal stop and go city driving. Now its back in ohio and it actually runs a little cold. Highway temls at 70mph on a 90 degree day are about 150, ive beat the ever living hell out of it at the track and it barely touches 200 now. So i need, and recomend a plate. Oh, and it whines if that bothers u. Everyone bitches about the price but i can say from experience now that its that expensive for a reason.

could you put me in the right direction of this "Nismo oil cooler"? the 350Z nismo one is the only one i can locate.

Dustin@Z1 08-22-2011 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by fuct (Post 1274017)
could you put me in the right direction of this "Nismo oil cooler"? the 350Z nismo one is the only one i can locate.

The TRUE NISMO 370Z Oil cooler is super expensive. I am assuming that he is referring to the Nissan Motorsports Kit. The TRUE Nismo oil cooler locates the oil cooler core in the driver side fender well and comes complete with ducts, a vented fender liner and all brackets, etc.

If I recall correctly, that kit was something like $1,200.00 USD.

The Nissan Motorsports Kit can be purchased from a few different vendors here on the370.com site. We offer it as an alternative to our Z1 Motorsports 370Z/G37 Oil Cooler:

Oil Cooler Kits offered @ Z1 Motorsports

fuct 08-22-2011 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dustin@Z1 (Post 1274178)
The TRUE NISMO 370Z Oil cooler is super expensive. I am assuming that he is referring to the Nissan Motorsports Kit. The TRUE Nismo oil cooler locates the oil cooler core in the driver side fender well and comes complete with ducts, a vented fender liner and all brackets, etc.

If I recall correctly, that kit was something like $1,200.00 USD.

The Nissan Motorsports Kit can be purchased from a few different vendors here on the370.com site. We offer it as an alternative to our Z1 Motorsports 370Z/G37 Oil Cooler:

Oil Cooler Kits offered @ Z1 Motorsports

ok, but where can i buy or at least see the TRUE 370Z NISMO OIL COOLER??? ive seen the ducting on the true 350 nismo cooler.

do you have pictures?

chii370 08-22-2011 11:43 PM

Jusy to clarify, thats the ONLY difference between the two kits. They both use the same 34 row setrab core, both located in the same spot, both use the same 1/2 inch braided steel tubing. And the motorsports version cost me 750. Its a part order number that was 21300-SS370. Just ask nissan.

If u ask them about the part they will play dumb because there system wont find it, but give em the number and it pops right up. Warning, this cooler is HUGE .... Easily half the size of the radiator, so u will need a thermal sandwich plate. Mine actually runs too cool at 150 max normal driving and its mid summer.

Dustin@Z1 08-23-2011 10:37 AM

Let me dig around this evening on my desktop...I visited the Omori Factory @ NISMO HQ in Japan last year and saw one of the Z Challenge 370Z's prepared by NISMO sitting in the garage. They had equipped the car with the prototype NISMO 370Z Diff Cooler and NISMO 370Z Oil Cooler. The Front fascia was on, but I think I got a few decent pictures of the fender liner and ducting.

Here is a link to the Omori Factory website covering the cooling system upgrades for the 350Z/370Z:
NISMO/Omori Factory Website

http://www.nismo.co.jp/omori_factory...img/z34_ec.jpg

Based on the YEN conversion to USD, that oil cooler kit is actually MUCH MORE expensive than I thought previously. 210,000 YEN ~ $2,200 USD (rough calculation)

chii370 08-23-2011 11:24 AM

Wow, thats the first i had seen one. I was talking to someone at nissan motorsports when i bought mine and he was quite adament on tge fact that they were identical besides the plastic fender liner thing...... I can plainly see from this picture that hes an idiot and has no idea wtf he was talking about. The entire kit is different, thats a different core "fittings are different" and it seems to come WITH a thermastatic sandwich plate included..... But 2k is too much, even with the piece of plastic and the plate. Go for the motorsports version and get a z1 plate and its pretty much more then what you need.

seungklee 08-23-2011 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by OZshifter88 (Post 1257559)
Soo i had the cooler for about a week and a half everything was good oil temps around 180. Was driving home tonight and I heard a weird noise, then my oil light came on and the car almost lost control. I quickly came to a stop and huge fumes of smoke started pouring out from the engine bay. I turned the car off and noticed oil everywhere on the road behind me, all over my wheels and all over the engine.. meanwhile oil was still pouring out all over the ground while the car was stopped. Going to have the car towed to the shop I had install it in the morning and figure out what the problem is.

Anyone have an idea what happend? Has anyone else had a problem like this with the Z1 Motorsports Oil cooler or any other oil coolers? Any help here would be great! thanks

I don't know about the smoke, but when I didn't tighten the fittings enough, the oil just started pouring out of the fittings and gushed everywhere all the way behind my radiator. It could be the fact that yours wasn't tight enough maybe? I still don't know what seems to be the issue with smoke and oil light coming on. Oh I did the install with help of a friend.

chii370 08-23-2011 08:47 PM

The smoke was probably from the oil spraying all over a scalding hot motor, and the light would come on if it sensed a HUGE decrease in both oil pressure and amount of oil. Sounds like u ruptured a line/fitting or "hope not" the core.

It wont hurt anything at all as long as the car was NOT run w/o oil and u shut it down right away, it will just be a bitch to clean up lol.

OZshifter88 08-24-2011 10:50 PM

Sorry that I havent been able to update this in a while. Just wanted to let everyone know of how the situation was handled. It turns out that a small pin that held the fitting in place was either missing or came out and because of that it resulted in one of the lines to come off. From what I understand the smoke I was seeing was due to oil getting on the manifold.

Big thanks to Z1 for sending me out a new fitting very quickly, I was able to have the car returned to me right before the Flat Out Motorsports event at Roebling Road last weekend! It was very hot out there, I would say the air temps were around 98, oil temps never got above 230!! :tup:

SPOHN 08-25-2011 05:36 AM

Who would of thunk it? I'll be checking mine from time to time now. And it's not a Z1 though to clarify. Glad it was smooth sailing for you regardless of the oil all over your motor.

Dustin@Z1 08-25-2011 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by OZshifter88 (Post 1279610)
Sorry that I havent been able to update this in a while. Just wanted to let everyone know of how the situation was handled. It turns out that a small pin that held the fitting in place was either missing or came out and because of that it resulted in one of the lines to come off. From what I understand the smoke I was seeing was due to oil getting on the manifold.

Big thanks to Z1 for sending me out a new fitting very quickly, I was able to have the car returned to me right before the Flat Out Motorsports event at Roebling Road last weekend! It was very hot out there, I would say the air temps were around 98, oil temps never got above 230!! :tup:

Excellent! I am glad to hear you were able to make it to the track. I know of a few others who went to that event as well. Did you see a Blue G37 at the event along with MIKE in the THEPOWDERCOATER.com Blacked out 370Z?

As I mentioned before, this type of failure was extremely odd. As with anything else in life...anything is possible. Those pins are pressed in and what allows for the swivel function of the fitting itself. We have inspected and verified all current lines on the shelf for both the 300zx, 350Z and 370Z oil cooler kits.

Any thoughts on coming up for the Nationals and doing that track event?

fuct 08-25-2011 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dustin@Z1 (Post 1275758)
Let me dig around this evening on my desktop...I visited the Omori Factory @ NISMO HQ in Japan last year and saw one of the Z Challenge 370Z's prepared by NISMO sitting in the garage. They had equipped the car with the prototype NISMO 370Z Diff Cooler and NISMO 370Z Oil Cooler. The Front fascia was on, but I think I got a few decent pictures of the fender liner and ducting.

Here is a link to the Omori Factory website covering the cooling system upgrades for the 350Z/370Z:
NISMO/Omori Factory Website

http://www.nismo.co.jp/omori_factory...img/z34_ec.jpg

Based on the YEN conversion to USD, that oil cooler kit is actually MUCH MORE expensive than I thought previously. 210,000 YEN ~ $2,200 USD (rough calculation)

ahhhhhh thank you!!!!!!!!!:tup:



$6500 for their entire car temperature fix..... interesting. come on you crafty americans, lets see what we can do to copy these items! :P

OZshifter88 08-25-2011 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dustin@Z1 (Post 1279888)
Excellent! I am glad to hear you were able to make it to the track. I know of a few others who went to that event as well. Did you see a Blue G37 at the event along with MIKE in the THEPOWDERCOATER.com Blacked out 370Z?

As I mentioned before, this type of failure was extremely odd. As with anything else in life...anything is possible. Those pins are pressed in and what allows for the swivel function of the fitting itself. We have inspected and verified all current lines on the shelf for both the 300zx, 350Z and 370Z oil cooler kits.

Any thoughts on coming up for the Nationals and doing that track event?

Yes both the blue G37 and the black 370 were there. Me and the G were in the same run group, pretty even match up.

I also got to take a ride along with the black z, he was in a different run group from me, he is an amazing driver, I think he was pushing low 1:20's in that thing!

As for Nationals I would like to attend but my works schedule for that week looks pretty full, I doubt I will be able make it :thumbsdown:

supunna_picta 08-25-2011 10:55 PM

damn, wish I had seen this thread a few hours ago. I just finished installing mine... would have checked the couplers.

Oh well, a test drive, road trip and track day in the next 2 weeks should prove it out.

Sorry to hear about the issue - even with an occasional glitch this is still a superior product imo and Z1 has excellent customer service!

Nikkolai 01-11-2012 08:22 AM

Back from the dead but is this really a Nismo oil cooler kit?

370Z Nismo Oil Cooler Kit

False alarm, the part number is the same as the Nissan Motorsports kit. But now I am not sure where they got that picture from.

Dustin@Z1 01-13-2012 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikkolai (Post 1485150)
Back from the dead but is this really a Nismo oil cooler kit?

370Z Nismo Oil Cooler Kit

False alarm, the part number is the same as the Nissan Motorsports kit. But now I am not sure where they got that picture from.

The buyers should be aware that the Nissan Motorsports Oil Cooler kits (as shown in the FB Nissan images) DO NOT come with the fiberglass ducts as that picture shows. The kit shown is definitly wrong, the kit they have shown is actually for the R32 Skylines. See attached link:

NISMO Japan Official Website

Nikkolai 01-14-2012 02:33 PM

I emailed them about it so I hope they do clear up to prevent future misunderstandings. I did see this kit but I am not sure how many rows it has and if it is sufficient for occasional track use. I like the setup because it does not require the Nismo damper to be flipped.

AAM Competition - Nissan GT-R, 370Z Turbo Performance Specialists

Dustin@Z1 01-14-2012 03:20 PM

The core they use is a Setrab 9 series 13 row. Setrab is the same company that us (Z1), Nissan Motorsports and GTM use in our kits and is widely known and used in both OEM and Racing applications.

There are a few disadvantages to that design if you plan on going Forced Induction in the future.

Flipping the dampner will not affect the performance on the Z in any way. The ONLY downside to doing this, aside from the cost of your time, is the fact that the NISMO/AUTECH label will be upside down. If you are worried about flipping the NISMO dampner, I hope you are aware that the AAM Oil Cooler kit requires you to drill into your factory front aluminum crash bar.

Nikkolai 01-15-2012 03:47 AM

Oh, I was just looking for alternatives. I have had an oil cooler that I installed myself and also needed to flip the damper. I took it off because I am still thinking about selling my car but still not fully committed in doing so. I did not know if there were per-existing holes in the crash bar though so I assumed that it was going to be drilled on.

bushman66 02-05-2012 05:05 PM

Wow...this thread is exactly why I will be adding an oil pressure gauge when I add my Z1 oil cooler...


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