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Trips 07-10-2015 04:58 AM

Does Nissan’s Nismo 370Z Live Up To Its GT-R Sibling?
 
https://www.yahoo.com/autos/s/does-n...200033507.html

eastwest2300 07-10-2015 06:30 AM

This guy doing this video is an idiot...I almost barfed when he said the VW & BMW was better --that is all.

GaleForce 07-10-2015 08:24 AM

Couldn't do a burn out. :icon14:

JARblue 07-10-2015 08:40 AM

That guy is fuckin douche. He states over and over that it is designed for the track and then proceeds to complain about road noise and doesn't say a word about the need for a real oil cooler. Also, no reasoning behind his negative claims - his brain bogs down and just says "it doesn't do it for me" or "it doesn't really have a soul" or some stupid $hit :shakes head:

Thanks for the laugh, Trips :bowrofl:

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Originally Posted by GaleForce (Post 3252656)
Couldn't do a burn out. :icon14:

:icon18: :wtf2:

JC-Nismo 07-10-2015 08:56 AM

I like my Nismo and although it's not my DD, I enjoy it a lot. I didn't buy it for the speed or power, I have a SRT8 for that, not for gas mileage, I have a SmartCar for that. Simply saying, I like the car for what it is, not what it should be or I would've spent my hard earned money elsewhere. I've said many times before that the last true Z was the 91 300 ZX TWIN TURBO and felt that these cars are not competitive with the cars they've once been compared with. Back then we were racing these cars against M3's, M5's, 911's, Corvettes, Ferraris, Supras, NSX's, Mustangs and Camaros in which have all excelled to new heights. The mini me cars that it's compared to now is an insult to the history and heritage of the car in my opinion. I like the car for what it is, but it's just not what it used to be. It gained 50 hp in 20 years............... Wow!!!

Array 07-10-2015 11:12 AM

lol Yahoo articles, I've noticed they are quiet bias and prefer American muscle on almost all there auto articles.. however some points he made may have some validity its still a tough sell..

TerribleONE 07-10-2015 11:19 AM

:facepalm:

Spooler 07-10-2015 02:02 PM

It isn't even driving a manual. He's got an automatic Nismo....LOL

Chuck33079 07-10-2015 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Array (Post 3252935)
Yahoo

There's your problem right there.

CoralZ 07-10-2015 07:48 PM

+1

How many times can this moron contradict himself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3252685)
That guy is fuckin douche. He states over and over that it is designed for the track and then proceeds to complain about road noise and doesn't say a word about the need for a real oil cooler. Also, no reasoning behind his negative claims - his brain bogs down and just says "it doesn't do it for me" or "it doesn't really have a soul" or some stupid $hit :shakes head:

Thanks for the laugh, Trips :bowrofl:



:icon18: :wtf2:


RonRizz 07-11-2015 03:05 AM

All I can say is.......Brilliant! lol My favorite quote "the 275's keep the car planted. So well, in fact that you cant even do a burn out" Well, that just seals the deal for me. First thing I do when test driving my potential cars is a burn out. No burn out, no sale.

Z_ealot 07-11-2015 09:37 AM

i especially like how he says the Z relies on technology to control the car, yet the only thing it has in the way of technological driver aids is the synchro rev match and VDC, both of which can be turned off lmao

nomodsjk 07-11-2015 10:25 AM

He's a douche bag for saying "neesmo"

Hotrodz 07-11-2015 10:59 AM

This dude gives Posers a bad name....

Jinx101 07-11-2015 11:14 AM

I can agree that it's definitely time for a little more HP. Nismo Z are falling behind in that area. As far as driving experience though...this ninny needs to stop talking and apply some right foot.

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NeverBoneStck 07-11-2015 11:37 AM

He does make a point about the engine. Old and time for a new one..

Anifaust 07-11-2015 03:42 PM

I see the emblems...I see the seats...then I see auto w/nav...wait wut? Since when?

*Edit- ahh 2015. I guess they got tired of the requests.

TriNismo 07-11-2015 07:47 PM

I lost a few brain cells watching that.
Test driving a track car by going..50 miles. an. hour. Okay...

Hotrodz 07-11-2015 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by NeverBoneStck (Post 3253911)
He does make a point about the engine. Old and time for a new one..

There is nothing wrong with the engine, some are making over 600whp on the stock engine and internals. The issue is we all want more power, but I'm not quite sure how many potential buyers or folks that currently own a Z would be able or willing to pay for it!!! It really is a niche sports car and there is nothing else out there that is truly in its class.

jordyking 07-12-2015 05:52 AM

since were on the subject..reminded me of this..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7HlGVx6GLw

and

burnout on a "neesmo?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWGp13d4-jc

SilverFox006 07-12-2015 08:08 AM

He calls the car brilliant 10x (he's kinda slow and has a limited vocabulary), but dude aays nothing new, that we havent heard before knocking the Z regarding price relative to 'peers', and the outdated motor.

These autobloggers are used to driving high end, luxurt sports cars that cost twice as much w/400-500+ hp so of course a 40k Z aint gonna stack up... (shakes head)....

STICK_SHIFT 07-12-2015 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3254170)
The issue is we all want more power, but I'm not quite sure how many potential buyers or folks that currently own a Z would be able or willing to pay for it!!!

I think people feel like they are already paying for more power, but aren't getting it.

A Nismo costs 40% more than a base 370Z but only has 5% more horsepower.

jordyking 07-12-2015 06:23 PM

he has some valid points...but is there a better rwd front engine jdm sports car in this price range? (and if there is let me know) Ive read/watched a ton of reviews on the 370z nismo and people should learn to enjoy it for what it is, and not compare it to cars that are not in its category

Hotrodz 07-12-2015 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by STICK_SHIFT (Post 3254606)
I think people feel like they are already paying for more power, but aren't getting it.

A Nismo costs 40% more than a base 370Z but only has 5% more horsepower.

The cost of the Nismo is fair enough and this has been debated to death. I challenge you to name a two seater sports car with a body kit, suspension and horsepower at the same price point! There are none and if you want more power for the same price then you can buy a Mustang like a whole lot of other people. I'm knocking the Mustang, it's just not a Nismo!!!!

STICK_SHIFT 07-12-2015 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jordyking (Post 3254798)
...is there a better rwd front engine jdm sports car in this price range?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3254827)
I challenge you to name a two seater sports car with a body kit, suspension and horsepower at the same price point!

How about a a German, RWD, 2+2, with an (underrated) 320 HP?

http://image.motortrend.com/f/roadte...e-quarters.jpg


The issue for me, I think, is that the base 370Z represents absolutely awesome value for the money. The Nismo just doesn't.

Does that make the Nismo a bad car? Not at all. But I can definitely see why many people consider it too expensive for what it is, especially when there are some other very impressive performance cars in the same price range.

Spooler 07-12-2015 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STICK_SHIFT (Post 3254914)
How about a a German, RWD, 2+2, with an (underrated) 320 HP?

http://image.motortrend.com/f/roadte...e-quarters.jpg


The issue for me, I think, is that the base 370Z represents absolutely awesome value for the money. The Nismo just doesn't.

Does that make the Nismo a bad car? Not at all. But I can definitely see why many people consider it too expensive for what it is, especially when there are some other very impressive performance cars in the same price range.

I will say this. For a body kit, it can't get much better. For the suspension, it is more than most folks can put on it's limits. In other words, it is more car than most drivers can handle. The new Mustang Shelby 350r is awesome, not knocking that car at all. Those aren't for the masses anyway. But the everyday Mustang driver can't drive worth a crap anyway, so what difference does it make.

Dcocci 07-12-2015 10:57 PM

The Nismo is very simple. If you like it, you'll buy it, and if you don't like it, you'll find a reason not to buy it. Its a very niche car. The fact of the matter is not many people will cross shop a m235 and a nismo, or a GT stang and a Nismo, Sti, EVO and so on. They are all niche cars and you pretty much know you want it before you set foot in a dealer. The new Z is a beauty, and it doesn't need much else from the factory. Maybe less weight. People hate on the Z in general because it's a car that does nothing great, but everything good.

jordyking 07-13-2015 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dcocci (Post 3254921)
The Nismo is very simple. If you like it, you'll buy it, and if you don't like it, you'll find a reason not to buy it. Its a very niche car. The fact of the matter is not many people will cross shop a m235 and a nismo, or a GT stang and a Nismo, Sti, EVO and so on. They are all niche cars and you pretty much know you want it before you set foot in a dealer. The new Z is a beauty, and it doesn't need much else from the factory. Maybe less weight. People hate on the Z in general because it's a car that does nothing great, but everything good.

well said brotha

carlitos_370z 07-13-2015 06:57 AM

cant wait to hear that piece of sh#$%$ hahaha!! save the video on my watch later list of youtube :p

beachbomb 07-13-2015 09:23 AM

What a douche this guy is!! Driving the car like a Grandma with a family grocery getter behind wanting to pass him!!! LOL!!! At one point he says he is going REALLY FAST but then says he is doing 50mph..again..LOL!!! If he drove it like it's suppose to be drove, maybe he will get the real feel of it!!!
NEESMO......again....LOL!!!!

Uxi 07-13-2015 12:19 PM

All the NISMO needs is the tech package as standard to take care of the value argument, which is very relative for what you get as it is. Could make a good argument for a mechanical or at least helical limited slip, if not a better intake system to match the exhaust, but not bad at all.

Going forward would be nice to have at least the NISMO Z, if not the Z35 share development as a de-tuned NA RWD 2-seat version of the R36.

STICK_SHIFT 07-13-2015 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uxi (Post 3255386)
All the NISMO needs is the tech package as standard to take care of the value argument, which is very relative for what you get as it is.

That would certainly help. Charging $3,500 for basically Nav and a backup cam is kind of crazy.

DynamicT 08-24-2015 04:08 PM

Similar debate on the UK forum. If you look at the cost of other brands "track" versions of their 2 seater / sports coupes then in percentage terms what you get with the Nismo package is actually pretty good (note; not including the GM/Ford cars we don't get across the pond). The mark-up on M3, RS, AMG, Honda R models in percentage terms over base models is huge.

DT

STICK_SHIFT 08-28-2015 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DynamicT (Post 3292876)
Similar debate on the UK forum. If you look at the cost of other brands "track" versions of their 2 seater / sports coupes then in percentage terms what you get with the Nismo package is actually pretty good (note; not including the GM/Ford cars we don't get across the pond). The mark-up on M3, RS, AMG, Honda R models in percentage terms over base models is huge.

DT

But BMW, Mercedes, and Audi almost always give you a *substantially* upgraded engine when you step up to their top-tier model. That's not the case with the Nismo Z.

DynamicT 08-28-2015 10:27 AM

Much easier when the base engine is turbocharged...

TerribleONE 08-28-2015 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STICK_SHIFT (Post 3295851)
But BMW, Mercedes, and Audi almost always give you a *substantially* upgraded engine when you step up to their top-tier model. That's not the case with the Nismo Z.

The price is also substantially higher as well

1cleanZ 08-28-2015 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STICK_SHIFT (Post 3295851)
But BMW, Mercedes, and Audi almost always give you a *substantially* upgraded engine when you step up to their top-tier model. That's not the case with the Nismo Z.

I'll take my Nismo with FI TT anyday vs my teammates GTR, M3, M4, S4 or AMG.

WITH the TT, still pay anywhere from 20-70k less and have a car that both performs and handles better then all three. Not to mention, the z is a "driver's car", vs all that computer assisting bs that I can't stand.

roplusbee 08-29-2015 11:51 AM

I just want to know two things:

1. Where did they find that guy?
2. Where is he getting his facts?

I agree with 1cleanZ. I will take the Z all day (twin turbo of course) and decimate all others. Oh yeah, and I like the mechanical behavior of the Z. I just wish I could disable more of the electronics without having too many issues, lol.

Spstone 08-29-2015 08:07 PM

If I heard brilliant 1 more time I was going to vomit. That being said it's funny to me that he rags on the age of the motor when the LS7 has been around longer. Also the Z28 he kept referring too is almost twice the money when fully loaded as a NISMO. I drove a similar priced Camaro to the NISMO and it just felt bulky and kind of sluggish compared to my Z. I considered a STR8 challenger, but at the end of the day it looked like any other challenger, had a lower weight to HP ratio than the Z, and didn't feel like a track car. I also stole mine for 35K new so I didn't have to pay the NISMO mark up every one complains about. Just my 2 pennies

DynamicT 08-30-2015 02:32 AM

I agree...but....let's admit that their V8 rumble does sound better than the VQ37 (speaking as a Nismo owner).


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